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Lori,

I do not know how old your son is, but some of our bright kids DO

learn how to use their OCD as an excuse to manipulate others. My way of

figuring

it whether my daughter is using OCD as an excuse for not wanting to do

something is by the level of distress when I question her. When it is OCD, she

zooms

from semi-rational to panic very quickly while if it is not OCD, the response

is merely argumentative.

OCD has the ability and tendency to morph into different forms. So a

child who may start with contamination fears may see those lessen only to be

replaced with a need for symmetry and having things " just so. " Awfully sneaky

disorder!

Hang in there...

Gail in N'Awlins

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I think a lot of us have wondered if our kids have gotten " smart " and

at times been a little manipulative to blame OCD for misbehaving or

avoidance, etc.

Your son might have just been experiencing another facet of OCD!

Sounds like something my would have some need/compulsion to

do. OCD can certainly come up with weird things!

And this " new OCD " behavior might not tie in at all with the more

familiar thoughts your son has been having (tho it could). OCD

has " told " my lots of things. There's not necessarily a

thought that goes along with all he does but sometimes just that

anxiety/fear/need that he " has " to complete something - sticking his

arm in the air, not being able to go thru a doorway, repeating some

movement (having to go back down the hall and start again or hitting

light switches on/off repeatedly....). My son has said that all his

OCD has to do with a feeling that something bad will happen to him if

he doesn't do " it " (or even does do something) and also he needs

a " just right " feeling.

Keep us updated on how things are going and if anything else seems to

pop up new!

> I noticed something last night with my son and it had me confused a

> little bit. We had a BBQ last night and whenever we do that we

> always get out the marshmellows and roast them for desert. My son

> had his long handled stick and I noticed him turning it around to

> stick the wooden handle into the coals. I shook my head No and he

> stopped. It really wasn't that huge of a deal and all I did was

shake

> my head I never said a word to scold him. He then told me " I think

my

> OCD told me to do that. " It got me thinking because I am used to

his

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Don't forget that these wonderful children are ....just that, children. I had a

similier conversation with our therapist, who along with my husband, reminded me

that little boys are quite facinated with ... anything destructive, death,

killing - i.e. every stick etc. gets turned into a gun, and hurting themselves,

just to see what would happen. Add a little OCD to that, and presto! Its quite

alarming, but mostly harmless. Just a few more grey hairs for all of us.

doodlebug963 wrote:I noticed something last night with my

son and it had me confused a

little bit. We had a BBQ last night and whenever we do that we

always get out the marshmellows and roast them for desert. My son

had his long handled stick and I noticed him turning it around to

stick the wooden handle into the coals. I shook my head No and he

stopped. It really wasn't that huge of a deal and all I did was shake

my head I never said a word to scold him. He then told me " I think my

OCD told me to do that. " It got me thinking because I am used to his

OCD telling him things like he doesn't love us or he is going to hurt

us but that he knows he'd never actually do anthing to us. His Dr.

also told us that there has never been any documented cases of

someone actually acting out their morbid thought. So is this 2

different types of thoughts he is having since he actually started to

act this one out? It's all so confusing and complex sometimes. I

also wonder if he sometimes uses his OCD as an excuse if he

misbehaves. Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks,

Lori H. in WA

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