Re: HELP ME!/Renae

[Guest guest]

Hi Renae,

The clothes that zip in back could be something to

look into. I bought the pads for the bed at a medical

supply store, that are full proof, but Jim removes the

top pad at times when I am not in the room, so he is

not laying on top of it. Usually the pee doesn't go

beyond the one that I have under the sheet protecting

the mattress, except that at one point Friday night he

must have gotten up off the bed and then when he got

on again he layed down the width of the bed diagonally

and was on my side of the bed where there is no

padding. I probably need some kind of a zip on

plastic mattress cover. He also wears a men's guard in

his diaper. In the day I have no problem with it, but

at night he pees all night and it goes through the

guard to the diaper and then he strips off his clothes

and throws the diaper on the floor or else it's kicked

down to the bottom of the bed. The clothes that zip

in back sound good as far as keeping him from taking

his clothes off, but may be awkward for me to get to

him to change him, especially when the toileting

issues cause him to be combative and he would never

let me near him to get the clothes unzipped to get the

wetness off of him. They could be good for when and if

visitors come or when he is staying in a facility, so

he is not buck naked walking out in the halls with his

walker. I know that would happen, it happened before

when I left him in a facility for respite. If they

don't get to him to change him on time, he will do it

himself. At least the part of removing the diaper and

clothes. Thank goodness the dementia units don't have

many small children visiting grandparents in them. The

funniest part is when I arrived home from my vacation

and went to pick Jim up the staff told me about it.

Jim talked to me about it on the way home, but he

spoke in the third person as if it were another man he

was talking about. It struck me funny. Jim uses the

third person alot when he speaks. He will say " he "

when he means himself or when he is talking to me

about something I did he will say " she " instead of

you. This is such an interesting disease in all

areas.

Thanks Renae for offering all these suggestions. Jan

--- Renae Quandt wrote:

>

> I will look for the Depression scale information

> that I mentioned. Happy to share it if others ask

> for it too. If I remember correctly, the print was

> small, so if it doesn't scan well, I may need to

> send it.

> Regarding your eventful night... a suggestion. My

> mother has had some waterproof mattress covers -

> both in the mattress pad form as well as the zip on

> allergy proof covers. I have seen some in the JC

> Penny catalog before as well as other catalogs. At

> least that may save the mattress from further

> damage, as well as limit the work you need to do if

> he does manage to get everything off.

> .

> About his undressing...Depending on how difficult

> he is, alternative clothing may be an option.

> There was a catalog called Buck & Buck that I often

> used when I worked at the nursing home for a variety

> of wheelchair bound needs for people, - especially

> items that opened in the back for ease of dressing.

> I haven't used them lately - probably in the past

> 5 years at least, but I do recall that they had a

> men's coverall type jumpsuit that was meant to be

> difficult to remove for people who liked to

> " disrobe " when they really should be clothed. I

> think that it opened in the backI never ordered the

> item, and perhaps they still carry it, Just a

> thought. I think they were based out of Washington

> state, but I do not remember for sure. I can try

> to look for the website and let you know if I find

> it, too. There were a number of accessible clothing

> catalogs around that we used.

>

> Also, my mother used some Boost pads - put out by

> Depends as additional absorbence inside the diaper

> for my Dad when he was prone to leakage - until

> the Lasix was out of his system, or if they were

> going out to the doctor, for example. Perhaps that

> can help a little at night as well, if he leaves

> everything on, I guess.

> Just for the fun of it - perhaps you will have a

> little laugh - I had to do four loads of laundry

> one night during harvest when my daughter had the

> flu. It wasn't funny at the time, but It makes

> other days pale in comparison when she is giving me

> a tough time!

> Hope today is better for you!

> Renae

>

>

>

> Janet Colello wrote:

> Hi Margee,

> I appreciate so much that you and all the bunch

> are

> here to let me (((SCREAM)))Sometimes you just have

> to

> get online and vent and let it all out to the

> only

> people who would understand and the distraction of

> typing also helped me to calm down.

> It seems lately that I get through one pile of

> sheets,

> blankets, clothes, bed padding and it starts all

> over

> again to strip the bed and remake it and do the

> pile

> of laundry. He has been taking his clothes off,

> but

> within the last few weeks, he is taking them off

> in

> the bed and removing the padding from under him

> and

> peeing on the bed. Usually it just goes as far as

> the

> padding under the sheet, but he must have stood up

> at

> one point and got back on the bed, because he was

> laying across the width of the bed diagonally and

> there is no padding on my side and it went through

> my

> side also to the mattress and that is when I lost

> it!

> I really sanitized it and sprayed it with Lysol,

> but

> then the mattress was too wet to put clean sheets

> on,

> so I took my hair blow dryer and stood there and

> blew

> it dry before putting the sheets and stuff back

> on. I

> just really wasn't in the mood, since I had only a

> few

> hours before folded all the sheets and got them

> away

> from the evening before. It got me at the wrong

> time

> and I really lost control of myself to the point I

> scared myself. I didn't think I was going to get a

> grip of myself and that I was losing it, until I

> got

> on to type and vent and it really helped to bring

> the

> rage down.

> I can't tell you how glad I am that you are

> here....Huge Hugs, Jan

>

>

>

>

> --- Margee wrote:

>

> > Oh, Jan,

> >

> > I hurt so much for you. I wish I could fly out

> to

> > California and help you. The best I can do is

> say

> > I'm here and I care. Sending you cyber hugs

> > ((((Jan)))

> >

> > Margee

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I found the website buckandbuck.com, and linked a couple of items to you from

their catalog. One was even for nightwear, and I didn't remember that one.

The one item did say that it was not for the aggressive undresser, and perhaps

Jim would fall into that classification. Anyway, maybe try one of them, to

see if he might like his brand new extra special outfit! Who knows? maybe it

would work.

