Guest guest Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many folks starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage boy...................... Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic stubbornness to start with! He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and arguing with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Being stubborn is what I would call normal behaviour or maybe that's just me lol It means they realise they have a choice? Mx what good news!!! we have also had a lot of stubborn behaviour especially in the last 5 days and Zach had a birds nest of yuk in his hair couldnt understand how it got there until I read anne's post its obviously yeasty coming out of his skulp... I am finding the stubbornness tricky, do you think its just teenage stuff with zach as well at aged 8 mandi???I think its a great supplement and I like it because it natural, lets hope we all see good results, Isobel>> Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many folks > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > boy......................> > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > stubbornness to start with!> > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and arguing > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Being stubborn is what I would call normal behaviour or maybe that's just me lol It means they realise they have a choice? Mx what good news!!! we have also had a lot of stubborn behaviour especially in the last 5 days and Zach had a birds nest of yuk in his hair couldnt understand how it got there until I read anne's post its obviously yeasty coming out of his skulp... I am finding the stubbornness tricky, do you think its just teenage stuff with zach as well at aged 8 mandi???I think its a great supplement and I like it because it natural, lets hope we all see good results, Isobel>> Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many folks > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > boy......................> > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > stubbornness to start with!> > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and arguing > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 what good news!!! we have also had a lot of stubborn behaviour especially in the last 5 days and Zach had a birds nest of yuk in his hair couldnt understand how it got there until I read anne's post its obviously yeasty coming out of his skulp... I am finding the stubbornness tricky, do you think its just teenage stuff with zach as well at aged 8 mandi???I think its a great supplement and I like it because it natural, lets hope we all see good results, Isobel > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many folks > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > boy...................... > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > stubbornness to start with! > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > ann.van.peteghem1@... writes: > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and arguing > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Anne - did you start the Transfer Factor before Neuroprotek - if so how long before ? Thanks. To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 8:45:42Subject: update Neuroprotek Hi, My boy (15) has been on Neuroprotek for 3 weeks now. He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and arguing with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. When he is with other people, he is less shy but it is not the same as at home. I do feel that his black/white thinking is more clear now, before that I often felt that I didn't know what he was thinking, now I do. His autism is becoming more clear to the people arround him because you can hear now that he doesn't have the same maturity in thinking in comparaison to his peers. I hope that his conversation will go more in depth later on but I am having doubts about that. I do know it can take some time. I am certainly getting more conversation with Neuroprotek than I ever did with Cytoflora, strange but true. he developed some cradle cap on his head, his stools are bit more sticky (dirty underpants !). I will cut down on the dosage and see if it stays that way, I combine Neuroprotek with Transfer factor. I feel that his gut is still a problem for him, always has been a picky eater and still is ! But I am pleased with the results so far. I am still giving OSR for chelating, I used to combine this with DMPS but I ran out of it. The combination of those two gave the best result but I don't have a prescription anymore, so it will take a lot of time untill I can start again. Anyone here who knows where I can buy it (without prescription) ? I am goint to Spain this summer, perhaps over there ? I know you can get it without prescription in Germany from a friend. I will try to give an update when I return from my holidays. Greets Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Great update. can I ask where do you get OSR? Kasia > > Hi, > > My boy (15) has been on Neuroprotek for 3 weeks now. > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and arguing with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. When he is with other people, he is less shy but it is not the same as at home. > I do feel that his black/white thinking is more clear now, before that I often felt that I didn't know what he was thinking, now I do. His autism is becoming more clear to the people arround him because you can hear now that he doesn't have the same maturity in thinking in comparaison to his peers. I hope that his conversation will go more in depth later on but I am having doubts about that. I do know it can take some time. I am certainly getting more conversation with Neuroprotek than I ever did with Cytoflora, strange but true. he developed some cradle cap on his head, his stools are bit more sticky (dirty underpants !). I will cut down on the dosage and see if it stays that way, I combine Neuroprotek with Transfer factor. I feel that his