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What kind of " bumps " . Like chicken skin? If it's just on the chest I

don't know.

Willis' book says this about rash on cheeks:

<snip>

Vitamin B2 is needed in glutathioneproduction, in mitochondrial

function for energy, and in the pathway that converts homocysteine to

methionine and SAMe. A shortage of vitamin B2 would hamper production

of cysteine, glutathione, glutathione peroxidase, taurine, and the

sulfate needed to detoxify Phase II toxins (PST). Vitamin B2 is

probably the most commonly deficient vitamin in America. It is needed

for vitamin B6 to function, and depleted by high intake of vitamin B6.

Deficiency symptoms are: sensitive, easily-fatigued eyes; blurred

vision; itching-bloodshot eyes; dizziness; inflammation of mouth; sore

tongue; vivid red lips; dermatitis; itching nose; cracks in the

corners of the mouth, and rash on the cheeks.

</snip>

Mark

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> Does anyone else get the red cheeks shortly after giving Valtrex? Is

> this normal...good...bad? Also, a rash (lots of bumps across the

> chest...has been there for a long time...but has increased and become

> more pronounced since starting Valtrex) is still there...should this

> be going away by now (we are on day 11)? Are any other kids still

> fighting taking the Valtrex? My little guy is still really fighting

> hard!

>

> Thanks-

> Barbie Hines

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Hi Barb,

Colter is on day 30 of 500mg twice a day and is red cheeks and rashes

are always there. More now than ever. The red cheeks just started

about a week ago, but rashes come and go all the time (this is

nothing unusual for my son with or without Valtrex) His nights sweats

are more profuse and our Doc thinks its viral. Our homeopath thinks

its metals and his remedies. I guess will see....

As for behavior he is in a much better place than last week when I

posted how awful he was doing. Not any huge progress, but overall

back to normal and talking(or scripting) up a storm. Better than no

speech at all. Spinning and hand-flapping are almost gone as well.

I think most has to do with his recent IV on progress, but I'm still

giving the Valtrex and plan to for awhile because I think Valtrex is

a big contributor in his healing.

He just started the MB12 Nasal spray today. I will post if I get

any " Wows " .

Just recently my son accepts the Valtrex without being forced to

drink it in pear juice.

Margie

>

> Does anyone else get the red cheeks shortly after giving Valtrex?

Is

> this normal...good...bad? Also, a rash (lots of bumps across the

> chest...has been there for a long time...but has increased and

become

> more pronounced since starting Valtrex) is still there...should

this

> be going away by now (we are on day 11)? Are any other kids still

> fighting taking the Valtrex? My little guy is still really

fighting

> hard!

>

> Thanks-

> Barbie Hines

>

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Hi Barbie,

Tell me what you mean when you say " fighting. "

We are learning more and more about this rash that many folks are

observing. I suspect that in some cases it's metals. My son had this

rash as well. It moved around some and then subsided when

the " regressive healing " stage ended. Red bumps is not a typical side

effect of Valtrex. This is something specific to our kids, and in my

opinion it can only be one of 4 things.

1. A viral rash

2. Metals excretion from lowering adenosine or improving liver

function (which we have found evidence in the medical literature that,

that may be the case).

3. Raised levels of bacteria and fungus (in those children not on

antifungals.

4. Something I'm not smart enough to realize yet.

I have a strong belief it's number two or one (or both).

- Stan

>

> Does anyone else get the red cheeks shortly after giving Valtrex?

Is

> this normal...good...bad? Also, a rash (lots of bumps across the

> chest...has been there for a long time...but has increased and

become

> more pronounced since starting Valtrex) is still there...should this

> be going away by now (we are on day 11)? Are any other kids still

> fighting taking the Valtrex? My little guy is still really fighting

> hard!

>

> Thanks-

> Barbie Hines

>

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In order to get him to take the Valtrex we literally have to hold

him down (kicking and screaming)...sometimes it takes two

attempts...but we are getting it down...he is a very headstrong

little guy...so maybe it will get better over time...I was just

wondering if my kid was the only one who hated the taste this much!

Hopefully the rash, etc. is viral and/or metals...I do not think it

is bacteria/fungus...only because he is on Diflucan...and we are

being incredibly strict with his diet...no potatoes, gfcf, etc...and

bowel movements are looking pretty good-

Thanks-

Barbie

> >

> > Does anyone else get the red cheeks shortly after giving

Valtrex?

> Is

> > this normal...good...bad? Also, a rash (lots of bumps across

the

> > chest...has been there for a long time...but has increased and

> become

> > more pronounced since starting Valtrex) is still there...should

this

> > be going away by now (we are on day 11)? Are any other kids

still

> > fighting taking the Valtrex? My little guy is still really

fighting

> > hard!