This catalog, should anyone else be interested, is also good for a variety of

adaptive footwear for people with swollen feet, as well as any kind of adaptive

clothing for anyone who is wheelchair bound.

Renae

Janet Colello wrote: Hi Renae,

The clothes that zip in back could be something to

look into. I bought the pads for the bed at a medical

supply store, that are full proof, but Jim removes the

top pad at times when I am not in the room, so he is

not laying on top of it. Usually the pee doesn't go

beyond the one that I have under the sheet protecting

the mattress, except that at one point Friday night he

must have gotten up off the bed and then when he got

on again he layed down the width of the bed diagonally

and was on my side of the bed where there is no

padding. I probably need some kind of a zip on

plastic mattress cover. He also wears a men's guard in

his diaper. In the day I have no problem with it, but

at night he pees all night and it goes through the

guard to the diaper and then he strips off his clothes

and throws the diaper on the floor or else it's kicked

down to the bottom of the bed. The clothes that zip

in back sound good as far as keeping him from taking

his clothes off, but may be awkward for me to get to

him to change him, especially when the toileting

issues cause him to be combative and he would never

let me near him to get the clothes unzipped to get the

wetness off of him. They could be good for when and if

visitors come or when he is staying in a facility, so

he is not buck naked walking out in the halls with his

walker. I know that would happen, it happened before

when I left him in a facility for respite. If they

don't get to him to change him on time, he will do it

himself. At least the part of removing the diaper and

clothes. Thank goodness the dementia units don't have

many small children visiting grandparents in them. The

funniest part is when I arrived home from my vacation

and went to pick Jim up the staff told me about it.

Jim talked to me about it on the way home, but he

spoke in the third person as if it were another man he

was talking about. It struck me funny. Jim uses the

third person alot when he speaks. He will say " he "

when he means himself or when he is talking to me

about something I did he will say " she " instead of

you. This is such an interesting disease in all

areas.

Thanks Renae for offering all these suggestions. Jan

--- Renae Quandt wrote:

>

> I will look for the Depression scale information

> that I mentioned. Happy to share it if others ask

> for it too. If I remember correctly, the print was

> small, so if it doesn't scan well, I may need to

> send it.

> Regarding your eventful night... a suggestion. My

> mother has had some waterproof mattress covers -

> both in the mattress pad form as well as the zip on

> allergy proof covers. I have seen some in the JC

> Penny catalog before as well as other catalogs. At

> least that may save the mattress from further

> damage, as well as limit the work you need to do if

> he does manage to get everything off.

> .

> About his undressing...Depending on how difficult

> he is, alternative clothing may be an option.

> There was a catalog called Buck & Buck that I often

> used when I worked at the nursing home for a variety

> of wheelchair bound needs for people, - especially

> items that opened in the back for ease of dressing.

> I haven't used them lately - probably in the past

> 5 years at least, but I do recall that they had a

> men's coverall type jumpsuit that was meant to be

> difficult to remove for people who liked to

> " disrobe " when they really should be clothed. I

> think that it opened in the backI never ordered the

> item, and perhaps they still carry it, Just a

> thought. I think they were based out of Washington

> state, but I do not remember for sure. I can try

> to look for the website and let you know if I find

> it, too. There were a number of accessible clothing

> catalogs around that we used.

>

> Also, my mother used some Boost pads - put out by

> Depends as additional absorbence inside the diaper

> for my Dad when he was prone to leakage - until

> the Lasix was out of his system, or if they were

> going out to the doctor, for example. Perhaps that

> can help a little at night as well, if he leaves

> everything on, I guess.

> Just for the fun of it - perhaps you will have a

> little laugh - I had to do four loads of laundry

> one night during harvest when my daughter had the

> flu. It wasn't funny at the time, but It makes

> other days pale in comparison when she is giving me

> a tough time!

> Hope today is better for you!

> Renae

>

>

>

> Janet Colello wrote:

> Hi Margee,

> I appreciate so much that you and all the bunch

> are

> here to let me (((SCREAM)))Sometimes you just have

> to

> get online and vent and let it all out to the

> only

> people who would understand and the distraction of

> typing also helped me to calm down.

> It seems lately that I get through one pile of

> sheets,

> blankets, clothes, bed padding and it starts all

> over

> again to strip the bed and remake it and do the

> pile

> of laundry. He has been taking his clothes off,

> but

> within the last few weeks, he is taking them off

> in

> the bed and removing the padding from under him

> and

> peeing on the bed. Usually it just goes as far as

> the

> padding under the sheet, but he must have stood up

> at

> one point and got back on the bed, because he was

> laying across the width of the bed diagonally and

> there is no padding on my side and it went through

> my

> side also to the mattress and that is when I lost

> it!

> I really sanitized it and sprayed it with Lysol,

> but

> then the mattress was too wet to put clean sheets

> on,

> so I took my hair blow dryer and stood there and

> blew

> it dry before putting the sheets and stuff back

> on. I

> just really wasn't in the mood, since I had only a

> few

> hours before folded all the sheets and got them

> away

> from the evening before. It got me at the wrong

> time

> and I really lost control of myself to the point I

> scared myself. I didn't think I was going to get a

> grip of myself and that I was losing it, until I

> got

> on to type and vent and it really helped to bring

> the

> rage down.

> I can't tell you how glad I am that you are

> here....Huge Hugs, Jan

>

>

>

>

> --- Margee wrote:

>

> > Oh, Jan,

> >

> > I hurt so much for you. I wish I could fly out

> to

> > California and help you. The best I can do is

> say

> > I'm here and I care. Sending you cyber hugs

> > ((((Jan)))

> >

> > Margee

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>