Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 I stopped taking my Zocor about four weeks ago. A blood test showed my total cholesterol to be 213 about a week after that. I have been much less fatigued and have gotten interest back in doing some of the things I used to such as sewing and taking care of plants. However, I am frightened because when I was put on statin drugs about 12 years ago my cholesterol was well over 300. I am certain this will happen again because my high cholesterol seems to be inherited. Dieting with low fat consumption, etc. did almost nothing. Someone mentioned that statins do not prolong life. Does someone know where to find that study? I probably will have to go back on Zocor and again feel sick with strange bodily feelings as well as neuropathy. For the first time in years I have not had attacks every day, some times two or three times. I do still have painful back spasms which could be due to having a laminectomy about 14 years ago. I also suffer from osteoarthritis from an inherited condition in my ligaments. At least for the last few weeks I have felt better and have been enjoying life more than I have for at least several years. I just wish I could stay feeling better but do feel that if my cholesterol is so high, I will die of a heart attack sooner than is necessary. My father died that way at the age of 59. I am trying to help myself as I have started a weight loss program. Any other suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Hi:-) I will put in my 2 cents worth.......which isn't much:-) I will say, why not ask your doc about niacin.....or the new one Zetia? Both of those are NOT statins......they work differently. My hubby's came down from 312 to 212 in just 2 months.(on Niaspan) As far as where is it printed that the statins do not lengthen your age span......it is printed right in the paper that the pharmacist is supposed to enclose with the prescription. Go to your pharmacist and ask to read one. Actually, I think it said something like, the statistics prove you miight not die from heart disease as soon, , but from other causes, such as cancer, etc. Best thing is for you to read it yourself and decipher it. I know how it is like when a parent passes from heart disease young......and I understand your desire to break the pattern. Keep up with the weight thing.........try to exercise.......I know it is hard, I have those arthritic things going on also.....so for us maybe the weight loss is more important than ever. Now......where the heck is Ed?????? Anyone know??? He was real good about letting us know if he was going to be gone. Jill Stopped my Zocor > I stopped taking my Zocor about four weeks ago. A blood test showed > my total cholesterol to be 213 about a week after that. I have been > much less fatigued and have gotten interest back in doing some of the > things I used to such as sewing and taking care of plants. However, > I am frightened because when I was put on statin drugs about 12 years > ago my cholesterol was well over 300. I am certain this will happen > again because my high cholesterol seems to be inherited. Dieting > with low fat consumption, etc. did almost nothing. Someone mentioned > that statins do not prolong life. Does someone know where to find > that study? I probably will have to go back on Zocor and again feel > sick with strange bodily feelings as well as neuropathy. For the > first time in years I have not had attacks every day, some times two > or three times. I do still have painful back spasms which could be > due to having a laminectomy about 14 years ago. I also suffer from > osteoarthritis from an inherited condition in my ligaments. > > At least for the last few weeks I have felt better and have been > enjoying life more than I have for at least several years. I just > wish I could stay feeling better but do feel that if my cholesterol > is so high, I will die of a heart attack sooner than is necessary. > My father died that way at the age of 59. I am trying to help myself > as I have started a weight loss program. Any other suggestions? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Rubbish, get out and do your research. You talk a crock of shit. Don't tar the world with the same notion that we are all American buckets of lard. Outside of the states people do take care of themselves and they are still prescribed statins. We are also born with an imature brain. Some don't advance much do they. Longivity has been obtained by sanitation. A hundred and fifty years ago people expired aged fourty years and they were thin as sticks. Daft prat Mr Cog Re: Stopped my Zocor Cholesterol reduction is a false endpoint. There has never been any reliable study that proved that cholesterol reduction increases longevity. In fact, the opposite appears to be true particularly for older people. Moderately higher cholesterol increases longevity. You should read the book The Cholesterol Myths by Uffe Ravnskov, MD and stop worrying about cholesterol. Most importantly lose weight and get sufficient exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 ahhhhhhh but I figure most died then from diseases, not heart attacks. Far as I see, heart disease is a modern affliction........somewhere I read it was not prominent at all 50 years ago even. Where is ED??? Re: Stopped my Zocor Cholesterol reduction is a false endpoint. There has never been any reliable study that proved that cholesterol reduction increases longevity. In fact, the opposite appears to be true particularly for older people. Moderately higher cholesterol increases longevity. You should read the book The Cholesterol Myths by Uffe Ravnskov, MD and stop worrying about cholesterol. Most importantly lose weight and get sufficient exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 It's not just " one person " ; I've read a variety of people over a number of years, even before the statins, who are not convinced that dietary cholesterol, serum cholesterol and arterial cholesterol are related or correlated. It sounds logical, and the companies who make cholesterol drugs have really pushed the concept onto both doctors and the public. The joker in the deck is that most cholesterol in our bodies is made by our body itself, and there's gotta be a good reason (Was God stupid?) Linden " Matt " wrote: >... I am amazed at how one person with one book can be right and all the med associations around the world are wrong but this guy has the only single answer. it is amazing. > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Very well said! :-) Jill For every minute you are angry, you loose sixty seconds of happiness. -Ralph Waldo Emerson Re: Stopped my Zocor > > It's not just " one person " ; I've read a variety of people over a number of years, even before the statins, who are not convinced that dietary cholesterol, serum cholesterol and arterial cholesterol are related or correlated. It sounds logical, and the companies who make cholesterol drugs have really pushed the concept onto both doctors and the public. The joker in the deck is that most cholesterol in our bodies is made by our body itself, and there's gotta be a good reason (Was God stupid?) > Linden > > > > > " Matt " wrote: > > >... I am amazed at how one person with one book can be right and all the med associations around the world are wrong but this guy has the only single answer. it is amazing. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Switch to Netscape Internet Service. > As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register > > Netscape. Just the Net You Need. > > New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer > Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. > Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 I don't know the percentages, but before antibiotics, etc., people often died of other things before they got old enough for the greater number of heart problems to arise. Lets face it, statistically anyone who doesn't die of something that is identified as something else is tallied as heart failure. Soooo--if they ever reach the point of curing everything else, everybody will die of heart failure. Linden " Jillie " wrote: >ahhhhhhh but I figure most died then from diseases, not heart attacks. >Far as I see, heart disease is a modern affliction........somewhere I read it was not prominent at all 50 years ago even. >Where is ED??? > > Re: Stopped my Zocor > > > Cholesterol reduction is a false endpoint. There has never been any reliable study that proved that cholesterol reduction increases longevity. In fact, the opposite appears to be true particularly for older people. Moderately higher cholesterol increases longevity. You should read the book The Cholesterol Myths by Uffe Ravnskov, MD and stop worrying about cholesterol. Most importantly lose weight and get sufficient exercise. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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