Re: Raw dairy and expectant mothers

[Guest guest]

I can speak from my personal experience of drinking plenty of raw milk through 8 going on 9 pregnancies. All healthy babies.

Colleen

[Guest guest]

This is all part of the knowledge you should have when purchasing raw milk

from any source. Too bad we can't scrutinize our other food purchases like

this!

But both cows and goats carry Q fever, which can cause abortions in pregnant

moms, listeria is a disease that if new and not able to spot this before

taking her off the milk string, can cause problems in pregnant moms, young

children with imature immune systems and the elderly....as are the other

lists of things in the goats/cows milk and enviornment.

Although my kids where raised (after breastfeeding) on raw goatsmilk, and I

sell milk, I would never go and purchase a cow/goat from an auction and

start milking her, letting my children (now grandbabies) consume the milk

raw. Most of us on lists like this have been milking these same goats, or

great great etc., grand kids of the goats now on our string.

Purchasing milk from the new folks who have popped up everywhere with the

surge of customers wanting raw products...purchasing form those who hand

milk (lets face it you not only have the health of the animal then, but the

person milking, and the milk is in the barn enviornment alot longer) milking

machines take the milk from the teat to the container, no hands, no

barn/milkroom, no belly hair

Visit the places you want to purchase milk from, clean, airy, are all your

questions answered? I couldn't imagine purchasing via the internet.....I

have seen some of these places selling milk This also includes Grade A

dairies, some of the filthiest places I have been are liscensed. Vicki

Vicki McGaugh

Lonesome Doe Nubians 1986

NUBIAN SOAPS, Goats Milk,

Soaps, Lotion, Soy Candles, etc..

North of Houston Texas

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

I completely agree with you about sale barn cows!

We started out with a herd of Alpine goats, then Alpine boer mix and

purchased all our goats from reputable breeders. By the time I sold the

herd, we were milking the 3rd generation.

When we started buying cows, money was tight, so we purchased a Jersey and

calf about to go to auction from a private party but she had been a nurse

cow. She had 2 dead quarters. The second Jersey we purchased pregnant under

the same circumstances. She died of e-coli mastitis after calving, and the

vet said she had had it before.I did not have health records on her becuase

she had been a nurse cow. Dairy cows are often used for this purpose in beef

country.

NOW we buy registered Jerseys with no record of mastitis, only cows that

have been used for milking, and are completely healthy. I would buy an

unregistered cow that I knew had been well cared for, and would not buy a

cow (registered or not) who had ever dealt with mastitis to the point of

being treated antibiotically. A cow with a slight case who responds well to

homeopathy or other natural treatments I would consider.

I did buy my cows over the internet, however. But I knew the breeder, had

spent time on the farm. When I got ready to buy, she just sent pictures of

the cows for sale and health histories so I could choose the ones I wanted.

It's been a great experience.

BTW, I have 10 children. About 1/2 of my pregnancies I drank our own raw

milk. Some of the children had goat's milk exclusively as early as 6 months

old. All the kids have been raised on raw.When we switched to raw my oldest

was 8. She was never able to drink milk till then, and even at 22 cannot

drink commercial milk w/o symptoms.

Tina in TX