Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 In a message dated 99-03-09 22:49:33 EST, you write: << Subj: Re: Can anyone answer this? Date: 99-03-09 22:49:33 EST From: mnass@... (Meryl Nass) Reply-to: onelist onelist From: Meryl Nass <mnass@...> There was debate on this issue in the GW community about 6 months ago. Jim Tuite or Sen. Byrd's office may be able to clear up what finally happened to the bill at the conclusion of the last session. Or call your Congressperson's office for further information. Rob & Traci York wrote: > > From: Rob & Traci York <robertyork@...> > > Gretchen: > > There was a man who posted not too long ago on this particular bill. (I cant > locate the post). And no, it has not been passed. This CFR is still in > effect - 21 CFR 50.23. If you need me to forward this CFR, let me know. > > Traci... >> The bill did not pass It got 213 cosponsors not enough to go forward I was directly involved in the lobby effort.....the point of the matter comes down to the President taking ultimate responsibility and therefore all the way down. Which wasnt done in Gulf WAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 There was debate on this issue in the GW community about 6 months ago. Jim Tuite or Sen. Byrd's office may be able to clear up what finally happened to the bill at the conclusion of the last session. Or call your Congressperson's office for further information. Rob & Traci York wrote: > > From: Rob & Traci York <robertyork@...> > > Gretchen: > > There was a man who posted not too long ago on this particular bill. (I cant > locate the post). And no, it has not been passed. This CFR is still in > effect - 21 CFR 50.23. If you need me to forward this CFR, let me know. > > Traci... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 There was debate on this issue in the GW community about 6 months ago. Jim Tuite or Sen. Byrd's office may be able to clear up what finally happened to the bill at the conclusion of the last session. Or call your Congressperson's office for further information. Rob & Traci York wrote: > > From: Rob & Traci York <robertyork@...> > > Gretchen: > > There was a man who posted not too long ago on this particular bill. (I cant > locate the post). And no, it has not been passed. This CFR is still in > effect - 21 CFR 50.23. If you need me to forward this CFR, let me know. > > Traci... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 Gretchen: There was a man who posted not too long ago on this particular bill. (I cant locate the post). And no, it has not been passed. This CFR is still in effect - 21 CFR 50.23. If you need me to forward this CFR, let me know. Traci... anna nim wrote: > From: anna nim <anna_nim@...> > > To the list: > > I just got this e-mail below, does anyone have information on the bill > introduced in 1998 that she refers to? Was it passed, what happened to > it? Where we can find out for sure. > > Gretchen > > " ...................I have been looking up info > on anthrax and this vaccine since I first heard it was manditory. I did > not want to find any negative reports, I just wanted someone to tell me > that my that it was safe. However, I have not found one piece of > information, outside the DoD, that supports the use of this vaccine. > When you recieved my e-mail I was in the process of trying to locate > just one veterinarian who has either heard of this or taken it. I have > come to believe that none can be found. I will be refusing the vaccine. > > I have begun to check out your website and was hoping to find some > information on a bill I found that was introduced to the House of > Representatives in 1998. Its called the " Drug and Informed Consent > Armed Forces Protection Act of 1998 " It would amend the Federal Food, > Drug and Cosmetic Act to require presidential concurrence in any DOD > request for a waiver of informed consent in connection with the > administration of an investigational or experimental drug to members of > the armed forces. It would also require that the DoD provide detailed, > written information about investigational or experimental drugs to the > U.S. forces before being administered. Thats it, thats all the info > that I can find on this bill. I would like to find out if it was passed > into law and if so did the president sign our rights away? Any > information you could find would be appriciated. And thank you again > for showing me that I am not alone! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 If I am not mistaken, did not our illustrious president declare this policy of anthrax vaccinations had his blessing? If so, this bill even if passed would already have his signature in place. And if he does indeed not have any real respect for the military, would it mean anything to him if we were made guinea pigs? By the time public outcries begin he will have finished his term or b very near the end of it. Dave Can anyone answer this? From: anna nim <anna_nim@...