Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

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Lots of dogs have noise fear. In fact most of my agility friends dogs (because they are Border Collies) have issues and have had success with these. thundershirts (see link below) ... Owning hunting dogs I had a different issue... mine think thunder is shot guns and want to go outside to make sure they get the birds.. I show them once that it is just rain then they go back to bed.http://www.thundershirt.com/?utm_medium=affiliate & utm_campaign=googleaffiliatenetwork & utm_source=GAN_k303300judyFrom: Donna M-P To: exercisevideos ; FitFirmies Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 10:18:03 AMSubject: Monday - bike, pilates

Hi -Rough night last night - we had our first T-storm since the summer. My dog is petrified of t-storms so I had to take her out of the bedroom and sit up with her for awhile - it is so sad, she trembles, looks terrified and doesn't know what to do w/ herself in general. As a result, I was dragging butt this morning and opted for the recumbent bike instead of a FIRM workout - so I did 30 min on the recumbent followed by 20 min of stretching and Pilates type exercises w/ Caribbean workout (i like these for quick sessions that mix things up differently). Better than nothing and the bike makes me sweat b/c I go fast and vary the resistance from easy to hard. Tomorrow my plan is to do my Firm Turbocharge Cardio, 20 min of kickboxing w/ Violet Zaki and 20 min of Pilates w/ McGee! Hope everyone has a good Monday!Donna

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That's another similar thing/same concept. This was actually a vest with weights sewn in. The pressure on the muscles provides sensory input to the nervous system and helps the person (or animal) feel more "grounded" and, in many cases, more secure physically.

Monday - bike, pilates> > > > Hi -> > Rough night last night - we had our first T-storm since the summer. My dog is petrified of t-storms so I had to take her out of the bedroom and sit up with her for awhile - it is so sad, she trembles, looks terrified and doesn't know what to do w/ herself in general. As a result, I was dragging butt this morning and opted for the recumbent bike instead of a FIRM workout - so I did 30 min on the recumbent followed by 20 min of stretching and Pilates type exercises w/ Caribbean workout (i like these for quick sessions that mix things up differently). Better than nothing and the bike makes me sweat b/c I go fast and vary the resistance from easy to hard. > > Tomorrow my plan is to do my Firm Turbocharge Cardio, 20 min of kickboxing w/ Violet Zaki and 20 min of Pilates w/ McGee! > > Hope everyone has a good Monday!> > Donna>

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> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when

> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked

> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.

i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic

(i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she

built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling

anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put

into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during

vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her

life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense

to me.

:*carolyn.

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Yes, I've seen Temple Grandin's story and read things about her and written by her, quite the inspiring woman! Thanks for sharing this story, Carolyn!

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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oh i didn't know this thread was going there LOL. yes i have heard to temple

grandin. i might actually one of these days see the movie based on her

life(netflix and both libraries are on wait list for it). when i get more free

time to read i would love to get some of her books. so no giving away the big

plots LOL.

the " squeeze " thing i know is common with sensory integration but scientifically

i never learned it to explain it to ppl but viola loves " squeeze hugs " from dad.

he is the only one that can pull it off. we also have a habit of can't going to

sleep unless we are buried under all 200+ stuffed animals.

i am just starting to learn a little left/right brain stuff in reference to ADHD

but i think on some levels it applies to autism as well. all the balance and

unilateral exercises and stability ball. i talked to a lot of students at school

that have learning disabilities and have used these techniques to help them.

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Interesting! I'm going to give this Thundershirt a try - it is guaranteed so if it doesn't work I can always send it back. Knowing my weird dog, it will probably make her MORE anxious! But all the other 'remedies' seem to be sedatives and unless you wanted your dog to be doped up all the time, you would have to know when a t-storm was coming so as to get them medicated in time.

Donna

From: Festival City Concrete Ltd / & Carolyn Visser To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 1:13:38 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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We did a lot of right brain/left brain exercises with when he was young. He had terrible balance issues, couldn't cross over midline, had trouble with body in space issues (so the squeeze stuff really helped with that a lot). I think I've seen the Temple Grandin movie or at least I know I've seen parts of it. Fascinating stuff too. (For those that don't know, my almost 13 year old was diagnosed with sensory integration dysfunction when he was 5 and we went through several years of occupational and vision therapy to help him. He's doing extremely awesome now, was released from special education services earlier this school year even. Still has SID but it does not interfere in his functioning now, it did in a huge way when he was little, except that some of his behaviors still drive me nuts but no one else!)

