Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 << There must be some kind of herb or natural treatment that either acts like steroids or stimulates the body's own steroid prodution, so that we can get the anti-inflamatory benefits of steroids without the horrible side effects. Anyone know? >> Cat's claw is a natural anti inflammatory. AJ takes a version of it which she finds really good. If she has a bad day or has a weird symptom she takes this stuff and feels better within an hour or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 garnet prah, try ayurveda or noni juice, they both help me. lots of things to try. have to see what works for you. Its ice to stop relapse's. well, most of them. subi > >Reply-To: mscuredegroups >To: mscuredegroups >Subject: Steroid replacement >Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:37:42 -0800 (PST) > >There must be some kind of herb or natural treatment >that either acts like steroids or stimulates the >body's own steroid prodution, so that we can get the >anti-inflamatory benefits of steroids without the >horrible side effects. Anyone know? > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 There is DHEA, a supplement, which technically is a steroid. --- Original Message --- Garnet Prah Wrote on Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:37:42 -0800 (PST) ------------------ There must be some kind of herb or natural treatment that either acts like steroids or stimulates the body's own steroid prodution, so that we can get the anti-inflamatory benefits of steroids without the horrible side effects. Anyone know? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 In a message dated 1/5/01 1:53:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, blackcrowgirl@... writes: > There must be some kind of herb or natural treatment > that either acts like steroids or stimulates the > body's own steroid prodution, so that we can get the > anti-inflamatory benefits of steroids without the > horrible side effects. Anyone know? > Hi, I am doing bee stings which is supposed to stimulate the whole system to work better and is a strong anti-inflammatory. The bee lady, Pat Wagner told me, to take B2, B6 and vit C which are supposed to stimulate your body to produce its own steroids. I just read that somewhere (?) too. Kaye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 In a message dated 1/7/01 1:12:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, kayeelder@... writes: << > There must be some kind of herb or natural treatment > that either acts like steroids or stimulates the > body's own steroid prodution, so that we can get the > anti-inflamatory benefits of steroids without the > horrible side effects. Anyone know? > Hi, I am doing bee stings which is supposed to stimulate the whole system to work better and is a strong anti-inflammatory. The bee lady, Pat Wagner told me, to take B2, B6 and vit C which are supposed to stimulate your body to produce its own steroids. I just read that somewhere (?) too. Kaye >> I don't seem to have any problems with inflammation on my diet. The difference is dramatic. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Elaine, << Thank you very much for this information, it could prove invaluable to me further on down the road, as I totally refuse to take steroids, did it once for another condition and will not do so again, made me feel horrid, a general state of unwell, also made me very jumpy, I am a nervous person to start with so i did not enjoy the jump out of my skin feeling they gave me!! This list is great, I am newly diagnosed and have alot to learn, isn't 48 rather old to get diagnosed with this?? ~~~~~~~~~~~~I was 52 when I was officially diagnosed in 1997 and 48 when I got my first symptoms. I have experienced some of the symptoms for 20 years periodicly. My doctor does not think this will wind up being debilitating for me as I have had the symptoms so long, I don't know. What I do know is this I have recently gotten out of the hospital with another auto immune disease, Krones Disease, I wonder why my body has declared war on itself. I am disgusted. ~~~~~~~I'd be willing to bet the two are related. I've had intestinal problems all my life and feel that they had a definite cause or triggering of my MS. There is a protein in the intestinal lining called zonulin. It is the same protein that is in the blood brain barrier. When certain other food proteins are eaten that we are allergic to, it not only causes the zonulin lining the gut to allow too many food particles into the system, but the same thing is happening in the brain's zonulin, thereby allowing things through the BBB. Think about that for awhile. I have been working on healing my leaky gut and it has made a huge difference in my symptoms - that along with my MS diet. Carol Again thanks to all of you for the information you provide. Elaine (who is freezing in Tampa) >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Hi Elaine, I was 3 months of 50 y.o. when dx'ed with MS. A man in my support group was in his 60's when dx'ed. Strange, unpredictible disease. When I think about it, the majority of the group were middle age, not that young, when dx'ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Elaine, << <tt> hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the two were related somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess intestinally, pollup (removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no better red inflamed stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! I cannot afford to have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to reduce the acid my stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, meds