Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 My name is Donna P. My father is the loved one with LBD. He was also fine until he had a mild heart attack in Dec. of 2002. He was put under anesthesia for an angioplasy and a few stents to be placed to repair blockages. Following this, my dad was never the same. It took 8 or 9 months for us to get a diagnosis but LBD was the diagnosis we got. My dad's mind is relatively good too. In the beginning we had some very strange behavior and some hallucinations but after we got the diagnosis and the proper medications, he is doing remarkably well mentally. He doesn't usually bring things up as far as memory recall but when we bring things up, he will talk about it like he remembers details. Kind of like his memory recall isn't good but once you jog his memory, he can remember. Sometimes he even still brings things up on his own. My son was in on Sunday to see him. When I went in on Monday he said, " Josh told me he got a new truck. I am afraid he is going to get in over his head and not be able to afford it. " I was kind of surprised because everything he said was right on, my son did get a new truck and I was worried about the same thing! So, my dad is very aware of his surroundings and what is going on. Sometimes it doesn't appear that way though. My dad also had the sleep disturbances. He has RBD (Rem Sleep Behavior Disorder). He also has the Parkinson features, so much so that his neuropsychiatrist feels that he probably also has Parkinsons Disease. My dad has declined so much physically that we had to place him in a nursing home this year in May. He did well with us at home up until then. He was getting to the point we were having too much trouble transfering him. We were afraid of hurting him or ourselves. So, my answer is yes, some of our loved ones are aware right up to the end. I am sure others will share their stories. That is one of the things with LBD, the fluctuations in cognition, is it a curse or a blessing? I so much enjoy my dad knowing me and still enjoying so much in his life BUT, he is so very aware of his condition and often seems depressed about being in that state. Sometimes I wonder what he is thinking and would he be better off if he wasn't so aware. It is those times that I feel so sad. Anyways welcome to the group. You have found the right place for comfort, support and a whole lot of knowledge. (Way more than you will find any where else!) Donna P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hi Your mother sounds very together cognitively. I'm sorry to read about all of her physical problems. When her doctor told you/her that she had LBD did he/she explain why they came up with this diagnosis? Wondering out loud here. Courage jean daquila wrote: > My mom was diagnosed three years ago with LBD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 jean, i am sorry you had to search us out, but welcome to our famly, please feel free here to ask questions, rant, rave, scream, cry, share stories, whatever it takes to help you. we are here for you and we understand. the big clue that seems to suggest your mom has lbd is the rapid decline post surgery. lbd patients as a whole seem to react extremely bad to surgical aneshtesia. my dad did that post hip surgery, he had a lung blood clot as well as aspiration pneymonia twice and a uti once, he died after that on 9/25/05, he was origainly diagnosded in 5/=4 but has had it since 1993 that i am aware of. what type of medicines is your mom on. there are some really taboo medicines for lbd p[atients., like haldol and ativan. exelon is an excellent medication, it helped dad for one year and then we addednamenda. but dad develped orthostaic bp and had to stop the meds. take care hon, and goood luck hugs sharon m -- I'M NEW TO THIS GROUP a My mom was diagnosed three years ago with LBD. It started out with some incontinence, then sleep apnea and sleep disorder -- she had a sleep study done; then COPD, and pain and numbness on her left side. The incontinence got worse until we (my sister, brother and I)decided along with her doctor and herself that she should have a bladder lift and hysterectomy. After that surgery she was never the same. It didn't cure the urinary incontinence and she just got weaker and weaker. She is now in a nursing home. She has a trach because of aspiration pneumonia and she has a feeding tube. She constantly gets infections so is on antibiotics most of the time. She has a horrible bed sore which is getting better but still gives me the willies to see. This is because she can't move on her own; can't stand or walk obviously and even her arms are very, very weak. With the trach she has a speaking valve so she can communicate to us and her mind is still surprisingly very good. Her short-term memory isn't very good, but remembers things when reminded. She still knows all about her personal finances and all about her care at the nursing home. Also, she wears a diaper and has a bag for the urine. This is a woman who was very independent and very healthy all her life until suddenly this came on. She rarely has hallucinations and they are minor. I'm just wondering is this really Lewy Body? She has the PD symptoms, too, tremors, etc. But everything I read about LBD says hallucinations are the major concern. And she doesn't have dementia (yet). I mean, she's so keenly aware of her situation, it's almost worse than if she were demented and didn't know what was going on. Her body is destroyed, but her mind is still there. My sister and brother live in the same town in WV and I live in CT. Mom is in a nursing home across the