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

oh i didn't know this thread was going there LOL. yes i have heard to temple grandin. i might actually one of these days see the movie based on her life(netflix and both libraries are on wait list for it). when i get more free time to read i would love to get some of her books. so no giving away the big plots LOL.the "squeeze" thing i know is common with sensory integration but scientifically i never learned it to explain it to ppl but viola loves "squeeze hugs" from dad. he is the only one that can pull it off. we also have a habit of can't going to sleep unless we are buried under all 200+ stuffed animals. i am just starting to learn a little left/right brain stuff in reference to ADHD but i think on some levels it applies to autism as well. all the balance and unilateral exercises and stability ball. i talked to a lot of students at school that have learning disabilities and have used these techniques to help them.

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It will be interesting to hear how it works, Donna! I should tell my best friend about this. She's a vet (with a scaredy cat dog). She might know but I'll pass it along anyway.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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Oh, please do! I'd love to hear what a vet thinks of these - actually, I will also ask my vet - I have to bring our cat in to have his stitches out this Friday.

Take care!Donna

To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:43:12 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

 It will be interesting to hear how it works, Donna! I should tell my best friend about this. She's a vet (with a scaredy cat dog). She might know but I'll pass it along anyway.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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Oh, I think our own kid's behavior will always drive us nuts!!!

To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:40:15 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

We did a lot of right brain/left brain exercises with when he was young. He had terrible balance issues, couldn't cross over midline, had trouble with body in space issues (so the squeeze stuff really helped with that a lot). I think I've seen the Temple Grandin movie or at least I know I've seen parts of it. Fascinating stuff too. (For those that don't know, my almost 13 year old was diagnosed with sensory integration dysfunction when he was 5 and we went through several years of occupational and vision therapy to help him. He's doing extremely awesome now, was released from special education services earlier this school year even. Still has SID but it does not interfere in his functioning now, it did in a huge way when he was little, except that some of his behaviors still drive me nuts but no one else!)

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

oh i didn't know this thread was going there LOL. yes i have heard to temple grandin. i might actually one of these days see the movie based on her life(netflix and both libraries are on wait list for it). when i get more free time to read i would love to get some of her books. so no giving away the big plots LOL.the "squeeze" thing i know is common with sensory integration but scientifically i never learned it to explain it to ppl but viola loves "squeeze hugs" from dad. he is the only one that can pull it off. we also have a habit of can't going to sleep unless we are buried under all 200+ stuffed animals. i am just starting to learn a little left/right brain stuff in reference to ADHD but i think on some levels it applies to autism as well. all the balance and unilateral exercises and stability ball. i talked to a lot of students at school that have learning disabilities and have used these techniques to help them.

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ITA!!!KASSIAwife,mother,student,kettlebellehttp://ldysolana.blogspot.com--- On Tue, 3/1/11, Donna M-P wrote

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yes! All dog people know temple.. she is so interesting..judyFrom: Festival City Concrete Ltd / & Carolyn Visser To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 1:13:38 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike,

pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when

> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked

> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.

i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic

(i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she

built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling

anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put

into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during

vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her

life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense

to me.

:*carolyn.

[Guest guest]

yes! All dog people know temple.. she is so interesting..judyFrom: Festival City Concrete Ltd / & Carolyn Visser To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 1:13:38 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike,

pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when

> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked

> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.

i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic

(i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she

built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling

anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put

into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during

vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her

life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense

to me.

:*carolyn.

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Donna.. please let me know how it works for you. One of my friends has a sheltie that runs agility fabulous at class but at trials stresses so much that the poor dog shuts down..doesn't run. He contemplated just retiring dog but got the thundershirt and the dog wears it at trial up to going into the ring.. the dog is now qualified for naitonals.. it was an amazing turnaround and the dog is so happy competing :)judyFrom: DeWolf

To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:43:12 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates



It will be interesting to hear how it works, Donna! I should tell my best friend about this. She's a vet (with a scaredy cat dog). She might know but I'll pass it along anyway.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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Donna.. please let me know how it works for you. One of my friends has a sheltie that runs agility fabulous at class but at trials stresses so much that the poor dog shuts down..doesn't run. He contemplated just retiring dog but got the thundershirt and the dog wears it at trial up to going into the ring.. the dog is now qualified for naitonals.. it was an amazing turnaround and the dog is so happy competing :)judyFrom: DeWolf

