Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 In my situation I know my body is not absorbing what it should. Although things are much better in that category. Also, I agree with you the less animal products you eat the more lean you are. good to know I am not alone in skinniness. KC KC, I think any of us who are on some kind of 'MS diet' will be too thin, unless we are VERY creative. When I first went on my diet, I lost over 30 pounds and there was a woman at work who lectured me every day about anorexia. It was ridiculous that I had to defend my healthy diet as I sat there eating a big salad, while the rest of the office munched on doughnuts and fast food! I was absolutely shocked that they knew so little about nutrition that they could think they were living a healthier lifestyle than I was. One day our boss walked by, as she was giving me the usual speech about anorexia, and said, "Jackie, you're just jealous". No one ever mentioned anorexia again. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 Hi guys, I too am too thin. It is amazing how people envy thinness. For example last winter I went with a friend to her friend's house. Here I am stumbling around and all I got from her was how disgusted she was with herself and how skinny I am. To walk normally or to be 10 pounds overweight, its such a hard decision. I used to get the skinny thin a lot at work too, never mind I had trouble standing there talking to people. I call this reverse discrimination. In my situation I know my body is not absorbing what it should. Although things are much better in that category. Also, I agree with you the less animal products you eat the more lean you are. good to know I am not alone in skinniness. KC _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 the skinny on skinny Agreed. It is so depressing is to hear healthy people tell me I'm lucky to be slim. Yes, yes....I'd rather be 10 or 15 or even 50 pounds overweight than to be plagued by MS. People need to think before they shoot off their mouths like that. Betsy KC wrote: > I too am too thin. It is amazing how people envy thinness. For example > last winter I went with a friend to her friend's house. Here I am stumbling > around and all I got from her was how disgusted she was with herself and how > skinny I am. To walk normally or to be 10 pounds overweight, its such a > hard decision. > KC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 > > Thanks to all who commiserated on the skinny issue! If I find anything that helps me put on weight I'll let you know. People are always telling me to eat breads, pastas and animal products to gain weight, but they truely don't understand what it is to have a direct increase in symptoms from those foods! P.S. Saw my dentist this week and looking into a mouthguard and some other dental work to help solve TMJ. My ear pain has definately decreased the last week or so. Hope all is well with everyone, and that you have a good christmas season coming up with not too much extra stress! regards; Les _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 This obsession with weight is not good for anyone. The thing to strive for is *health, not the ideal figure of the moment. Sylvia Boy do I ever agree with you there! And I am thin, and have been more of my life than not. But, I was still caught up in all that you are talking about. It's taken me more than half a lifetime to realize how wrong it is to put so much stress on being thin. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 P.S. Saw my dentist this week and looking into a mouthguard and some other dental work to help solve TMJ. My ear pain has definately decreased the last week or so. Hope all is well with everyone, and that you have a good christmas season coming up with not too much extra stress! regards; Les Les, Mine improved quite a bit after I got nightgaurds, but it's not completely cured. At least I don't have much pain with it anymore. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 I am still debating the whole amalgam removal thing, but I think I'll go through with it one tooth at a time while chelating before, during and after each tooth. I have heard there is a dentist in New York who removes amalgams from his patients with AIDS. He has them soak in tubs of apple cider vinegar after each extraction to allow their bodies to chelate out the heavy metals. A bit weird, but worth a try. Regards; Les, I know a guy who is in the midst of amalgam removal right now. He has a quadrant done at a time. He does intervenous chelation before or after, I forget which, each removal session. He has done very well - he only seemed to have any symptoms after the first session, and that was just fatigue and just not feeling too well, but nothing at all big. Of course, he doesn't have MS either. He did have some other health problems, though, including a horrid case of candida overgrowth. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 KC wrote: > I too am too thin. It is amazing how people envy thinness.> I think we can blame the media for this. All the models and actresses are extremely thin. I have never been thin; I've fought my weight for most of my life. I am always trying to lose weight. As you can probably guess, I have caught a lot of flak for being overweight. This obsession with weight is not good for anyone. The thing to strive for is *health, not the ideal figure of the moment. Sylvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 Sylvia wrote: >I think we can blame the media for this. All the models and >actresses >are extremely thin. I have never been thin; I've fought my weight >for >most of my life. Amen! Being very underweight or overweight has its obvious health complications. I admitt that I want to gain 10 pounds for appearnace sake, but I am also conscious of the fact that I could use the extra weight just in case I have a major set-back or illness, I'll need a bit of padding. Right now, I can't afford to lose another ounce. Overweight has it's obvious health issues. Especially with auto-immune diseases, our bodies have to work under stressful situation as it is without adding obesity to the list. 40% of American women between the ages of 20 and 40 are more than 20 pounds overweight. That's the Standard American Diet ( SAD) for you! I am sure if you adopted a mostly raw diet, or followed the Best Bet Diet, you would not only lose the extra weight, but your symptoms would improve as well. Then you can complain with the rest of us how skinny you are! Regards; > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 Carol Said:> >Les, >Mine improved quite a bit after I got nightgaurds, but it's not completely >cured. At least I don't have much pain with it anymore. Thanks. My dentist said there may also be a connection to the screwed up disks in my cervical spine and the way it has affected the alignment of my jaw. Possibly a connection to high levels of mercury in my body as well. ( A normal level is under 12: my mercury level is 44). I am going to visit my Grostic chiropractor in the new year to help realign my neck, and start a natural herbal oral chelation treatment for the mercury and see if that helps. I am still debating the whole amalgam removal thing, but I think I'll go through with it one tooth at a time while chelating before, during and after each tooth. I have heard there is a dentist in New York who removes amalgams from his patients with AIDS. He has them soak in tubs of apple cider vinegar after each extraction to allow their bodies to chelate out the heavy metals. A bit weird, but worth a try. Regards; _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Elanor wrote: > >I'm on the BBD and have put on weight, my concern is I am not eating enough >to accommodate the weight I am putting on but obviously I have gone into >starvation mode and my body is storing fat. I eat a high percentage raw, >still eat protein, which consists of chicken or fish. I am not overweight >by any means but could do with losing a few pounds for comfort sake. Hi Elanor; Are you eating complex carbohydrates like bread, pastas, rice, cereals, potatos etc.? This plus the combination of the animal products still left in your diet would account for weight gain. There is ample protein in a completely vegan diet, especially when 80% of what you eat is raw. No need to eat chicken or fish to get protein, and there are many good arguments to be made not to eat animal products. Regards; _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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