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Hello Jan,

I was wondering how you were doing. I must tell you I went through a similar

experience with the Hospice choice too. My Unc's doctor said the same

thing...that " he wasn't 6 mos. off, " so he was not going to " bother " with

hospice.

So, I went to the TOP and called the Director of Hospice and she could tell

how stressed out and desperate I was, so she came and " assessed " my Unc at my

home herself. SHE called my Unc's doctor and TOLD HIM that we needed

Hospice's services in order for me to take proper care of my Uncle. You don't

have to

be in a " 6 months to die " situation before Hospice can help you. You just

need to basically agree that you want " comfort care " instead of a " cure " for

your disease.

Your situation is worse than mine. I will ask (the Director of Hospice

down here in So. Cal) if she knows of anyone that can help you out up where

you are and will let you know what she says. Good grief!.....I will go as far

as calling my lawyer, who has worked with the Elderly for 35 years, to see if

there is a proper lawyer reference for you too! I can't believe your

situation and would absolutely go bonkee if I had to put up with

it....again....! I

will make the calls and see if I can get you any references.

Take care and I hope you will be able to get some help soon! Peace to you

and rats to the step-people! LOL Stevie

* * * * * * * * * *

Stevie and Dena,

I live in Northern California. I heard where others

were able to get Hospice in to help even if their LO

was not 6 months terminal. I called Hospice and they

said that I needed my husband's primary doctor to

request Hospice to come to my home and evaluate my

husband. So I called the doctor. At first the doctor

said that Jim did not qualify, because he is not 6

months termainal and didn't see a reason to call them.

So I put up a fit and screamed, that I needed help, so

the doctor put in a request. Hospice came and asked me

questions about Jim, I played up every angle about his

demands and needs, but he did not qualify. He was in

bed when they came, but she went back to see him and

asked him to sit up, he could with her assistance.

Since he was not bedridden and 6 months terminal, she

said he did not qualify.

I am at my wits end and need help. We don't qualify

for anything. I applied for MediCal/Medicaid again on

December 2, since my Elder Care Attorney specializing

in MediCal went over all of our assets and said that

Jim would qualify, since the assets were all protected

and in Trusts, but it came back denied. I have been so

down. I called Alzheimer's assoc. for help too. They

also sent me a form online of our assets. I am

beginning to think there is no relief for me.

I can't get to the money being in Trusts to keep care

of Jim and the house repairs. I don't know what to do.

My attorney was on vacation until January 3, so I

called to make another appointment to see where

everything went wrong.

I hope Dena has better luck than I have had. Jan

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It seems a shame that all you seem to hit is one brick wall after the other.

Have the kids even been to see him?

Simmel

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>Reply-To: LBDcaregivers

>To: LBDcaregivers

>Subject: Re: Stevie/Dena

>Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:39:30 -0800 (PST)

>

>Stevie and Dena,

>I live in Northern California. I heard where others

>were able to get Hospice in to help even if their LO

>was not 6 months terminal. I called Hospice and they

>said that I needed my husband's primary doctor to

>request Hospice to come to my home and evaluate my

>husband. So I called the doctor. At first the doctor

>said that Jim did not qualify, because he is not 6

>months termainal and didn't see a reason to call them.

>So I put up a fit and screamed, that I needed help, so

>the doctor put in a request. Hospice came and asked me

>questions about Jim, I played up every angle about his

>demands and needs, but he did not qualify. He was in

>bed when they came, but she went back to see him and

>asked him to sit up, he could with her assistance.

>Since he was not bedridden and 6 months terminal, she

>said he did not qualify.

>I am at my wits end and need help. We don't qualify

>for anything. I applied for MediCal/Medicaid again on

>December 2, since my Elder Care Attorney specializing

>in MediCal went over all of our assets and said that

>Jim would qualify, since the assets were all protected

>and in Trusts, but it came back denied. I have been so

>down. I called Alzheimer's assoc. for help too. They

>also sent me a form online of our assets. I am

>beginning to think there is no relief for me.

>I can't get to the money being in Trusts to keep care

>of Jim and the house repairs. I don't know what to do.

>My attorney was on vacation until January 3, so I

>called to make another appointment to see where

>everything went wrong.

>I hope Dena has better luck than I have had. Jan

>

>

>

>

>--- Donna Mido wrote:

>

> > Stevie,

> >

> > Thanks for the referral. That will help her get

> > started with a personal intro. Wow! We need more

> > info like that.

> >

> > Thanks again.

> >

> > Donna R

> >

> > Do you want to read more about Lewy Body? You can

> > also read the Thistle, the LBD Newsletter. Just

> > click on:

> >

> > http://www.lewybodydementia.org

> >

> >

> > Bed Sores

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone

> > >

> > > I am feeling so frustrated right now. We just

> > > returned

> > > from the Dr. My Mom has yet another bed sore. She

> > > has

> > > them on her ears, butt, heals, the bone that

> > sticks

> > > out of her ankle and now the back of her calf. I

> > can

> > > do nothing right!! I am just so frustrated and

> > feel

> > > like crying. I try to turn her and put neosporin

> > on

> > > the wounds constantly. Like every time she goes to

> > > the

> > > bathroom, but they bleed and then stop, then bleed

> > > and

> > > then stop. It is the a merry-go-round effect. Now

> > > the

> > > Dr has prescribed 1% silver sulfadiazine cream to

> > > help

> > > with healing process and has referred us to wound

> > > care. I have used an egg crate and booties for her

> > > wounds and I just feel like I am fighting a uphill

> > > battle every day.