> >

> > Thanks-

> > Barbie Hines

> >

>

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Curious, did you start the nasal B12 also? We are 3 wks into the nasal

B12 and have had Red Cheeks for a week now. We have been on valtrex for

15 mos. and never had a red cheek reaction, however for the first six

months on valtrex did get red dots on trunk and legs intermittenly.

They looked like pimples (chicken pox like). We don't get them anymore.

Last week I introduced Coconut Water from the BED diet, I thought the

red cheeks were an allergic reaction to that, but when I pulled it,

over 5 days now, the red cheeks remain.

My deduction is detox. We did a round of ALA for the first time in 3

wks. the wknd the red cheeks appeared and his OCD returned, which for

him is heavy metals dumping. Possibly the nasal B12 is helping with the

detox. Other than the above mentioned, he usually tolerates chelation

well.

- In mb12 valtrex , " barbhines2000 " <jhines0117@c...>

wrote:

>

> Does anyone else get the red cheeks shortly after giving Valtrex? Is

> this normal...good...bad? Also, a rash (lots of bumps across the

> chest...has been there for a long time...but has increased and become

> more pronounced since starting Valtrex) is still there...should this

> be going away by now (we are on day 11)? Are any other kids still

> fighting taking the Valtrex? My little guy is still really fighting

> hard!

>

> Thanks-

> Barbie Hines

>

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there was a threat on this red cheeks/mb12 a couple of weeks ago, I think the

subject name was 'mb12 and immunity'. ... it seems quite a few of us are seeing

this.

Natasa

p.s. my son's fever has come down since, but red cheeks are still there, on and

off, mostly in the afternoons and evenings.

> >

> > Does anyone else get the red cheeks shortly after giving Valtrex? Is

> > this normal...good...bad? Also, a rash (lots of bumps across the

> > chest...has been there for a long time...but has increased and become

> > more pronounced since starting Valtrex) is still there...should this

> > be going away by now (we are on day 11)? Are any other kids still

> > fighting taking the Valtrex? My little guy is still really fighting

> > hard!

> >

> > Thanks-

> > Barbie Hines

> >

>

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My son has taken the Valtrex Aug 2004 and hates so much I give it to

him with the blue on it. He resists even taking 1/2 of a tablet

because of the taste where the tab is broken. This is a child who

takes unflavored CLO without a problem.

Kathy

> > >

> > > Does anyone else get the red cheeks shortly after giving

Valtrex? Is

> > > this normal...good...bad? Also, a rash (lots of bumps across the

> > > chest...has been there for a long time...but has increased and

become

> > > more pronounced since starting Valtrex) is still there...should

this

> > > be going away by now (we are on day 11)? Are any other kids still

> > > fighting taking the Valtrex? My little guy is still really

fighting

> > > hard!

> > >

> > > Thanks-

> > > Barbie Hines

> > >

> >

>

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  • 2 months later...

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for some expertise here. We just began Valtrex on Saturday afternoon and by the next day, my son had the appearance of red cheeks and major cold symptoms. He receives IVIG monthly and I suspect he had a small cold and minor cough last week (he is asymptomatic because of his IVIG so I just assume). By Monday his cough was very intense and his nose running, unlike any cold we've seen in some time.

My big concern is the slapped cheek look - I am pregnant and it's a common symptom of Fifth Disease which can cause some issues for an unborn child. I don't want to stop the Valtrex because I actually think it's more than likely causing these symptoms but if my unborn baby is in jeopardy, I should go talk to my OB (and I'll get a blood test to see if I am immune to the virus).

Some reassurance that other kids have had the bright red cheeks would be great....no rash has spread downward just yet. We think we have seen a few good things and my son is in fine spirits for the most part so we're hopeful here.

le

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The red cheeks is something that occurs quite often in gut dysfunction as well

and we see

signs of gut issues in our kids sometimes more often when we are working on

viruses. I

would put my money on that, but when your pregnant you need to be as careful as

you

can so I respect your concern.

Keep us updated. It sounds like you're moving in the right direction.

- Stan

>

> I agree, which is why I plan to speak to our DAN! Dr. and then my OB.

> I am in the last half of pregnancy which makes risk factors less so

> that's a good thing. It's just interesting that the symptoms that

> these kids initially show on Valtrex are very similar to Fifth

> Disease. The " slapped face " and red cheeks is classic from what I

> gather.

>

> ly, if I wasn't pregnant, I'd not be one bit concerned as Fifth

> Disease is pretty benign otherwise.

>

> We'll take the good with the bad....his cough has slightly improved but

> boy there are some MAJOR coughing jags here and there....I feel for my

> little guy. This morning he appears to have a cold sore on his lip -

> he has NEVER had one before so I am thinking this is also a positive

> sign.

>

> He has made so much progress developmentally with IVIG and RDI so

> Valtrex in our arsenal is awesome and we're hopeful!

>

> le

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