Re: Tracey's view on Biomedical Intervention, TST and Cerebra Research

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Tracey, you recently expressed your view that TST was a more effective therapy than biomedical treatments for children with autism. I would like to hear your views on the Cerebra Research Unit’s opinion

of TST so that we parents are kept well informed.

Thanks

Gillian

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Nothing do to do with the above topic ..... lemons are high in acid content

but strangely enough are considered one of the best alkaline forming

foods......ie alkalinity of our blood ..

How did they test the stomach acids ?

TIA Nina

it's funny as Harry always seems drawn to things which help him, he has had a

facination about lemons for some time now, i drink alot of freshly squeezed

lemons in water and Harry would lick the other half of lemon and wince but keep

going back for more, then we had his bloods checked and low and behold his

stomach acids were low!

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Hi Nina

Well persons screen, i think Nina, although i can't be sure as we did lots of blood test at the same time, i dont mind sending you the results directly if you are interested in seeing them.

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To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: mmcivor@...Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:02:11 +0000Subject: Re: Tracey's view on Biomedical Intervention, TST and Cerebra Research

Nothing do to do with the above topic ..... lemons are high in acid content but strangely enough are considered one of the best alkaline forming foods......ie alkalinity of our blood ..How did they test the stomach acids ?TIA Ninait's funny as Harry always seems drawn to things which help him, he has had a facination about lemons for some time now, i drink alot of freshly squeezed lemons in water and Harry would lick the other half of lemon and wince but keep going back for more, then we had his bloods checked and low and behold his stomach acids were low!> > x > >

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Hi MargaretYou are correct that Doran spent a lot of time with human potential programme, with gains.. and this was a 15 hour per day programme, In the end of her book Doran child of miracles.. she mentions finding an alternative scheme in the UK which required less time which also made gains.  

I have known and her family for over two years now and even in this time I have noticed Doran continuing to make gains .. his hands are more supple and his fingers are straighter. His fitness and ablility to run long distance have vastly improved. Unlike most CP people he can do endurance work.. and does respectable times at the half marathon.... The difference between Doran and most CP people is that he has more lung capacity and can maintain his oxygen levels.. and although he should be able to compete in the disabled olympics, there is NO long distance race for CP people.. because they are not Supposed to be able to do these sorts of activities.

Tracey

 

I don't know the full history of 's son but I do know that when young she took him to the Institutes for Human Potential in the USA and did a mssive amount of patterning and the extremely demanding intervention programme the Domans insisted upon. I think this was followed for several years? There were other interventions and approaches too. So - it might perhaps not be fair to say that all his improvement was down to TST and in that respect I think your post might be misleading.

I haven't seen the Autism File issue to which you refer. It would be very helpful if someone would kindly share the references. Has there been anything published in a peer-reviewed journal or any independent research? I am not saying TST doesn't work for anyone, as some parents on this list believe their chid is benefiting, but I do think it may be true to say that there is no published research that meets any known scientific standard? I should be very interested to read such research, if there is any.

I do value parental experience and views - otherwise I wouldn't be here, but I have also been on lists long enough to have a few shocks. I remember on another list, a long time ago, a parent posting how one particular intervention had really helped their child and they had made enormous progress. They then proudly posted photos and I was shocked (and upset) to see a child still in a terrible state physically - from the parent's description I had gained an entirely different picture.

Surely, we can't go down the route of outright rejection of science and the scientific method and rubbishing everything the medical world has to offer but then uncritically accept everything parents say as perfect and infallible? I have learnt a lot from parents, especially on this list, but I am also of the view that sometimes we can be wrong when we attribute something going on in our child (for good or ill) to a particular cause. Doctors misdiagnose all the time, or fail to diagnose. I think I am also liable to error! Being a mother doesn't make me a mind reader or God. I actually find it impossible to attribute what's going on inmy child to any particular supplement (etc) much of the time. I am not a mind reader. Henry can't tell me how he feels. I can guess - but it's a guess.

Margaret

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i am from the US and am very interested in learning the tst protocol,i am big

into natural things. is there anyone that can lead me to a book or DVD that i

could purchase to learn this method? or is their any practitioners in the USA?

thank you in advance for helping out a yankee.

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Dear CherylUnfortunately at this time there are NO practitioners in the US and because much of the benefit of this therapy comes from the pressures and speed of the massage techniques, it does not easily work on DVDs. 

Scotson has families visit her from all over the world and they can learn enough for about 9 months in a concentrated one week of learning. There have been satellite TST centres established in Africa and malaysia, however I do not know how they operate. In the first instance the teaching can be done without having your child present. Just looking at a video of your child moving and breathing, ie with their ribcage and shoulders visible, gives a lot of information about how the body is working and compensating if a weak breathing system is present.

If you go to www.advancecentres.com you can learn a little more about this therapy.. and on the files section within this Yahoo group there is a little more ASD specific information.

is based very close to Gatwick Airport in UK so it is very convenient for overseas patients, and there is child friendly accommodation very close to the Centre too.

Best WishesTracey

 

i am from the US and am very interested in learning the tst protocol,i am big into natural things. is there anyone that can lead me to a book or DVD that i could purchase to learn this method? or is their any practitioners in the USA?

thank you in advance for helping out a yankee.

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