migraines

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MIGRAINES

Cheryl, aged 39, had suffered from chronic severe migraine headaches during

the 3 weeks before menstruation ever since her periods started at age 11.

For some time, she had been using birth control pills to regulate her period

and Imitrex (a conventional drug) to subdue her migraines. However, this

drug left her constantly fatigued and did not quell all the migraine

symptoms, Cheryl told Ellen W. Cutler, D.C., chiropractor, nutritionist, and

director of the Tamalpais Pain Clinic in Corte Madera, California. Cheryl’s

skin color was poor and looked devitalized, Dr. Cutler noted.

Dr. Cutler used muscle response testing (also called applied kinesiology)

and a 24-hour urine analysis to test Cheryl for imbalances in her digestion

and nutrient assimilation as well as for shortages in key enzymes. When she

discovered that Cheryl’s system was intolerant to sugars, Dr. Cutler

prescribed an enzyme mixture to rebalance this. In addition, the muscle

response testing revealed that Cheryl was allergic to a long list of foods,

including salt, vinegar, ascorbic acid, lactose, and certain fruits. She was

also allergic to alcohol, the hormones progesterone and adrenalin, thyroid

extract, and radiation.

Using an innovative approach called the Nambudripad Allergy Elimination

Technique (N.A.E.T.), Dr. Cutler desensitized Cheryl’s nervous system so

that it would not stage an allergic reaction to these substances, which had

been producing her migraines. It took about 3 months, after which Cheryl had

complete relief from her symptoms.

Dr. Cutler also put Cheryl on a Systemic Formula called Ga Adrenal

containing adrenal and spleen glandular factors, Echinacea, selenium, zinc,

inositol, vitamin C and vitamin B complex, to be taken at the dosage of 2-6

pills in the morning. She had Cheryl apply a progesterone cream to her

temples and the back of her head, knowing that her allergy to progesterone

actually indicated a deficiency of it in her system. In addition, Cheryl

took both vitamin C (3000 mg daily) and evening primrose oil, on the days

between ovulation and the start of her period.

Once taking these, Cheryl had no further migraines and was able to

discontinue the Imitrex. “The last time Cheryl came to see us, she wore

bright colors and looked vibrant and happy,” says Dr. Cutler. “For the first

time in years, she didn’t have a PMS headache.”

SOURCE Patient records of Ellen W. Cutler, D.C., Tamalpais Pain Clinic, 770

Tamalpais Drive, Suite 203, Corte Madera, CA 94925; tel: ; fax:

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[Guest guest]

So, I’ve

been doing the migraine protocol thing from JimJax with the L-Tryptophan, and B’s

for about 3 months now.  It is not helping so far.  Is that because mine are

hormonal?  I do get them other than with TOM, but ALWAYS with TOM.  It is very

rare that I don’t have one then.  I also get them at ovulation about ¾

of the time and only rarely other than that.  I’ve tried

progesterone and the like with no relief.  I feel I have my other hormones

pretty well striaght – just some tweaking needs to be done.  The only

things I have taken that help are my Zomig (or Imitrex) or Excedrine Migraine.  Either

way though, after the migraine is gone, I feel wonky for about a day.  Don’t

know if it’s the med or the migraine that does that.

Anyway…

haven’t been online much coz I’ve been so busy!  School and

baseball and 3 kids keeps me on my toes.  I’ve felt really pretty good

for the last few weeks, until today and this darn migraine!

Any

thoughts are appreciated…

[Guest guest]

autonomic dysfunction can cause migraine type headaches - which is dysfunctional bc of underlying hormonal issues which ofcourse are routinely caused by infection.Dr Teitelbaum is a CFS/FM doc and he has many good articles on his site on this stuff:http://www.endfatigue.com/general_health_issues/health_h.html#Headacheshope that helps,katSubject: migrainesTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 12:33 AM

So, I’ve

been doing the migraine protocol thing from JimJax with the L-Tryptophan, and B’s

for about 3 months now. It is not helping so far. Is that because mine are

hormonal? I do get them other than with TOM, but ALWAYS with TOM. It is very

rare that I don’t have one then. I also get them at ovulation about ¾

of the time and only rarely other than that. I’ve tried

progesterone and the like with no relief. I feel I have my other hormones

pretty well striaght – just some tweaking needs to be done. The only

things I have taken that help are my Zomig (or Imitrex) or Excedrine Migraine. Either

way though, after the migraine is gone, I feel wonky for about a day. Don’t

know if it’s the med or the migraine that does that. Anyway…

haven’t been online much coz I’ve been so busy! School and

baseball and 3 kids keeps me on my toes. I’ve felt really pretty good

for the last few weeks, until today and this darn migraine! Any

thoughts are appreciated…

[Guest guest]

http://www.caringmedical.com/symptoms/condition.asp?condition_id=1038

One of my doctors view of migraines. Sometimes solvable with prolotherapy.

