Guest guest Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Been using my Bullworker X5 for several months now and noticed an all round improvement in tone and strength gains. However, I'm also doing other calisthenic exercises such as crunches, press-ups, plank, side plank etc and wanted to ask the group for their opinions..... Although I am doing standard crunches I find them BORING and, although seeing an improvement in my core, wondered if substituting crunches via my BW X5 would be a more interesting alternative. I currently do all of the wallchart exercices and consider the seated BW crunch (sitting, legs out straight with Bully between ankles and pulling down on ropes) an alternative to standard crunches, particularly if doing them in sets of either 10 or 20 (with or without a static hold at the end). Has anyone else tried this exercise as a substitute and if so how successful have you been in strengthening your core. My ultimate aim is a 6-pack and, although it is coming slowly, I realise that it will still take time, strict diet, strict hydration and strict routines to achieve what I'm after. Any comments gratefully received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Anything repetitive is boring. Suggestion is for you to stick with the ab crunches along will bullworker training. Also dont restrict your water intake but try some cardio to shed that flab. Spot jogging/ jumping jacks can also help. When I went for my six pack, I initially entirely relied on crunches and the bullworker. But things were just not happening. Then a pal suggested cardio and I gave it a try for a seven days period. The results were so good that I continued....and I got my six packs within three months. All the best, and happy training. --------------------------------- ABS Cruches with Bullworker X5 Been using my Bullworker X5 for several months now and noticed an all round improvement in tone and strength gains.However, I'm also doing other calisthenic exercises such as crunches, press-ups, plank, side plank etc and wanted to ask the group for their opinions.....Although I am doing standard crunches I find them BORING and, although seeing an improvement in my core, wondered if substituting crunches via my BW X5 would be a more interesting alternative.I currently do all of the wallchart exercices and consider the seated BW crunch (sitting, legs out straight with Bully between ankles and pulling down on ropes) an alternative to standard crunches, particularly if doing them in sets of either 10 or 20 (with or without a static hold at the end).Has anyone else tried this exercise as a substitute and if so how successful have you been in strengthening your core.My ultimate aim is a 6-pack and, although it is coming slowly, I realise that it will still take time, strict diet, strict hydration and strict routines to achieve what I'm after.Any comments gratefully received.-----------------------------------------------------------------Get your free Email ID at www.zapakmail.com now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 > > Although I am doing standard crunches I find them BORING > and, although seeing an improvement in my core, wondered > if substituting crunches via my BW X5 would be a more > interesting alternative. Any repetitive exercise can be boring, and I do the Bullworker equivalent of crunches seated on the floor and watching TV. Take a look at this web page: http://www.6secondabs.com/workout.html While it features a different gadget, I have adapted my X5G and 20-inch SB to perform these on the floor. I use the friction pad of the SB even when using the X5G. If, as in the exercise you mention, we do our ab exercises with arms extended, the weakest link would be the elbow, and the abs are not worked to the full. Doing BW ab exercises with arms flexed and holding the BW near the body will relieve pressure from the arms/elbows and hit the abs more directly. Try it in the exercise you're doing: Rest the BW between your thighs, hold the handles instead of the cables, and pull down with your abs (similar to " Basic Crunch " in the web page given above). You can even do this on a chair. As for " six-packs, " I got mine never doing any crunches. I got them with leg raises and modified Roman chair sit-ups, modified because I just use a chair, sit on edge, and have part of the seat supporting my lower back at full extension. Gym type Roman chairs have no support on the back at extension, have the force more on the thighs instead of the abs, and one can't extend as fully as I can with " my " version. Just some ideas. Gerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Thanks for your advice. I forgot to mention that I also row (rowing machine) 5K twice per week and also run with my Athletics Club twice a week for an hour's training each time so reckon I'm doing enough cardio! Just a little more time for the ABS maybe ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2007 Report Share Posted November 30, 2007 Thanks for your advice - will give it a go! I must admit to having the " 6-second Abs " machine before getting my BW and found it completely useless and it was not well made at all (mine broke within a couple of weeks). Bullworker much better quality and built to last. Using the Bully for the exercise may work though so I've got nothing to lose by trying. Thanks again! > > > > Although I am doing standard crunches I find them BORING > > and, although seeing an improvement in my core, wondered > > if substituting crunches via my BW X5 would be a more > > interesting alternative. > > Any repetitive exercise can be boring, and I do the Bullworker > equivalent of crunches seated on the floor and watching TV. > Take a look at this web page: > > http://www.6secondabs.com/workout.html > > While it features a different gadget, I have adapted my X5G > and 20-inch SB to perform these on the floor. I use the > friction pad of the SB even when using the X5G. > > If, as in the exercise you mention, we do our ab exercises > with arms extended, the weakest link would be the elbow, and > the abs are not worked to the full. Doing BW ab exercises with > arms flexed and holding the BW near the body will relieve > pressure from the arms/elbows and hit the abs more directly. > > Try it in the exercise you're doing: Rest the BW between your > thighs, hold the handles instead of the cables, and pull down > with your abs (similar to " Basic Crunch " in the web page given > above). You can even do this on a chair. > > As for " six-packs, " I got mine never doing any crunches. I got > them with leg raises and modified Roman chair sit-ups, modified > because I just use a chair, sit on edge, and have part of the > seat supporting my lower back at full extension. Gym type Roman > chairs have