river in Ohio so they see her a lot. My sister goes to see her every day and is very knowledgeable about her care and the doctors, etc. I visit frequently and see mom every day that I'm there. She enjoys the company of her loved ones. Everyone keeps telling us (doctors and nurses, etc.) that our love to her and caring is invaluable. Does anybody else have a loved one with LBD who is like my mom? Thanks, D'Aquila in CT --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 She went to a neurologist for a sleep study. She was then diagnosed with sleep apnea and some kind of sleep behavior disorder. The CPAP (the mask for sleep apnea and that machine) seemed to help for a while. But then she started getting this stiffness on one side. At first we thought stroke but that was ruled out. Further investigation ruled out Alzheimer's and Parkinson's but she did have th Parkinson's symptpoms with the stiffness and some tremoring in her hand on that side. I'm not really sure how he came up with the Lewy body diagnosis other than by differential diagnosis if you know what I mean. Nevertheless, at this time she is a helpless invalid in a nursing home! It's so frustrating for us and you can only try to imagine how frustrating it is for her. We live in a smaller (not a tiny hick town) in WV, sburg. So we took her to Cleveland Clinic where she had further studies and sorta agreed on the Lewy body. But you know how it is. It's such a vague thing. We thought it was a rare disease until we started studying it more and found out it's really not rare at all. I probably didn't answer your question, but my sister and I believe the diagnosis is correct. We just wish we could make her more comfortable. She can't turn in bed or sit up or anything. Please write back to me with your thoughts. How was your LO diagnosed? Jean. gaat wrote: Hi Your mother sounds very together cognitively. I'm sorry to read about all of her physical problems. When her doctor told you/her that she had LBD did he/she explain why they came up with this diagnosis? Wondering out loud here. Courage jean daquila wrote: > My mom was diagnosed three years ago with LBD. Welcome to LBDcaregivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 I read about your dad and his post surgery experience. Like I said, Mom went down hill rapidly from then. She is on so many medications I don't know where to begin. One of them is Ativan. That's for pain or is it the one for nervousness? She's on pain meds: She has been on different ones. Nothing helps very well but when they give her the Ativan she settles down and relaxes, but it does make her sleepy. I think. It's confusing because she does take so many. She has COPD so has a breathing treatment twice a day. She's on I think it's called Mirapex for the tremors. I will get the list from my sister and give you more info. This site is really wonderful and I'm so glad I found it. I neighbor of my sister's found the web site on her own and told us about it! By the way, this neighbor writes for magazines and wants to do an article on mom and us about what we're going through. She wants to submit it to Women's Day magazine. What do you think about that idea? Jean Sharon wrote: jean, i am sorry you had to search us out, but welcome to our famly, please feel free here to ask questions, rant, rave, scream, cry, share stories, whatever it takes to help you. we are here for you and we understand. the big clue that seems to suggest your mom has lbd is the rapid decline post surgery. lbd patients as a whole seem to react extremely bad to surgical aneshtesia. my dad did that post hip surgery, he had a lung blood clot as well as aspiration pneymonia twice and a uti once, he died after that on 9/25/05, he was origainly diagnosded in 5/=4 but has had it since 1993 that i am aware of. what type of medicines is your mom on. there are some really taboo medicines for lbd p[atients., like haldol and ativan. exelon is an excellent medication, it helped dad for one year and then we addednamenda. but dad develped orthostaic bp and had to stop the meds. take care hon, and goood luck hugs sharon m -- I'M NEW TO THIS GROUP a My mom was diagnosed three years ago with LBD. It started out with some incontinence, then sleep apnea and sleep disorder -- she had a sleep study done; then COPD, and pain and numbness on her left side. The incontinence got worse until we (my sister, brother and I)decided along with her doctor and herself that she should have a bladder lift and hysterectomy. After that surgery she was never the same. It didn't cure the urinary incontinence and she just got weaker and weaker. She is now in a nursing home. She has a trach because of aspiration pneumonia and she has a feeding tube. She constantly gets infections so is on antibiotics most of the time. She has a horrible bed sore which is getting better but still gives me the willies to see. This is because she can't move on her own; can't stand or walk obviously and even her arms are very, very weak. With the trach she has a speaking valve so she can communicate to us and her mind is still surprisingly very good. Her short-term memory isn't very good, but remembers things when reminded. She still knows all about her personal finances and all about her care at the nursing home. Also, she wears a diaper and has a bag for the urine. This is a woman who was very independent and very healthy all her life until suddenly this came on. She rarely has hallucinations and they are minor. I'm just wondering is this really Lewy Body? She has the PD symptoms, too, tremors, etc. But everything I read about LBD says hallucinations are