gut is still a problem for him, always has been a picky eater and still is ! But I am pleased with the results so far. > I am still giving OSR for chelating, I used to combine this with DMPS but I ran out of it. The combination of those two gave the best result but I don't have a prescription anymore, so it will take a lot of time untill I can start again. > Anyone here who knows where I can buy it (without prescription) ? I am goint to Spain this summer, perhaps over there ? I know you can get it without prescription in Germany from a friend. > I will try to give an update when I return from my holidays. > > Greets > > Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Great update. can I ask where do you get OSR? Kasia > > Hi, > > My boy (15) has been on Neuroprotek for 3 weeks now. > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and arguing with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. When he is with other people, he is less shy but it is not the same as at home. > I do feel that his black/white thinking is more clear now, before that I often felt that I didn't know what he was thinking, now I do. His autism is becoming more clear to the people arround him because you can hear now that he doesn't have the same maturity in thinking in comparaison to his peers. I hope that his conversation will go more in depth later on but I am having doubts about that. I do know it can take some time. I am certainly getting more conversation with Neuroprotek than I ever did with Cytoflora, strange but true. he developed some cradle cap on his head, his stools are bit more sticky (dirty underpants !). I will cut down on the dosage and see if it stays that way, I combine Neuroprotek with Transfer factor. I feel that his gut is still a problem for him, always has been a picky eater and still is ! But I am pleased with the results so far. > I am still giving OSR for chelating, I used to combine this with DMPS but I ran out of it. The combination of those two gave the best result but I don't have a prescription anymore, so it will take a lot of time untill I can start again. > Anyone here who knows where I can buy it (without prescription) ? I am goint to Spain this summer, perhaps over there ? I know you can get it without prescription in Germany from a friend. > I will try to give an update when I return from my holidays. > > Greets > > Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 hi mandi i aggree with you... normal behaviour!!! yes its a plus....best Isobel xxx > > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > folks > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > boy...................... > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > stubbornness to start with! > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes: > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > arguing > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 He is doing so so well Ann and you must have the patience of a saint but its worth persereving with this, I think the closer to 'normal' they get sometimes the harder it gets and its normal to refuse to accept what you are saying at his age and then go away and think about it, mull it over, he is well aware of those little difficulties he has and as they mature further they come back at you like it was their idea in the first place! Its hard at this age to decipher whether its inflexible ASD thinking or just plain teenage stuff. Tom (NT with a few traits) has come through the other side, rarely uses 'always' and 'never' now but still drives me up the wall, 17 in late August I'm told they become nice again at around age 20........................seems a long way off lol Mandi x I agree with Mandi, it could be his age (15) but I am almost a 100 % sure that it's because he can express himself better (thanks to Neuroprotek) that he realizes he can say in a more mature way what he is thinking about something and that he can refuse something by giving a logical, typical autistical explanation. He watches my reaction and I try to make him see that it is not always black/white but sometimes grey but he doesn't accept this easily, what he thinks, is true, that's the way it is ! In that way, I am learning him to use his language like his peers do, discussing things over and over again so I create pathways in his brain (I think ?) to be able to get a better spoken language. He is going to do his 3rd year in Junior High in september, maths-sciences so he'll better be prepared !Is there anyone here on the list that has been using NP for some months, if so, I would like to know what they are seeing in general and more specific regarding depth in language.Ann> > >> > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > folks > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > boy......................> > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > stubbornness to start with!> > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes:> > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > arguing > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps.> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Much of these subjects is black and white, so if that's his major then NT or ASD you can see why they problems, Tom was focused onthese subjects but now doing Psychology at 'A' level has helped him too Mx maths-sciences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 , I started it together with Neuroprotek because I ordered them together at Mandimart. At first, I gave 1 or 2 capsules TF/day. But after a while, Matthias got cramps because I raised the dosage Neuroprotek too fast. I restarted on a lower dosage but I raised his TF when I upped his Neuroprotek after one week and no more cramps. Still dirty underpants (can be yeast or too high dosage of TF or NP), I will lower the dosage and see if it gets better. HTH Ann > > Anne - did you start the Transfer Factor before Neuroprotek - if so how long > before ? Thanks. > > > > ________________________________ > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 