Re: Some theory and Just wondering

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Hi Angie,

I know what you mean when you mention that many people using the supposedly best machine are still sick. But I think regardless of what protocol is used it takes a long time to get better and the best machines or methods are only revealed in the home stretch as the lesser machines stop working for folks and the better ones keep moving them forward with productive herxes and a reduction of symptoms. Because the doug coil doesn't render dead bugs any less toxic. So there really are no shortcuts as far as that goes. One must bust one bug at a time until their all gone. The real value of the doug coil is supposed to be revealed in the mid to end game when all other machines and abx quit working. I'm up to thirty minute treatments with the doug coil. My guess is that most other rife machines would give me only a mild to no herx at all at this point. So i'm happy to have it.

I also think when a person is really sick with lyme its very difficult to start making improvements. Most people don't devote sufficient time preping their body with detoxing but dive straight into killing bugs. I personally think this is rediculous but its the way most, if not all LLMD's recommend going about it. When somebody has a congested liver, colon, lymph, and weak kidneys, and dives straight into killing bugs, its no surprise they are in a stalemate with the disease. In that case the doug coil has nothing more to offer them than a hulda clark zapper. They simply cannot tolerate dieoff at any level and wont get better until they take a month or two off to strengthen those organs and systems they depend on for detoxing.

Of course you fall in to another category Angie, and i'm really sorry I don't have much to offer you. I know you will find a way though so please stay hopeful and never give up searching for your path to wellness. Also I should mention that once I got up to six minutes on 432 I was able to increase my rifing time by several minutes every treatment. You might find 20 or 30 minutes at 432 will give you a herx. Just never give up Angie.

Thane

Subject: Re: Just wonderingTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 7:25 AM

Thane,good to know you are doing better. I just continually feel sick and the sick feeling does not get worse after rifing, hence I believe I am not herxing. I am currently up to 6 Mins with 432. For now, I have decided to keep going in hopes that I am one of those that may improve without herxing. Just wanted to be sure that those that have used this for a long time really do improve, cos most of what I read on this and other boards are of people continually describing all sorts of sick symptoms even though they have been on the best rated machine. Maybe the kicker is that most of us on these boards now have not been on the Doug coil long enough. Maybe. Angie. > > > From: ivygirl345 <ivygirl345@ ...>> Subject:

Just wondering> To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 9:19 PM> > > > > > > How many people on this list have used the coil machine for up to a year or more, and how much would you say percentage wise that you have improved in that time?> > It seems to me that most on this list are still so sick despite usage of these devices. It is very discouraging to those of us just starting out. I know, I know it may be chucked down to herxing but frankly I do not think herxing is all of it. > > It seems to me that the Doug coil should not have been rated a 10/10 by the old group. 10/10 to me , means complete wellness and remission. I do not believe the coil

or any other protocol for that matter achieves that. > > What are my missing or where am I wrong?> > Thanks Angie.>