> > >

> > > Is is time to place her in a residential care or

> > > facility that can care for her better?

> > >

> > > I know that the time is drawing close. She cannot

> > > stand alone and cannot sit without help. She is

> > not

> > > bedridden yet, but almost. She walks about 10 feet

> > > from bathroom to bedroom a day. Then the rest of

> > the

> > > time I use the wheelchair to transport her from

> > > living

> > > room to bathroom. She wears a diaper and cannot

> > fed

> > > herself. I do just about everything for her now.

> > So

> > > my

> > > question is this. Is it time to place her or do I

> > > just

> > > keep up trying to do the best I can? How do you

> > know

> > > when it is time? I am waiting for a sign from God.

> > I

> > > have had many signs, but I think that I am the one

> > > hanging on here and not her. I feel like I am

> > > throwing

> > > in the towel and quitting if I place her in a

> > > facility

> > > too soon. So since she is still walking I have

> > > waited.

> > > I do not want a accident to be the reason that I

> > > have

> > > placed her. Everyday I pray and pray that I do not

> > > drop her. It is so hard to get a person who is

> > dead

> > > weight to a standing position when you are just

> > one

> > > person. Do I hire someone for 8 hours a day at $17

> > > an

> > > hour to help me? Or do I place her in a home? If

> > > anyone has an answer out there please pass it

> > along.

> > >

> > > Dena in CA

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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>

>

>

>

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Most places also have more than one Hospice. Try another. I wouldn't take no

for an answer at this point. I know states are funding home care out of

Medicare. I just don't know where.

For those of you who have a few minutes, please check in your own Gov. site. It

would be helpful for us to get some of these resources in place.

Donna R

Do you want to read more about Lewy Body? You can also read the Thistle, the

LBD Newsletter. Just click on:

http://www.lewybodydementia.org

Bed Sores

> >

> > Hi Everyone

> >

> > I am feeling so frustrated right now. We just

> > returned

> > from the Dr. My Mom has yet another bed sore. She

> > has

> > them on her ears, butt, heals, the bone that

> sticks

> > out of her ankle and now the back of her calf. I

> can

> > do nothing right!! I am just so frustrated and

> feel

> > like crying. I try to turn her and put neosporin

> on

> > the wounds constantly. Like every time she goes to

> > the

> > bathroom, but they bleed and then stop, then bleed

> > and

> > then stop. It is the a merry-go-round effect. Now

> > the

> > Dr has prescribed 1% silver sulfadiazine cream to

> > help

> > with healing process and has referred us to wound

> > care. I have used an egg crate and booties for her

> > wounds and I just feel like I am fighting a uphill

> > battle every day.

> >

> > Is is time to place her in a residential care or

> > facility that can care for her better?

> >

> > I know that the time is drawing close. She cannot

> > stand alone and cannot sit without help. She is

> not

> > bedridden yet, but almost. She walks about 10 feet

> > from bathroom to bedroom a day. Then the rest of

> the

> > time I use the wheelchair to transport her from

> > living

> > room to bathroom. She wears a diaper and cannot

> fed

> > herself. I do just about everything for her now.

> So

> > my

> > question is this. Is it time to place her or do I

> > just

> > keep up trying to do the best I can? How do you

> know

> > when it is time? I am waiting for a sign from God.

> I

> > have had many signs, but I think that I am the one

> > hanging on here and not her. I feel like I am

> > throwing

> > in the towel and quitting if I place her in a

> > facility

> > too soon. So since she is still walking I have

> > waited.

> > I do not want a accident to be the reason that I

> > have

> > placed her. Everyday I pray and pray that I do not

> > drop her. It is so hard to get a person who is

> dead

> > weight to a standing position when you are just

> one

> > person. Do I hire someone for 8 hours a day at $17

> > an

> > hour to help me? Or do I place her in a home? If

> > anyone has an answer out there please pass it

> along.

> >

> > Dena in CA

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Jan

Do we live in a weird state or what? How can others

get Hospice so easily and we cannot? It's like they

think we are lying or something. The doctor that

turned us down only asked my Mom one question. " Where

are you at right now? " and she answered the wrong

city. He spoke to me the rest of the time and that was

the first and only time we have seen that doctor. How

can such a one time thing be set in stone? I have

calls in right now trying to find out some answers. If

I get any, which I doubt, I will let you know. I think

I am going to look into residential care before I

totally lose it. I feel like I am at a breaking point

today.