8:45:42 > Subject: update Neuroprotek > > > Hi, > > My boy (15) has been on Neuroprotek for 3 weeks now. > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and arguing with > us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. When he is with other people, he is less shy but > it is not the same as at home. > I do feel that his black/white thinking is more clear now, before that I often > felt that I didn't know what he was thinking, now I do. His autism is becoming > more clear to the people arround him because you can hear now that he doesn't > have the same maturity in thinking in comparaison to his peers. I hope that his > conversation will go more in depth later on but I am having doubts about that. I > do know it can take some time. I am certainly getting more conversation with > Neuroprotek than I ever did with Cytoflora, strange but true. he developed some > cradle cap on his head, his stools are bit more sticky (dirty underpants !). I > will cut down on the dosage and see if it stays that way, I combine Neuroprotek > with Transfer factor. I feel that his gut is still a problem for him, always has > been a picky eater and still is ! But I am pleased with the results so far. > I am still giving OSR for chelating, I used to combine this with DMPS but I ran > out of it. The combination of those two gave the best result but I don't have a > prescription anymore, so it will take a lot of time untill I can start again. > Anyone here who knows where I can buy it (without prescription) ? I am goint to > Spain this summer, perhaps over there ? I know you can get it without > prescription in Germany from a friend. > I will try to give an update when I return from my holidays. > > Greets > > Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 , I started it together with Neuroprotek because I ordered them together at Mandimart. At first, I gave 1 or 2 capsules TF/day. But after a while, Matthias got cramps because I raised the dosage Neuroprotek too fast. I restarted on a lower dosage but I raised his TF when I upped his Neuroprotek after one week and no more cramps. Still dirty underpants (can be yeast or too high dosage of TF or NP), I will lower the dosage and see if it gets better. HTH Ann > > Anne - did you start the Transfer Factor before Neuroprotek - if so how long > before ? Thanks. > > > > ________________________________ > > To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe > Sent: Tue, 5 July, 2011 8:45:42 > Subject: update Neuroprotek > > > Hi, > > My boy (15) has been on Neuroprotek for 3 weeks now. > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and arguing with > us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. When he is with other people, he is less shy but > it is not the same as at home. > I do feel that his black/white thinking is more clear now, before that I often > felt that I didn't know what he was thinking, now I do. His autism is becoming > more clear to the people arround him because you can hear now that he doesn't > have the same maturity in thinking in comparaison to his peers. I hope that his > conversation will go more in depth later on but I am having doubts about that. I > do know it can take some time. I am certainly getting more conversation with > Neuroprotek than I ever did with Cytoflora, strange but true. he developed some > cradle cap on his head, his stools are bit more sticky (dirty underpants !). I > will cut down on the dosage and see if it stays that way, I combine Neuroprotek > with Transfer factor. I feel that his gut is still a problem for him, always has > been a picky eater and still is ! But I am pleased with the results so far. > I am still giving OSR for chelating, I used to combine this with DMPS but I ran > out of it. The combination of those two gave the best result but I don't have a > prescription anymore, so it will take a lot of time untill I can start again. > Anyone here who knows where I can buy it (without prescription) ? I am goint to > Spain this summer, perhaps over there ? I know you can get it without > prescription in Germany from a friend. > I will try to give an update when I return from my holidays. > > Greets > > Ann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I got it from my DAN but he is running out of it, I believe. Ann > > > > Hi, > > > > My boy (15) has been on Neuroprotek for 3 weeks now. > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and arguing with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. When he is with other people, he is less shy but it is not the same as at home. > > I do feel that his black/white thinking is more clear now, before that I often felt that I didn't know what he was thinking, now I do. His autism is becoming more clear to the people arround him because you can hear now that he doesn't have the same maturity in thinking in comparaison to his peers. I hope that his conversation will go more in depth later on but I am having doubts about that. I do know it can take some time. I am certainly getting more conversation with Neuroprotek than I ever did with Cytoflora, strange but true. he developed some cradle cap on his head, his stools are bit more sticky (dirty underpants !). I will cut down on the dosage and see if it stays that way, I combine Neuroprotek with Transfer factor. I feel that his gut is still a problem for him, always has been a picky eater and still is ! But I am pleased with the results so far. > > I am still giving OSR for chelating, I used to combine this with DMPS but I ran out of it. The combination of those two gave the best result but I don't have a prescription anymore, so it will take a lot of time untill I can start again. > > Anyone here who knows where I can buy it (without prescription) ? I am goint to Spain this summer, perhaps over there ? I know you can get it without prescription in Germany from a friend. > > I will try to give an update when I return from my holidays. > > > > Greets > > > > Ann > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I agree with Mandi, it could be his age (15) but