> To the list: I just got this e-mail below, does anyone have information on the bill introduced in 1998 that she refers to? Was it passed, what happened to it? Where we can find out for sure. Gretchen " ...................I have been looking up info on anthrax and this vaccine since I first heard it was manditory. I did not want to find any negative reports, I just wanted someone to tell me that my that it was safe. However, I have not found one piece of information, outside the DoD, that supports the use of this vaccine. When you recieved my e-mail I was in the process of trying to locate just one veterinarian who has either heard of this or taken it. I have come to believe that none can be found. I will be refusing the vaccine. I have begun to check out your website and was hoping to find some information on a bill I found that was introduced to the House of Representatives in 1998. Its called the " Drug and Informed Consent Armed Forces Protection Act of 1998 " It would amend the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act to require presidential concurrence in any DOD request for a waiver of informed consent in connection with the administration of an investigational or experimental drug to members of the armed forces. It would also require that the DoD provide detailed, written information about investigational or experimental drugs to the U.S. forces before being administered. Thats it, thats all the info that I can find on this bill. I would like to find out if it was passed into law and if so did the president sign our rights away? Any information you could find would be appriciated. And thank you again for showing me that I am not alone! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 1999 Report Share Posted March 9, 1999 RE: the unpassed " Drug and Informed Consent Armed Forces Protection Act of 1998 " The Pentagon does not consider the anthrax vaccine to by investigational, experimental or a new use, so they would argue the law wouldn't have covered it anyway. Dr. Nass, among others, differs with them on that. -- Rod Hafemeister Belleville (Ill.) News-Democrat Phone: 618-239-2563 Fax: 618-234-9597 Email: rodhafemeister@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 Somethign to do with the heart... [ ] Can Anyone answer this? Does anyone know what tests Myocardial AB, IF and Myocardial AB Titer are? And what they are indicative of? Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 I may be wrong, but aren't those the Cardiac enzymes tested to show if a MI has occurred? [ ] Can Anyone answer this? > > > Does anyone know what tests Myocardial AB, IF and Myocardial AB Titer are? > And what they are indicative of? > Thank You > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2003 Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 My mom posted this Friday (I think) and said she didn't get an answer yet. (Oh btw, my name is April, I'm Sandy's daughter.) I'll repost her questions, but I have one of my own first. Apparently they (the hosp) only do Remicade infusions at 8:00 AM. My mom is usually out of severe pain and ready to get her day started around 10'ish (still in mod pain). Now that she's on blood pressure pills she's been keeping track of her blood pressure at 8 AM & 8 PM. The morning b/p is only slightly lower (I'm thinking b/c she's still in a lot of pain...??), I'm talking maybe ten pts lower while the night b/p is way low! Tonight it was 113/I can't remember, but it's lower then last night's. I'm wondering if she needs the b/p meds at all (her high was 15-something... I need to start paying better attention!). The way it looks to me (and I couldn't SPELL 'rheumatoid' until mom was diagnosed!!) is that Prednisone is still in her system, mix that with still being in pain at 8 AM and being nervous (mom should've been born a wart--a WORRY-wart!) about the first infusion, of course her b/p would be high but the night b/p scares me. Of course I didn't tell her I was concerned, but can these pills be harmful? Do they take a certain amount of days to kick in completely? Will that night number keep going down? If the morning numbers stay high then maybe she won't be a candidate for Remicade. The nurses were trying to talk her out of the Remicade b/c it costs them so much money (she has dad's military insurance - they don't like to spend $$ but after 30 years of service, they can't complain!). Maybe they'll get their way now. I know she would be able to give herself the shots--she'd freak the first few times but she can do it with God's hands wrapped around hers! Are those the only other choices, self injected meds? Oh I can ask my mom. ~~I didn't mean to write a book, I'm sorry! Thank you all for being so sweet to my mom! She was always so healthy, I saw her sick once in '79 (Wow, I didn't know I remembered that!! hahahaha!) so all of this is foreign territory to her!~~ Thanks again! apey Oh, D'OH... here's her original post......... Good Morning! How long does the Prednisone stay in your system? I took my first bp pill today.... it's scary! My mind is going 2,000 different ways now. This hypertension isn't the start of heart disease is it.... I don't want to be paranoid, it's just that all the side effects of everything I've been on is running through my mind now. If I've been on Prednisone for a year, it's gotta take a while to get it out of my system, right? One more question, can you get RA in your back? I was told that I was loaded w/arthritis but they didn't say which type. I can't find anything in my books about RA in the back. Hope you all are doing well! God bless! Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2003 Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 I agree with a that your questions, Sandy and April, are difficult to answer. I would also advise asking Sandy's rheumatologist everything you asked us. It may be that you don't have hypertension after all, Sandy. As a mentioned, white-coat hypertension is fairly common. Too, blood pressure readings normally fluctuate during the day with the highest readings occurring early in the day. Even one's morning coffee can cause a modest BP elevation. As you've said, there is a strong possibility that being nervous about the infusion could have affected your BP also. From the American Iatrogenic Association, " Fear of doctor visit elevates blood pressure for some " : http://iatrogenic.org/fearhypertension.html Prednisone has a plasma half-life of approximately 18 to 36 minutes and a biologic half life of about 5 hours (see reference below), and, since you've been off of it for two weeks, it shouldn't be actively contributing to a hypertension problem; however, since you were on it about a year, the prednisone could have caused changes in your system that could be influencing your BP. If that's the case, hopefully, you'll fade back to normal soon. Prednisone is a potent hormone with many, many serious systemic effects. " Glucocorticoid Therapy and Adrenal Suppression " : http://www.endotext.org/adrenal/adrenal14/adrenal14.htm Was there any other time in the past that hypertension was an issue, Sandy? RA is thought to affect the cervical spine with greater frequency and severity than the lumbar spine, but both can and do occur. Osteoporosis and osteoarthritis are also diseases that can accompany RA and affect the spine. Prednisone can cause spinal fractures and osteoporosis, even within the first year of use. I would ask what specifically was discovered about your spine. [ ] Can anyone answer this? > > > My mom posted this Friday (I think) and said she didn't get an answer > yet. (Oh btw, my name is April, I'm Sandy's daughter.) I'll repost > her questions, but I have one of my own first. > > Apparently they (the hosp) only do Remicade infusions at 8:00 AM. My > mom is usually out of severe pain and ready to get her day started > around 10'ish (still in mod pain). Now that she's on blood pressure > pills she's been keeping track of her blood pressure at 8 AM & 8 PM. > The morning b/p is only slightly lower (I'm thinking b/c she's still > in a lot of pain...??), I'm talking maybe ten pts lower while the > night b/p is way low! Tonight it was 113/I can't remember, but it's > lower then last night's. I'm wondering if she needs the b/p meds at > all (her high was 15-something... I need to start paying better > attention!). The way it looks to me (and I couldn't > SPELL 'rheumatoid' until mom was diagnosed!!) is that Prednisone is > still in her system, mix that with still being in pain at 8 AM and > being nervous (mom should've been born a wart--a WORRY-wart!) about > the first infusion, of course her b/p would be high but the night b/p > scares me. Of course I didn't tell her I was concerned, but can > these pills be harmful? Do they take a certain amount of days to > kick in completely? Will that night number keep going down? If the > morning numbers stay high then maybe she won't be a candidate for > Remicade. The nurses were trying to talk her out of the Remicade b/c > it costs them so much money (she has dad's military insurance - they > don't like to spend $$ but after 30 years of service, they can't > complain!). Maybe they'll get their way now. I know she would be > able to give herself the shots--she'd freak the first few times but > she can do it with God's hands wrapped around hers! Are those the > only other choices, self injected meds? Oh I can ask my mom. > > ~~I didn't mean to write a book, I'm sorry! Thank you all for being > so sweet to my mom! She was always so healthy, I saw her sick once > in '79 (Wow, I didn't know I remembered that!! hahahaha!) so all of > this is foreign territory to her!~~ > > Thanks again! > apey > > Oh, D'OH... here's her original post......... > > Good Morning! How long does the Prednisone stay in your system? I > took my first bp pill today.... it's scary! My mind is going 2,000 > different ways now. This hypertension isn't the start of heart > disease is it.... I don't want to be paranoid, it's just that all the > side effects of everything I've been on is running through my mind > now. If I've been on Prednisone for a year, it's gotta take a while > to get it out of my system, right? One more question, can you get RA > in your back? I was told that I was loaded w/arthritis but they > didn't say which type. I can't find anything in my books about RA in > the back. > > Hope you all are doing well! > God bless! > Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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