no support on the back at extension, have the force > more on the thighs instead of the abs, and one can't extend as > fully as I can with " my " version. > > Just some ideas. > > Gerry > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Hi , A few months ago I asked if anyone else believed in 'spot-reducing', but got no response. This leads me to the question 'why do crunches at all?' The standard BW isometrics can give us rock hard abs anyway. The BW2 manual states that during isotonic reps 'the fat molecules lying above the muscular system of the stomach are demolished'. That sounds like spot-reducing to me, and is the reason why I still do them (see msg 5251 if you're interested). I have found the BW manual to be right about everything else, so why not this? Sure they're boring, but if you're sitting on the setee watching TV anyway then why not? Comments appreciated... Fult. > > Thanks for your advice. > > I forgot to mention that I also row (rowing machine) 5K twice per week > and also run with my Athletics Club twice a week for an hour's training > each time so reckon I'm doing enough cardio! > > Just a little more time for the ABS maybe ............... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 My understanding is that most people agree that spot reduction is not possible to any significant (ie visible) degree. However, there are still plenty of people doing high rep ab exercises trying to reveal the six pack. Sensible resistance training with a reduced calorie diet and some interval training to boost the metabolism is the way forward! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Gentlemen, It is important to recognize the difference between spot-reduction and spot-muscle exercise. It is possible to target a select muscle group (abs, biceps, etc) as these muscles are independent of each other. One can have large biceps and a fat belly. Fat on the other hand is "generally" all connected. Like a retreating glacier, the fat will recede till it reaches its "starting point (abs) which is why it is so difficult to showcase. When most males begin to gain weight, it is the waist area that is the starting point. In reverse, when one is losing weight, it is the waist that is the last to show the desired result. There are not too many instances of fat thighs with a 6-pack. One can have underdeveloped thighs with a 6-pack, but not the combination of fat and a six-pack (visually speaking). One can possess developed abdominal muscles and still hide it under layers of fat. An excellent example is an football lineman that is "beefed-up" with bulk; appears overweight and is extremely strong in certain physical disciplines. Now the physiology of the female body has different rules, which is why one can see a flat stomach on a woman with large thighs. If in fact this means the starting point of fat accumulation for the female is the hips and thighs, then there is a different order of fat reduction for visual results. In both cases, the flat abdominal wall is at high risk of changing in appearance as the body begins to accumulate excess fat, even to the extent of developing a rock hard 6-pack underneath the fat layer. Speaking as the possessor of strong abdominal muscles hiding under the "protection" of my over-sized waistline, having these strong muscles increase the number of activities I can participate in. I just have to carry the extra weight in doing so. Keep exercising your abs... there is great benefit to it. But when you are ready for the six-pack... prepare yourself for either a large jump in your physical activity and/or a very structured nutritional intake. One last point, I have started a 25 lb reduction program which involves among other things, an exaggeration of the Bullworker breathing exercises, on the basis of extending my belly out in all of it glory to pulling it in as far as possible. This is repeated in 3 sets of 20 and a combination of the Endurance/Resilience training found in the BW2 training manual. The reasoning behind this is the concept that the extreme abdominal motion helps "demolish" the fat molecules by incorporating a full range of motion waist-wise that is not found in any other conventional waist exercise. I do this several times a day, as suggested in the manual. This is very easy to do and can be done literally anywhere in any position... just do not let anyone see you doing these as most of the "extruding" is rather shocking to an observer. First 30 days... 9 lbs and 1.5 inches off my waist. Bullworker johnfult wrote: Hi ,A few months ago I asked if anyone else believed in 'spot-reducing', but got no response. This leads me to the question 'why do crunches at all?'The standard BW isometrics can give us rock hard abs anyway.The BW2 manual states that during isotonic reps 'the fat molecules lying above the muscular system of the stomach are demolished'.That sounds like spot-reducing to me, and is the reason why I still do them (see msg 5251 if you're interested). I have found the BW manual to be right about everything else, so why not this?Sure they're boring, but if you're sitting on the setee watching TV anyway then why not?Comments appreciated...Fult.>> Thanks for your advice.> > I forgot to mention that I also row (rowing machine) 5K twice per week > and also run with my Athletics Club twice a week for an hour's training > each time so reckon I'm doing enough cardio!> > Just a little more time for the ABS maybe ...............> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 , Please forgive me for gloating, but I'm very happy with your reply. In fact, when my Daughter gets home I'm going to boast 'I got a reply from a Guy from Bullworker!' If I read you correctly, you not only believe in potental fat reduction in specific areas but are actively pursuing it - and it's working!. Please don't think that I've selectively read your Post - I read it all and appreciate your insight, advice and especially honesty in advising us to avoid onlookers... If spot fat reduction is not possible then it suggests that we may as well exersise our arms and legs to reduce our waist size (assuming that we already have the rock-hard abs that the BW isos give us and our diet and cardio work is right). This would no doubt come as a revelation to the millions of exercisers faithfully doing their sit-ups and crunches every day... Thanks, Fult. > > > > Thanks for your advice. > > > > I forgot to mention that I also row (rowing machine) 5K twice per > week > > and also run with my Athletics Club twice a week for an hour's > training > > each time so reckon I'm doing enough cardio! > > > > Just a little more time for the ABS maybe ............... > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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