Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Thank you for the information, and yes the water has floride, chlorine you name it. I feel like stress in my life is a huge harmful factor and there is nothing I can do about that though except my reaction, I am trying but in the situation I ma in its very difficult no to become distraught. Elaine > I hope you don't mind me saying that if you want to look this intestinal > condition up in a book it will be referred to as Crohn's Disease. > in ER4YT, TWO CASE histories are mentioned,one with type O, blood and > another with type B, both are on entirely different diets. > I was once diagnosed as once having a 'duodenal ulcer''Ihad to > rest for half an hour after a meal.and eat something every time my 'hunger > pains ' came on. > I THINK THAT I should have bought shares in 'Rennies'! BECAUSE I > could not go to work without some in my bag. > By chance I READ A leaflet from an anti-flouride group, about how > flouride can affect the body in different ways! > We were all using this stuff,after WE GAVE IT UP ,I NOW USE a clour-free > non-flouride toothpaste, and gradually ,my tummy has improved. > If you live in an area where the WATER CONTAINS FLOURIDE , YOU will > need a proper water filter which is specially made to remove this > substance.It cannot be 'boiled off',- boiling only concentrates the > flouride. Yours sincerly. > Elaine > > > > > > > >Reply-To: mscuredegroups > >To: <mscuredegroups> > >Subject: Re: Steroid replacement > >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:08:10 -0500 > > > >hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the two were related > >somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess intestinally, pollup > >(removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no better red inflamed > >stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! I cannot afford to > >have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. > >I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to reduce the acid my > >stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, meds do help for > >this. supposed to go back next month and see how its going do those awful > >tests in another three to six months. I have no idea what to eat or what > >not > >to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting right now. > >I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats one of the things I > >can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well forget it. > >Its all so discouraging. > >Elaine > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~I was 52 when I was officially diagnosed in 1997 and 48 when > >I > > > got my first symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 Dear Elaine, You mentioned STRESS in your recent e-mail.Have you tried the yoga breathing exercise? involves taking a deep breath and holding it for a count of 3-6. then releasing it for the same amount of time,repeat a couple of times , until you feel better. If you are mobile,it may help to go through all the muscles in your body , tightening them up and then loosening them, this can help relax you. If you havea video,a group which I BELONG to.suggests that a tape of your favorite program or film may also help. On the subject of steroids,I was always quite well when Iwas younger, apart from the fwe times that I mentioned.There were no drugs for M.S., after MY SON was born , I breast-fed him for 3MONTHS. Idon't know whether this helped stabilise the brief outburst,that occurred after he was born,ortaking him out for walks, But my M.S.symptoms faded away,for many years.apart from tiredness if I overdid it or the ocassional weak ankle Elaine K. > >Reply-To: mscuredegroups >To: <mscuredegroups> >Subject: Re: Steroid replacement >Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:20:59 -0500 > >Thank you for the information, and yes the water has floride, chlorine you >name it. >I feel like stress in my life is a huge harmful factor and there is nothing >I can do about that though except my reaction, I am trying but in the >situation I ma in its very difficult no to become distraught. >Elaine > > > I hope you don't mind me saying that if you want to look this intestinal > > condition up in a book it will be referred to as Crohn's Disease. > > in ER4YT, TWO CASE histories are mentioned,one with type O, blood >and > > another with type B, both are on entirely different diets. > > I was once diagnosed as once having a 'duodenal ulcer''Ihad to > > rest for half an hour after a meal.and eat something every time my >'hunger > > pains ' came on. > > I THINK THAT I should have bought shares in 'Rennies'! BECAUSE I > > could not go to work without some in my bag. > > By chance I READ A leaflet from an anti-flouride group, about how > > flouride can affect the body in different ways! > > We were all using this stuff,after WE GAVE IT UP ,I NOW USE a >clour-free > > non-flouride toothpaste, and gradually ,my tummy has improved. > > If you live in an area where the WATER