do help for this. supposed to go back next month and see how its going do those awful tests in another three to six months. I have no idea what to eat or what not to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting right now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~I thought it was this list that we were just 'talking' about this stomach acid thing, but maybe it wasn't. I hate to repeat myself, if it was. I had the same types of problems for years and years and took all the acid blockers too. Please read this article with an open mind. I didn't believe it at first, because of what the doctors had been telling me for years, but finally I tried the HCl and I no longer have any problems with acid. Where did you get that those with MS shouldn't eat chicken? I never heard of such a thing. Type B blood types are not supposed to eat chicken and people with MS should only eat the white meat, because of the saturated fat in the dark meat, but it should be fine for us to eat. Beef should be out, because of the high sat. fat content alone. I'm just going to give you a link to an explanation of stomach acid problems. <A HREF= " http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm " > http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm</A> I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats one of the things I can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well forget it. Its all so discouraging. Elaine >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 In a message dated 1/10/01 6:53:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, Alialley@... writes: << <tt> Hi Elaine, I was 3 months of 50 y.o. when dx'ed with MS. A man in my support group was in his 60's when dx'ed. Strange, unpredictible disease. When I think about it, the majority of the group were middle age, not that young, when dx'ed. >> ~~~~~~~~I have read, however, that you are usually safe, if you can make it to age 65 without getting it. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Dear Garnet, Pregnenolone, according to Dr. Atkins in his book, Dr. Atkins' Vita-Nutrient Solution, "is the "grandmother hormone," the substance from which the body makes DHEA and almost all other sex steroid hormones, including testosterone, estrogen, cortisol, and aldosterone....Atkins Center doctors are now using the hormone supplement to treat any condition for which prednisone would be prescribed--arthritis, multiple sclerosis, asthma, temporal arthritis, and lupus, to name a few." See pages 280 and 281 of the book. He writes about dosages on page 284. I cannot quote all of it here. This book should be available in any major bookstore, or through Amazon.com. We do not have it in stock at this time. Lillian Hanke Librarian Garnet Prah wrote: There must be some kind of herb or natural treatment that either acts like steroids or stimulates the body's own steroid prodution, so that we can get the anti-inflamatory benefits of steroids without the horrible side effects. Anyone know? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Hi Elaine, I don't think 48 is late for MS from what I hear. I have been to hear some doctors speak that felt that it isn't unusual to surface around menopause. The average being 52. That is when I started to have weird symptoms and got the dx at 55-2 years ago. Also I had optic neuritis after I had my second child at 27. I believe there is probably some hormonal relationship with exacerbation's. Just my thoughts. Kaye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Thank you very much for this information, it could prove invaluable to me further on down the road, as I totally refuse to take steroids, did it once for another condition and will not do so again, made me feel horrid, a general state of unwell, also made me very jumpy, I am a nervous person to start with so i did not enjoy the jump out of my skin feeling they gave me!! This list is great, I am newly diagnosed and have alot to learn, isn't 48 rather old to get diagnosed with this?? I have experienced some of the symptoms for 20 years periodicly. My doctor does not think this will wind up being debilitating for me as I have had the symptoms so long, I don't know. What I do know is this I have recently gotten out of the hospital with another auto immune disease, Krones Disease, I wonder why my body has declared war on itself. I am disgusted. Again thanks to all of you for the information you provide. Elaine (who is freezing in Tampa) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 In a message dated 1/10/01 7:53:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, Cah819@... writes: > ~~~~I'd be willing to bet the two are related. I've had intestinal > problems all my life and feel that they had a definite cause or triggering > of > my MS. There is a protein in the intestinal lining called zonulin. It is > the same protein that is in the blood brain barrier. When certain other > food > proteins are eaten that we are allergic to, it not only causes the zonulin > lining the gut to allow too many food particles into the system, but the > same > thing is happening in the brain's zonulin, thereby allowing things through > the BBB. Think about that for awhile. I have been working on healing my > leaky gut and it has made a huge difference in my symptoms - that along with > > my MS diet. > Carol Carol, This is great info. I haven't heard about zonulin. My dr said I have a leaky gut. So what are you doing to fix the leaky gut . Maybe i am doing it .Who knows .There isn't much I haven't tried . I guess i am in need of sleep. Thanks , Kaye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the two