ideas wanted for rage,tantrums & fits

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Hi I would like ideas that worked for rage,tantrums & fits. I have

tried magic 123 and time outs. I have also tried rewards and taking

things away. Our therapist says consequence and rewards with time

outs or earlier bedtimes are the way to go. If my 10 year old goes

into a fit or rage non of theese work at all. I have taken his

limited interest toys and he seemed almost relieved. He doesnt watch

tv save for one show a week and I took that away. He did not insist

to to watch it. I took his shoes after our therapist said find a

trigger,its not toys or tv and he flipped out. I did not give the

shoes back for punishment until the next day. He began throwing

things and swinging a back pack around hitting anyone of us that came

near enough. He did stop for just a moment to ask if someone got a

new haircut. It was like a time warp slipped in. Then came after me

hitting and kicking and biting if I took hold of him. I finally

pulled and fought while he kept hitting and kicking to get him into

his room for the time out and he pushed the door through the jam and

kept pounding and pushing until the jam broke. The door fell down and

pieces of wood hit the floor. He couldnt get control of his self and

started putting things in his mouth and eyes. Once he had calmed down

and was safe after much pounding and yelling,screaming and throwing

things I came up stairs and I had a good cry. Then he went back into

the same rage like a re-run. I really need some better ideas. The

empirical ones,the tried and true do not work with him. I am happy to

say we have had two good days in a row following this 12 hour episode.

Now that I know his trigger, is it worth the battle? Will it really

help or teach him discipline?