CONTAINS FLOURIDE , YOU will > > need a proper water filter which is specially made to remove this > > substance.It cannot be 'boiled off',- boiling only concentrates the > > flouride. Yours sincerly. > > Elaine > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply-To: mscuredegroups > > >To: <mscuredegroups> > > >Subject: Re: Steroid replacement > > >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:08:10 -0500 > > > > > >hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the two were related > > >somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess intestinally, >pollup > > >(removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no better red inflamed > > >stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! I cannot afford >to > > >have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. > > >I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to reduce the acid >my > > >stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, meds do help >for > > >this. supposed to go back next month and see how its going do those >awful > > >tests in another three to six months. I have no idea what to eat or >what > > >not > > >to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting right now. > > >I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats one of the >things >I > > >can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well forget it. > > >Its all so discouraging. > > >Elaine > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~I was 52 when I was officially diagnosed in 1997 and 48 >when > > >I > > > > got my first symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 Dear Llllian, Thanksfor your notes on diet.The notes which I sent regarding the ' 'Eat Right for your type diet,'have extra notes for people with 'auto-immune diseases'Which also recommends no milk or DAIRY PRODUCE either. Could the diet in NATURE been the Swank DIET, FOR WHICH enter SWANK DIET IN YOUR SEARCH ENGINE. By the Way CHICKEN IS A NO-NO IF you are blood group B or AB, AS IT 'CONTAINS lectins which attack the immune system,' ADIFFERENT LIST of foods is printed fof each Blood Group.Some 200 foods have been tested altogether . There are also some chapters on the FOODS TO AVOID IF YOU WANT TO ESCAPE 'heredity cancer;' yours sincerly ELAINE KELLY . > >Reply-To: mscuredegroups >To: mscuredegroups >Subject: Re: Steroid replacement >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:18:26 -0600 > >Dear Elaine, >All of you have been exchanging information about what works for you, >or doesn't. Dr. Nieper said, " No dairy. " He mentioned that he >observed that places in the world where milk was a common beverage has >more MS cases and he read an article in the '70's in Nature I think >which implicated glutenes in milk in MS. I have never seen that >article personally. He forbid his patients to eat any cheese except a >highly fermented Camembert type. He forbid other things like >chlorinated and fluoridated water, and distilled water, and foods or >beverages containing phosphoric acid such as colas. He recommended a >normal, balanced diet containing much raw vegetables, not too salty. >All sorts of herbal teas, especially hibiscus teas; from time to time >champagne -- " its carbon dioxide tends to eliminate headaches and >vessel spasms in MS patients; " and he recommended walking and exercise >whenever possible. The Do's and Don'ts list is 2 pages long and >available from our library along with other things Dr. Nieper wrote. > >If you tried the " Breaking the Vicious Cycle " diet you might have to >modify it further because of what you already know you can and cannot >eat. Each one of us has to listen to our body and some people have >many more allergies or sensitivities than others. I read that leaky >gut problems lead to food sensitivities and these can become serious >allergies. One of the most severe allergy reactions is the >anaphylactic reaction where you feel like your throat is swelling >shut, and it can be life threatening. So, if this book is helpful it >may prevent further problems from developing. I hope it helps you. > >Lillian Hanke > >Elaine wrote: > > > Thank you so much, I REALLY appreciate it so much. I do need > > direction on this badly. Now is this diet comparable to what the MS > > diet should be??Thank you!!Elaine > > > > Re: Steroid replacement > > Dear Elaine, > > There is a book which may be helpful to you entitled, > > Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Intestinal Health Through Diet > > by Elaine Gottschall B.A., M. Sc. On the cover it says: > > " Diet for Crohn's Disease, ulcerative colitis, > > diverticulosis, celiac disease, cystic fibrosis, and > > chronic diarrhea. " The book contains 75 pages of recipes > > for the special diet it recommends. The book might be > > available in a major bookstore or from Amazon.com. If > > not, it costs $16.95 plus $4.00 for mailing costs and can > > be ordered from: > > The Kirkton Press > > R.R. 1, Kirkton, Ontario > > Canada N0K 1K0 > > Tel. > > Fax > > > > I would highly recommend that you take a look at this > > book. > > > > Lillian Hanke > > Librarian > > > > > > Cah819@... wrote: > > > > > Elaine, > > > > > > << <tt> > > > hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the > > > two were related > > > somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess > > > intestinally, pollup > > > (removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no > > > better red inflamed > > > stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! > > > I cannot afford to > > > have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. > > > I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to > > > reduce the acid my > > > stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, > > > meds do help for > > > this. supposed to go back next month and see how its > > > going do those awful > > > tests in another three to six months. I have no idea > > > what to eat or what not > > > to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting > > > right now. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~I thought it was this list that we were just > > > 'talking' about this > > > stomach acid thing, but maybe it wasn't. I hate to > > > repeat myself, if it was. > > > I had the same types of problems for years and years and > > > took all the acid > > > blockers too. Please read this article with an open > > > mind. I didn't believe > > > it at first, because of what the doctors had been > > > telling me for years, but > > > finally I tried the HCl and I no longer have any > > > problems with acid. Where > > > did you get that those with MS shouldn't eat chicken? I > > > never heard of such > > > a thing. Type B blood types are not supposed to eat > > > chicken and people with > > > MS should only eat the white meat, because of the > > > saturated fat in the dark > > > meat, but it should be fine for us to eat. Beef should > > > be out, because of > > > the high sat. fat content alone. I'm just going to give > > > you a link to an > > > explanation of stomach acid problems. > > > > > > <A HREF= " http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm " > > > > http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm</A> > > > > > > > > > I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats > > > one of the things I > > > can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well > > > forget it. > > > Its all so discouraging. > > > Elaine >> > > > > > > > > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 Elaine, Where did you get the info on ER4YT for auto immune diseases? Carol Re: Steroid replacement > > Dear Elaine, > > There is a book which may be helpful to you entitled, > > Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Intestinal Health Through Diet > > by Elaine Gottschall B.A., M. Sc. On the cover it says: > > & quot;Diet for Crohn's Disease, ulcerative colitis, > > diverticulosis, celiac disease, cystic fibrosis, and > > chronic diarrhea. & quot; The book contains 75 pages of recipes > > for the special diet it recommends. The book might be > > available in a major bookstore or from Amazon.com. If > > not, it costs $16.95 plus $4.00 for mailing costs and can > > be ordered from: > > The Kirkton Press > > R.R. 1, Kirkton, Ontario > > Canada N0K 1K0 > > Tel. > > Fax > > > > I would highly recommend that you take a look at this > > book. > > > > Lillian Hanke > > Librarian > > > > > > Cah819@... wrote: > > > > > Elaine, > > > > > > << <tt> > > > hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the > > > two were related > > > somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess > > > intestinally, pollup > > > (removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no > > > better red inflamed > > > stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! > > > I cannot afford to > > > have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. > > > I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to > > > reduce the acid my > > > stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, > > > meds do help for > > > this. supposed to go back next month and see how its > > > going do those awful > > > tests in another three to six months. I have no idea > > > what to eat or what not > > > to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting > > > right now. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~I thought it was this list that we were just > > > 'talking' about this > > > stomach acid thing, but maybe it wasn't. I hate to > > > repeat myself, if it was. > > > I had the same types of problems for years and years and > > > took all the acid > > > blockers too. Please read this article with an open > > > mind. I didn't believe > > > it at first, because of what the doctors had been > > > telling me for years, but > > > finally I tried the HCl and I no longer have any > > > problems with acid. Where > > > did you get that those with MS shouldn't eat chicken? I > > > never heard of such > > > a thing. Type B blood types are not supposed to eat > > > chicken and people with > > > MS should only eat the white meat, because of the > > > saturated fat in the dark > > > meat, but it should be fine for us to eat. Beef should > > > be out, because of > > > the high sat. fat content alone. I'm just going to give > > > you a link to an > > > explanation of stomach acid problems. > > > > > > <A HREF= & quot;http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm & quot;> > > > http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm</A> > > > > > > > > > I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats > > > one of the things I > > > can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well > > > forget it. > > > Its all so discouraging. > > > Elaine >> > > > > > > > > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2001 Report Share Posted February 4, 2001 Dear Carol, There are two editions of the 'Eat Right For Your Type Diet',one is in hardback with this title,and the other is in Paperback, but called 'The Eat Right Diet', bothare by Dr. d'Adamo. published by Century Books in most English-speaking countries. also at W.H.SMITH BOOKSELLERS and at <amazon.co.uk> tHE advantage of the Hsrdback copy is that it has an INDEX in which you can look things up. but the info. seems the same in both. more info is on ,<www.dadamo .com> HOPE THAT THIS HELPS, Elaine > >Reply-To: mscured >To: <mscured > >Subject: Re: Steroid replacement >Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:24:15 -0800 > >Elaine, >Where did you get the info on ER4YT for auto immune diseases? >Carol > Re: Steroid replacement > > > Dear Elaine, > > > There is a book which may be helpful to you entitled, > > > Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Intestinal Health Through Diet > > > by Elaine Gottschall B.A., M. Sc. On the cover it says: > > > & quot;Diet for Crohn's Disease, ulcerative colitis, > > > diverticulosis, celiac disease, cystic fibrosis, and > > > chronic diarrhea. & quot; The book contains 75 pages of recipes > > > for the special diet it recommends. The book might be > > > available in a major bookstore or from Amazon.com. If > > > not, it costs $16.95 plus $4.00 for mailing costs and can > > > be ordered from: > > > The Kirkton Press > > > R.R. 1, Kirkton, Ontario > > > Canada N0K 1K0 > > > Tel. > > > Fax > > > > > > I would highly recommend that you take a look at this > > > book. > > > > > > Lillian Hanke > > > Librarian > > > > > > > > > Cah819@... wrote: > > > > > > > Elaine, > > > > > > > > << <tt> > > > > hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the > > > > two were related > > > > somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess > > > > intestinally, pollup > > > > (removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no > > > > better red inflamed > > > > stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! > > > > I cannot afford to > > > > have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. > > > > I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to > > > > reduce the acid my > > > > stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, > > > > meds do help for > > > > this. supposed to go back next month and see how its > > > > going do those awful > > > > tests in another three to six months. I have no idea > > > > what to eat or what not > > > > to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting > > > > right now. > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~I thought it was this list that we were just > > > > 'talking' about this > > > > stomach acid thing, but maybe it wasn't. I hate to > > > > repeat myself, if it was. > > > > I had the same types of problems for years and years and > > > > took all the acid > > > > blockers too. Please read this article with an open > > > > mind. I didn't believe > > > > it at first, because of what the doctors had been > > > > telling me for years, but > > > > finally I tried the HCl and I no longer have any > > > > problems with acid. Where > > > > did you get that those with MS shouldn't eat chicken? I > > > > never heard of such > > > > a thing. Type B blood types are not supposed to eat > > > > chicken and people with > > > > MS should only eat the white meat, because of the > > > > saturated fat in the dark > > > > meat, but it should be fine for us to eat. Beef should > > > > be out, because of > > > > the high sat. fat content alone. I'm just going to give > > > > you a link to an > > > > explanation of stomach acid problems. > > > > > > > > <A HREF= & quot;http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm & quot;> > > > > http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm</A> > > > > > > > > > > > > I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats > > > > one of the things I > > > > can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well > > > > forget it. > > > > Its all so discouraging. > > > > Elaine >> > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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