>

> So, I've been doing the migraine protocol thing from JimJax with the

> L-Tryptophan, and B's for about 3 months now. It is not helping so far. Is

> that because mine are hormonal? I do get them other than with TOM, but

> ALWAYS with TOM. It is very rare that I don't have one then. I also get

> them at ovulation about ¾ of the time and only rarely other than that. I've

> tried progesterone and the like with no relief. I feel I have my other

> hormones pretty well striaght – just some tweaking needs to be done. The

> only things I have taken that help are my Zomig (or Imitrex) or Excedrine

> Migraine. Either way though, after the migraine is gone, I feel wonky for

> about a day. Don't know if it's the med or the migraine that does that.

>

>

>

> Anyway… haven't been online much coz I've been so busy! School and baseball

> and 3 kids keeps me on my toes. I've felt really pretty good for the last

> few weeks, until today and this darn migraine!

>

>

>

> Any thoughts are appreciated…

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mine went away when I started killing Lyme and co. JoyceFrom: <vegasmomof3@ cox.net>Subject: migrainesTo: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comDate:

Saturday, August 29, 2009, 12:33 AM

So, I’ve

been doing the migraine protocol thing from JimJax with the L-Tryptophan, and B’s

for about 3 months now. It is not helping so far. Is that because mine are

hormonal? I do get them other than with TOM, but ALWAYS with TOM. It is very

rare that I don’t have one then. I also get them at ovulation about ¾

of the time and only rarely other than that. I’ve tried

progesterone and the like with no relief. I feel I have my other hormones

pretty well striaght – just some tweaking needs to be done. The only

things I have taken that help are my Zomig (or Imitrex) or Excedrine Migraine. Either

way though, after the migraine is gone, I feel wonky for about a day. Don’t

know if it’s the med or the migraine that does that. Anyway…

haven’t been online much coz I’ve been so busy! School and

baseball and 3 kids keeps me on my toes. I’ve felt really pretty good

for the last few weeks, until today and this darn migraine! Any

thoughts are appreciated…

[Guest guest]

Very interesting articles you ‘guys’

sent to me.

So, further questions/comments… 

Katerina – How do you fix the

dysfunction?  ‘I know kill the bugs’ if that is the underlying issue. 

Does he suggest any therapies?

Joyce – I’ve been doing salt/c

for almost a year, so I’ve started the killing process with no change in

migraines.  Only started the large doses about 4-5 months ago.

My hormones are pretty stable and good at

this point as far as I can tell.  I feel pretty good.  I’ve been thinking

because of the change in hormones with TOM, that the bugs get active.  I

usually feel terrible with the moon cycle, often times getting a migraine then

as well.  But how does Excedrine Migraine (or Zomig) stop that?  I took my

Excedrine last night and the headache was gone in an hour.

As far as ’s article, I take

600mg magnesium a day and have for a few months.  I get several of the auras it

listed – severe

craving for food/sweets, dizziness, irritablility, thirst.  I had heard of

prolotherapy, but didn’t really know what it was.  I do get the neck pain

as an aura so this could certainly be an option for me.  I’ve suspected a

low progesterone issue, and have take progesterone with no change in anything.

Lot’s to consider.  Lyme/co’s could cause any and all of

the issues brought up, so I’m glad I’m doing something about that. 

Working on the hormones – got most of them straight now, so just doing

some tweaking at this point.  Ugh.

So until I fix the underlying issue

(whatever that may be for me) is there some better way of treating it?  I hate

to take the meds (Excedrine/Zomig), but the L-Tryptophan protocol isn’t

working for me.  I can up my magnesium to see if that helps.  I do usually have

a BIG craving for chocolate when I get an aura (lots of magnesium in chocolate),

so that could certainly be a big issue for me.  Any other natural migraine

treatments?