the major concern. And she doesn't have dementia (yet). I mean, she's so keenly aware of her situation, it's almost worse than if she were demented and didn't know what was going on. Her body is destroyed, but her mind is still there. My sister and brother live in the same town in WV and I live in CT. Mom is in a nursing home across the river in Ohio so they see her a lot. My sister goes to see her every day and is very knowledgeable about her care and the doctors, etc. I visit frequently and see mom every day that I'm there. She enjoys the company of her loved ones. Everyone keeps telling us (doctors and nurses, etc.) that our love to her and caring is invaluable. Does anybody else have a loved one with LBD who is like my mom? Thanks, D'Aquila in CT --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Hi I so know what you mean about wanting to make your mom more comfortable. My mom is also bedridden but we bought her an extra padded wheel chair that can transform into a bed so we ask that the staff at the LTCF take mom out of bed for most of the day. Even though mom can no longer communicate and has her eyes closed most of the day - even when eating which must be fed to her - we still like her to be in the room with others during activities. I'm sure she could care less but it sure makes us feel better. Hang in there, Courage jean daquila wrote: > She went to a neurologist for a sleep study. She was then diagnosed > with sleep apnea and some kind of sleep behavior disorder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Why is your mom bedridden? Is she just too weak or is she very sick? My mom does that closing of the eyes too. We say, " Mom, open your eyes. " She's listening and thinking and everything. She says sometimes she just can't keep them open even though she's not necessarily sleepy! It's probably all the meds. I don't know. gaat wrote: Hi I so know what you mean about wanting to make your mom more comfortable. My mom is also bedridden but we bought her an extra padded wheel chair that can transform into a bed so we ask that the staff at the LTCF take mom out of bed for most of the day. Even though mom can no longer communicate and has her eyes closed most of the day - even when eating which must be fed to her - we still like her to be in the room with others during activities. I'm sure she could care less but it sure makes us feel better. Hang in there, Courage jean daquila wrote: > She went to a neurologist for a sleep study. She was then diagnosed > with sleep apnea and some kind of sleep behavior disorder. Welcome to LBDcaregivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Hi My mom is bedridden because she can no longer move her body at all. Also, mom does not talk - on the very rare occasion and usually it doesn't make sense, though I did have her laughing on Wednesday. Mom is at the end stage of this disease and this is what happens to them. My God remember them. Courage jean daquila wrote: > Why is your mom bedridden? Is she just too weak or is she very > sick? My mom does that closing of the eyes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Remember the AD drugs and the Parkinson drugs work against each other. There needs to be a careful balance or they fight. Donna R I'M NEW TO THIS GROUP a My mom was diagnosed three years ago with LBD. It started out with some incontinence, then sleep apnea and sleep disorder -- she had a sleep study done; then COPD, and pain and numbness on her left side. The incontinence got worse until we (my sister, brother and I)decided along with her doctor and herself that she should have a bladder lift and hysterectomy. After that surgery she was never the same. It didn't cure the urinary incontinence and she just got weaker and weaker. She is now in a nursing home. She has a trach because of aspiration pneumonia and she has a feeding tube. She constantly gets infections so is on antibiotics most of the time. She has a horrible bed sore which is getting better but still gives me the willies to see. This is because she can't move on her own; can't stand or walk obviously and even her arms are very, very weak. With the trach she has a speaking valve so she can communicate to us and her mind is still surprisingly very good. Her short-term memory isn't very good, but remembers things when reminded. She still knows all about her personal finances and all about her care at the nursing home. Also, she wears a diaper and has a bag for the urine. This is a woman who was very independent and very healthy all her life until suddenly this came on. She rarely has hallucinations and they are minor. I'm just wondering is this really Lewy Body? She has the PD symptoms, too, tremors, etc. But everything I read about LBD says hallucinations are the major concern. And she doesn't have dementia (yet). I mean, she's so keenly aware of her situation, it's almost worse than if she were demented and didn't know what was going on. Her body is destroyed, but her mind is still there. My sister and brother live in the same town in WV and I live in CT. Mom is in a nursing home across the river in Ohio so they see her a lot. My sister goes to see her every day and is very knowledgeable about her care and the doctors, etc. I visit frequently and see mom every day that I'm there. She enjoys the company of her loved ones. Everyone keeps telling us (doctors and nurses, etc.) that our love to her and caring is invaluable. Does anybody else have a loved one with LBD who is like my mom? Thanks, D'Aquila in CT --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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