I am almost a 100 % sure that it's because he can express himself better (thanks to Neuroprotek) that he realizes he can say in a more mature way what he is thinking about something and that he can refuse something by giving a logical, typical autistical explanation. He watches my reaction and I try to make him see that it is not always black/white but sometimes grey but he doesn't accept this easily, what he thinks, is true, that's the way it is ! In that way, I am learning him to use his language like his peers do, discussing things over and over again so I create pathways in his brain (I think ?) to be able to get a better spoken language. He is going to do his 3rd year in Junior High in september, maths-sciences so he'll better be prepared ! Is there anyone here on the list that has been using NP for some months, if so, I would like to know what they are seeing in general and more specific regarding depth in language. Ann > > > > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > folks > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > boy...................... > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > stubbornness to start with! > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes: > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > arguing > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 I agree with Mandi, it could be his age (15) but I am almost a 100 % sure that it's because he can express himself better (thanks to Neuroprotek) that he realizes he can say in a more mature way what he is thinking about something and that he can refuse something by giving a logical, typical autistical explanation. He watches my reaction and I try to make him see that it is not always black/white but sometimes grey but he doesn't accept this easily, what he thinks, is true, that's the way it is ! In that way, I am learning him to use his language like his peers do, discussing things over and over again so I create pathways in his brain (I think ?) to be able to get a better spoken language. He is going to do his 3rd year in Junior High in september, maths-sciences so he'll better be prepared ! Is there anyone here on the list that has been using NP for some months, if so, I would like to know what they are seeing in general and more specific regarding depth in language. Ann > > > > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > folks > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > boy...................... > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > stubbornness to start with! > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes: > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > arguing > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 we've been using neuroprotek for almost four months. My son doesn't speak. however, i think we are seeing good things. for one, his obsessions have changed completely. he used to be obsessed with screens (computer, tv, ipod, etc) and now he really doesn't care at all about them. He is into water (flushing toilets, turning on taps, doing laundry). this is huge for us as his screen obsession started with his regression and hadn't let up since. also, he is sometimes echoing words at the end of a sentence, especially questions. so if you ask him 'do you want to play in the pool?' he'll say 'poo'. just yesterday he was watching a bit of toy story before he went to bed and he laughed at the right parts and then echoed two words said in the movie. A first! About a month ago he was eating and I sat down and said " hi " . He said " hi " back! We were both so stunned that we just stared open mouthed at each other. it was like he did it without even trying. we have noticed physical signs that ds seems to be suffering less from inflammation. we have done loads of biomed with my son, but he is severe and we have had far too many setbacks. it almost seems now, although i hesitate to say it, that gains he makes, although still slow, are sticking. this is what i had hoped neuroprotek would do, based on dr theoharides' lectures. Anita > > > > > > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > > folks > > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > > boy...................... > > > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > > stubbornness to start with! > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes: > > > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > > arguing > > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Great to hear this Anita, hope the improvements will continue. I find this very remarkable things for a child that does not speak, it seems that Neuroprotek is unlocking certain things like speech and removing some obsessive behaviour. Good luck and keep us informed ! Ann > > > > > > > > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > > > folks > > > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > > > boy...................... > > > > > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > > > stubbornness to start with! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > > > arguing > > > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 hello anita, what excellent news, isobel > > > > > > > > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > > > folks > > > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > > > boy...................... > > > > > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > > > stubbornness to start with! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > > > arguing > > > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Nah my reflexologist based on her experience with her son and her newphews......... Mx Who told you they become nice at 20?Was it a man?! Lol!KXx> > > >> > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > > folks > > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > > boy......................> > > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > > stubbornness to start with!> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes:> > > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > > arguing > > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Fingers crossed !!!! Mx I am seeing a slightly different side to himlike eg. he will choose not to stand up when I go to stand him up or hewill refuse to give me what he is holding. It is a good "stubborness"for a child who is always indifferent if you know what I mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Wow Anita, that is fantastic! x To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: mysuperteach@...Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 18:10:57 +0000Subject: Re: update Neuroprotek we've been using neuroprotek for almost four months. My son doesn't speak. however, i think we are seeing good things. for one, his obsessions have changed completely. he used to be obsessed with screens (computer, tv, ipod, etc) and now he really doesn't care at all about them. He is into water (flushing toilets, turning on taps, doing laundry).this is huge for us as his screen obsession started with his regression and hadn't let up since.also, he is sometimes echoing words at the end of a sentence, especially questions. so if you ask him 'do you want to play in the pool?' he'll say 'poo'. just yesterday he was watching a bit of toy story before he went to bed and he laughed at the right parts and then echoed two words said in the movie. A first! About a month ago he was eating and I sat down and said "hi". He said "hi" back! We were both so stunned that we just stared open mouthed at each other. it was like he did it without even trying.we have noticed physical signs that ds seems to be suffering less from inflammation. we have done loads of biomed with my son, but he is severe and we have had far too many setbacks. it almost seems now, although i hesitate to say it, that gains he makes, although still slow, are sticking. this is what i had hoped neuroprotek would do, based on dr theoharides' lectures.Anita> > > >> > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > > folks > > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > > boy......................> > > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > > stubbornness to start with!> > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes:> > > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > > arguing > > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 That's fab news. Am so pleased for you and your family! You so deserve it K Xxxxx > > > > > > > > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > > > folks > > > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > > > boy...................... > > > > > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > > > stubbornness to start with! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > > > arguing > > > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Who told you they become nice at 20? Was it a man?! Lol! K Xx > > > > > > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > > folks > > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > > boy...................... > > > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > > stubbornness to start with! > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes: > > > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > > arguing > > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Hi Anita, This is so lovely to hear, I'm really happy for you and ds and hoping lots more improvements round the corner. emily x > we've been using neuroprotek for almost four months. My son doesn't speak. however, i think we are seeing good things. for one, his obsessions have changed completely. he used to be obsessed with screens (computer, tv, ipod, etc) and now he really doesn't care at all about them. He is into water (flushing toilets, turning on taps, doing laundry). > > this is huge for us as his screen obsession started with his regression and hadn't let up since. > > also, he is sometimes echoing words at the end of a sentence, especially questions. so if you ask him 'do you want to play in the pool?' he'll say 'poo'. just yesterday he was watching a bit of toy story before he went to bed and he laughed at the right parts and then echoed two words said in the movie. A first! About a month ago he was eating and I sat down and said " hi " . He said " hi " back! We were both so stunned that we just stared open mouthed at each other. it was like he did it without even trying. > > we have noticed physical signs that ds seems to be suffering less from inflammation. > > we have done loads of biomed with my son, but he is severe and we have had far too many setbacks. it almost seems now, although i hesitate to say it, that gains he makes, although still slow, are sticking. this is what i had hoped neuroprotek would do, based on dr theoharides' lectures. > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > > > folks > > > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > > > boy...................... > > > > > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > > > stubbornness to start with! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > > > arguing > > > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 This is amazing Anita, so pleased. Vicky Re: update Neuroprotek That's fab news. Am so pleased for you and your family! You so deserve it K Xxxxx > > > > > > > > > > Great update Ann, thanks so much for this, very helpful when so many > > > > folks > > > > > starting out. Also thsi stubbornness, that's just normal teenage > > > > > boy...................... > > > > > > > > > > Mandi with 14,15 and 16 year old boys.............who have genetic > > > > > stubbornness to start with! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/07/2011 08:52:03 GMT Daylight Time, > > > > > ann.van.peteghem1@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > He is more willing to engage in a conversation, more babbling and > > > > arguing > > > > > with us, somewhat stubborn perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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