Thanks so much for all your

comments/suggestions.  I will be experimenting with what I can!

From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of joyce la fleur

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:40

PM

To: Lyme_and_Rife

Subject: Re:

migraines

Mine went away when I started killing Lyme and co.

Joyce

From: <vegasmomof3@ cox.net>

Subject: migraines

To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 12:33 AM

So, I’ve been doing the migraine protocol thing from JimJax

with the L-Tryptophan, and B’s for about 3 months now. It is not

helping so far. Is that because mine are hormonal? I do get them other than

with TOM, but ALWAYS with TOM. It is very rare that I don’t have one

then. I also get them at ovulation about ¾ of the time and only

rarely other than that. I’ve tried progesterone and the like with no

relief. I feel I have my other hormones pretty well striaght – just

some tweaking needs to be done. The only things I have taken that help are

my Zomig (or Imitrex) or Excedrine Migraine. Either way though, after the

migraine is gone, I feel wonky for about a day. Don’t know if

it’s the med or the migraine that does that.

Anyway… haven’t been online much coz I’ve been so

busy! School and baseball and 3 kids keeps me on my toes. I’ve felt

really pretty good for the last few weeks, until today and this darn

migraine!

Any thoughts are appreciated…

[Guest guest]

I believe the bugs are the core of the problem that mess up the pituitary and hence your hormones. For the time being, autonomic dysfunction can be helped by drinking sea salt water and increasing your water intake overall.Dr T explains here:http://www.endfatigue.com/health_articles_c/Cfs_fm-treating_low_blood_volume_and_heart.htmlkat--- Subject: RE: migrainesTo: Lyme_and_Rife Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 2:47 PM

Very interesting articles you ‘guys’

sent to me. So, further questions/comments… Katerina – How do you fix the

dysfunction? ‘I know kill the bugs’ if that is the underlying issue. Does he suggest any therapies? Joyce – I’ve been doing salt/c

for almost a year, so I’ve started the killing process with no change in

migraines. Only started the large doses about 4-5 months ago. My hormones are pretty stable and good at

this point as far as I can tell. I feel pretty good. I’ve been thinking

because of the change in hormones with TOM, that the bugs get active. I

usually feel terrible with the moon cycle, often times getting a migraine then

as well. But how does Excedrine Migraine (or Zomig) stop that? I took my

Excedrine last night and the headache was gone in an hour. As far as ’s article, I take

600mg magnesium a day and have for a few months. I get several of the auras it

listed – severe

craving for food/sweets, dizziness, irritablility, thirst. I had heard of

prolotherapy, but didn’t really know what it was. I do get the neck pain

as an aura so this could certainly be an option for me. I’ve suspected a

low progesterone issue, and have take progesterone with no change in anything. Lot’s to consider. Lyme/co’s could cause any and all of

the issues brought up, so I’m glad I’m doing something about that. Working on the hormones – got most of them straight now, so just doing

some tweaking at this point. Ugh.. So until I fix the underlying issue

(whatever that may be for me) is there some better way of treating it? I hate

to take the meds (Excedrine/Zomig) , but the L-Tryptophan protocol isn’t

working for me. I can up my magnesium to see if that helps. I do usually have

a BIG craving for chocolate when I get an aura (lots of magnesium in chocolate),

so that could certainly be a big issue for me. Any other natural migraine

treatments? Thanks so much for all your

comments/suggestion s. I will be experimenting with what I can!

From: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of joyce la fleur

Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:40

PM

To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re:

migraines

Mine went away when I started killing Lyme and co.

Joyce

From: <vegasmomof3@ cox.net>

Subject: migraines

To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 12:33 AM

So, I’ve been doing the migraine protocol thing from JimJax

with the L-Tryptophan, and B’s for about 3 months now. It is not

helping so far. Is that because mine are hormonal? I do get them other than

with TOM, but ALWAYS with TOM. It is very rare that I don’t have one

then. I also get them at ovulation about ¾ of the time and only

rarely other than that. I’ve tried progesterone and the like with no

relief. I feel I have my other hormones pretty well striaght – just

some tweaking needs to be done. The only things I have taken that help are

my Zomig (or Imitrex) or Excedrine Migraine. Either way though, after the

migraine is gone, I feel wonky for about a day. Don’t know if

it’s the med or the migraine that does that. Anyway… haven’t been online much coz I’ve been so

busy! School and baseball and 3 kids keeps me on my toes. I’ve felt

really pretty good for the last few weeks, until today and this darn

migraine! Any thoughts are appreciated…

[Guest guest]