Dena

--- Janet Colello wrote:

> Stevie and Dena,

> I live in Northern California. I heard where others

> were able to get Hospice in to help even if their LO

> was not 6 months terminal. I called Hospice and they

> said that I needed my husband's primary doctor to

> request Hospice to come to my home and evaluate my

> husband. So I called the doctor. At first the doctor

> said that Jim did not qualify, because he is not 6

> months termainal and didn't see a reason to call

> them.

> So I put up a fit and screamed, that I needed help,

> so

> the doctor put in a request. Hospice came and asked

> me

> questions about Jim, I played up every angle about

> his

> demands and needs, but he did not qualify. He was in

> bed when they came, but she went back to see him and

> asked him to sit up, he could with her assistance.

> Since he was not bedridden and 6 months terminal,

> she

> said he did not qualify.

> I am at my wits end and need help. We don't qualify

> for anything. I applied for MediCal/Medicaid again

> on

> December 2, since my Elder Care Attorney

> specializing

> in MediCal went over all of our assets and said that

> Jim would qualify, since the assets were all

> protected

> and in Trusts, but it came back denied. I have been

> so

> down. I called Alzheimer's assoc. for help too. They

> also sent me a form online of our assets. I am

> beginning to think there is no relief for me.

> I can't get to the money being in Trusts to keep

> care

> of Jim and the house repairs. I don't know what to

> do.

> My attorney was on vacation until January 3, so I

> called to make another appointment to see where

> everything went wrong.

> I hope Dena has better luck than I have had. Jan

>

>

>

>

> --- Donna Mido wrote:

>

> > Stevie,

> >

> > Thanks for the referral. That will help her get

> > started with a personal intro. Wow! We need more

> > info like that.

> >

> > Thanks again.

> >

> > Donna R

> >

> > Do you want to read more about Lewy Body? You can

> > also read the Thistle, the LBD Newsletter. Just

> > click on:

> >

> > http://www.lewybodydementia.org

> >

> >

> > Bed Sores

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone

> > >

> > > I am feeling so frustrated right now. We just

> > > returned

> > > from the Dr. My Mom has yet another bed sore.

> She

> > > has

> > > them on her ears, butt, heals, the bone that

> > sticks

> > > out of her ankle and now the back of her calf. I

> > can

> > > do nothing right!! I am just so frustrated and

> > feel

> > > like crying. I try to turn her and put neosporin

> > on

> > > the wounds constantly. Like every time she goes

> to

>

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What an incredible group of support, optimism, needed humour and concrete help

you are

to each other. I am so glad I found you!

>

> Hello Jan,

>

> I was wondering how you were doing. I must tell you I went through a similar

> experience with the Hospice choice too. My Unc's doctor said the same

> thing...that " he wasn't 6 mos. off, " so he was not going to " bother " with

hospice.

> So, I went to the TOP and called the Director of Hospice and she could tell

> how stressed out and desperate I was, so she came and " assessed " my Unc at my

> home herself. SHE called my Unc's doctor and TOLD HIM that we needed

> Hospice's services in order for me to take proper care of my Uncle. You don't

have to

> be in a " 6 months to die " situation before Hospice can help you. You just

> need to basically agree that you want " comfort care " instead of a " cure " for

> your disease.

>

> Your situation is worse than mine. I will ask (the Director of Hospice

> down here in So. Cal) if she knows of anyone that can help you out up where

> you are and will let you know what she says. Good grief!.....I will go as far

> as calling my lawyer, who has worked with the Elderly for 35 years, to see if

> there is a proper lawyer reference for you too! I can't believe your

> situation and would absolutely go bonkee if I had to put up with

it....again....! I

> will make the calls and see if I can get you any references.

>

> Take care and I hope you will be able to get some help soon! Peace to you

> and rats to the step-people! LOL Stevie

>

> * * * * * * * * * *

>

>

>

> Stevie and Dena,

> I live in Northern California. I heard where others

> were able to get Hospice in to help even if their LO

> was not 6 months terminal. I called Hospice and they

> said that I needed my husband's primary doctor to

> request Hospice to come to my home and evaluate my

> husband. So I called the doctor. At first the doctor

> said that Jim did not qualify, because he is not 6

> months termainal and didn't see a reason to call them.

> So I put up a fit and screamed, that I needed help, so

> the doctor put in a request. Hospice came and asked me

> questions about Jim, I played up every angle about his

> demands and needs, but he did not qualify. He was in

> bed when they came, but she went back to see him and

> asked him to sit up, he could with her assistance.

> Since he was not bedridden and 6 months terminal, she

> said he did not qualify.

> I am at my wits end and need help. We don't qualify

> for anything. I applied for MediCal/Medicaid again on

> December 2, since my Elder Care Attorney specializing

> in MediCal went over all of our assets and said that

> Jim would qualify, since the assets were all protected

> and in Trusts, but it came back denied. I have been so

> down. I called Alzheimer's assoc. for help too. They

> also sent me a form online of our assets. I am

> beginning to think there is no relief for me.

> I can't get to the money being in Trusts to keep care

> of Jim and the house repairs. I don't know what to do.

> My attorney was on vacation until January 3, so I

> called to make another appointment to see where

> everything went wrong.

> I hope Dena has better luck than I have had. Jan

>

>

>

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