To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:43:12 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates



It will be interesting to hear how it works, Donna! I should tell my best friend about this. She's a vet (with a scaredy cat dog). She might know but I'll pass it along anyway.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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fyi---- many vets have little knowledge of dog/animal behavior or training.. it is funny as my vet sometimes comes to me for advice regarding client dogs :)judyTo: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:50:25 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs

and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

Oh, please do! I'd love to hear what a vet thinks of these - actually, I will also ask my vet - I have to bring our cat in to have his stitches out this Friday.

Take care!Donna

To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:43:12 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

 It will be interesting to hear how it works, Donna! I should tell my best friend about this. She's a vet (with a scaredy cat dog). She might know but I'll pass it along anyway.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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fyi---- many vets have little knowledge of dog/animal behavior or training.. it is funny as my vet sometimes comes to me for advice regarding client dogs :)judyTo: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:50:25 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs

and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

Oh, please do! I'd love to hear what a vet thinks of these - actually, I will also ask my vet - I have to bring our cat in to have his stitches out this Friday.

Take care!Donna

To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:43:12 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

 It will be interesting to hear how it works, Donna! I should tell my best friend about this. She's a vet (with a scaredy cat dog). She might know but I'll pass it along anyway.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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Just another thought as I looked at the website... I'm not sure if these work (or at least they say they do) because of the way they're strapped on or because of the weight of the vest or both. The website isn't clear about that at all. I would wonder if they're relying on the pressure and that if it really is continuous even with a dog moving about possibly loosening the velcro. Anyway, I sent my friend and email and will let you know what she says.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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I have heard that, my girl friend does try to keep up on this stuff though. She still might not be aware of it though.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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Interesting!! You think they would know that stuff - :)Donna

To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 9:18:06 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

fyi---- many vets have little knowledge of dog/animal behavior or training.. it is funny as my vet sometimes comes to me for advice regarding client dogs :)judy

To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:50:25 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

Oh, please do! I'd love to hear what a vet thinks of these - actually, I will also ask my vet - I have to bring our cat in to have his stitches out this Friday.

Take care!Donna

To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 8:43:12 AMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates



It will be interesting to hear how it works, Donna! I should tell my best friend about this. She's a vet (with a scaredy cat dog). She might know but I'll pass it along anyway.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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Nah, a lot of vets just focus on the medical issues themselves and not necessarily behavioral stuff.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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Oh, I guess that is true and I guess M.D. are probably similar in that regard also.

Take care!Donna

To: exercisevideos Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 6:37:31 PMSubject: Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

 Nah, a lot of vets just focus on the medical issues themselves and not necessarily behavioral stuff.

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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Yep. When we weren't sure what was going on with DS when he was little, our ped sent us to a behavioral ped. Our doc is awesome but she felt like a behavioral ped would be able to not only diagnose possible medical issues but especially help us with parenting/behavioral issues as necessary. (That doc helped us some, gave us some good ideas but mostly told us to keep doing what we were already doing, which was reassuring too since we thought we were doing okay but also felt so lost, she especially helped because she noticed a lot of motor issues and sent us for OT and PT evaluations and that's what eventually led to the sensory diagnosis.)

Re: OT- dogs and thunderstorms...Monday - bike, pilates

> This is great! We used a weighted vest to help our son calm when> he was little and sensory issues were out of control. It worked> great for him and I'd bet it works with animals too.i dont know if you have heard of temple grandin, who is autistic (i do know that kassia knows who temple grandin is!) but she built herself a squeeze box which she would enter when feeling anxious. she had noticed that cows would become placid when put into an apparatus which held them still (squeezed them) during vet work. after reading her book and seeing the movie about her life, the vest (for both humans and canines) makes perfect sense to me.:*carolyn.

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> yes! All dog people know temple.. she is so interesting..

she is fascinating... really remarkable. she is coming to our

small canadian city to speak publicly and im mad because tickets

sold out in minutes, so i cannot go and see her. oh well, i

hope that her speech makes some impact on the treatment of farm

animals in these parts. she has done so much revolutionary work

in that area.

:*carolyn.