I drink about a gallon of prilled water

every day – for real I drink at least a gallon.  Plus I take about 1 ½ tsp

salt mixed into water every day, which is about 15g.  Been doing those things

for several months.  No change in the severity or frequency of the migraines.  When

I first started taking that much salt, the migraines got worse – may have

been some other factor.  Now they are back to ‘normal’ for me.

I have been taking hormone replacement for

adrenals and thyroid for about a year now.  I feel really good.  Things aren’t

perfect, but I can function pretty well now!  At this point, I’m just

trying to tweak my doses to get the perfect dose for me – and that can

change from day to day I know!  The biggest issue I have at this point is the

migraines.  The other issues I have are minor and not debilitating!  As I said,

I have suspected an issue with progesterone, but haven’t found relief

when I’ve taken it.

I think Dr. T’s ‘SHINE’

protocol is fantastic!  It really takes everything into consideration and

treats it all!  I love that.  I keep finding that taking that type of approach

gets the best results.  Dr. Christ, Dr. Mark Hyman and now Dr. T all take this

type of approach.  I really think it’s the best way.  I’m doing as

much of that as I can, so I’m on my way.  Just haven’t figured out

the migraine part!

From: Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On Behalf Of Katerina Papageorgios

Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009

8:44 AM

To: Lyme_and_Rife

Subject: RE:

migraines

I believe the bugs are the core of the problem that

mess up the pituitary and hence your hormones. For the time being, autonomic

dysfunction can be helped by drinking sea salt water and increasing your

water intake overall.

Dr T explains here:

http://www.endfatigue.com/health_articles_c/Cfs_fm-treating_low_blood_volume_and_heart.html

kat

From: <vegasmomof3@ cox.net>

Subject: migraines

To: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 12:33 AM

So, I’ve been doing the migraine protocol thing from JimJax

with the L-Tryptophan, and B’s for about 3 months now. It is not

helping so far. Is that because mine are hormonal? I do get them other

than with TOM, but ALWAYS with TOM. It is very rare that I don’t

have one then. I also get them at ovulation about ¾ of the

time and only rarely other than that. I’ve tried progesterone and

the like with no relief. I feel I have my other hormones pretty well

striaght – just some tweaking needs to be done. The only things I

have taken that help are my Zomig (or Imitrex) or Excedrine Migraine.

Either way though, after the migraine is gone, I feel wonky for about a

day. Don’t know if it’s the med or the migraine that does

that.

Anyway… haven’t been online much coz I’ve been

so busy! School and baseball and 3 kids keeps me on my toes. I’ve

felt really pretty good for the last few weeks, until today and this darn

migraine!

Any thoughts are appreciated…

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Do you know if your Gallbladder is up to snuff? I think its chinese medicine that has found a link between migraines and a poor functioning gall bladder. Not sure how this is remedied aside from maybe a series of liver flushes. Just a thought for you as you rule out causes...

Thane

From: <vegasmomof3@ cox.net>Subject: migrainesTo: Lyme_and_Rife@ yahoogroups. comDate: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 12:33 AM

So, I’ve been doing the migraine protocol thing from JimJax with the L-Tryptophan, and B’s for about 3 months now. It is not helping so far. Is that because mine are hormonal? I do get them other than with TOM, but ALWAYS with TOM. It is very rare that I don’t have one then. I also get them at ovulation about ¾ of the time and only rarely other than that. I’ve tried progesterone and the like with no relief. I feel I have my other hormones pretty well striaght – just some tweaking needs to be done. The only things I have taken that help are my Zomig (or Imitrex) or Excedrine Migraine. Either way though, after the migraine is gone, I feel wonky for about a day. Don’t know if it’s the med or the migraine that does that.

Anyway… haven’t been online much coz I’ve been so busy! School and baseball and 3 kids keeps me on my toes. I’ve felt really pretty good for the last few weeks, until today and this darn migraine!

Any thoughts are appreciated…