were related somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess intestinally, pollup (removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no better red inflamed stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! I cannot afford to have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to reduce the acid my stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, meds do help for this. supposed to go back next month and see how its going do those awful tests in another three to six months. I have no idea what to eat or what not to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting right now. I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats one of the things I can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well forget it. Its all so discouraging. Elaine > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~I was 52 when I was officially diagnosed in 1997 and 48 when I > got my first symptoms. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Wow,,wonder if it makes any difference in the progressiveness of this wether diagnosed at middle or young age?? I knwo other diseases it can matter alot. > Hi Elaine, > I was 3 months of 50 y.o. when dx'ed with MS. A man in my support group was > in his 60's when dx'ed. Strange, unpredictible disease. When I think about > it, the majority of the group were middle age, not that young, when dx'ed. > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 Have you tried Ashton's diet? | hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the two were related | somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess intestinally, pollup | (removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no better red inflamed | stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! I cannot afford to | have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. | I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to reduce the acid my | stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, meds do help for | this. supposed to go back next month and see how its going do those awful | tests in another three to six months. I have no idea what to eat or what not | to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting right now. | I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats one of the things I | can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well forget it. | Its all so discouraging. | Elaine | > | > ~~~~~~~~~~~~I was 52 when I was officially diagnosed in 1997 and 48 when I | > got my first symptoms. | > | > | | | | . | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 In a message dated 1/10/01 9:11:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, kayeelder@... writes: << Carol, This is great info. I haven't heard about zonulin. My dr said I have a leaky gut. So what are you doing to fix the leaky gut . Maybe i am doing it .Who knows .There isn't much I haven't tried . I guess i am in need of sleep. Thanks , Kaye >> Kaye, I started working on it last spring and it took about 3 months to heal. I used a lot of different things - NAG (N-acetyl glucosamine), lactobacillus bifidus, l-glutamine, cat's claw, slippery elm, C & E, alpha lipoic acid, zinc and ginkgo biloba. I didn't take all of them all the time. The slippery elm and cat's claw I used sporadically. I kept my diet as low in carbs as possible also to help with candida overgrowth - they seem to go hand in hand. But, for the leaky gut, I had to eat a fairly bland, but extremely healthy diet, much like the diet I eat for MS anyway - white poultry meat, fish, and veggies predominantly. But no gluten, sugar, legumes, eggs or dairy, and none of my allergenic foods. It has made SUCH a difference. I used to wake up in the night often with intestinal 'attacks', and acid reflux, as well as having them during the day. I wasn't getting much decent sleep. I added the HCl at about the same time and feel that is vitally important as well. It helps with the acid reflux tremendously and gas too. I haven't had any of those attacks for going on a year now. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 In a message dated 1/11/01 4:10:25 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, drbrewer@... writes: << There is a book which may be helpful to you entitled, Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Intestinal Health Through Diet by Elaine Gottschall B.A., M. Sc. On the cover it says: " Diet for Crohn's Disease, ulcerative colitis, diverticulosis, celiac disease, cystic fibrosis, and chronic diarrhea. " >> Could a diet and herbs replace the need for Prevacid (Barrets esophagus, severe esophagitis, reflux problems) Thanks, Alice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 In a message dated 1/11/01 12:14:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, ronniewg2@... writes: << <tt> Carol I am a 50 year male with primary progressive ms . I have been dianosed since 1995 I have seen HCI mentioned several times . but I don't know what it is . Could you explain it to me? Dumb from Alabama. Ronnie >> Ronnie, It's similar to stomach acid in pill form. It's actually Betaine hydrochloride. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Dear Elaine, There is a book which may be helpful to you entitled, Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Intestinal Health Through Diet by Elaine Gottschall B.A., M. Sc. On the cover it says: "Diet for Crohn's Disease, ulcerative colitis, diverticulosis, celiac disease, cystic fibrosis, and chronic diarrhea." The book contains 75 pages of recipes for the special diet it recommends. The book might be available in a major bookstore or from Amazon.com. If not, it costs $16.95 plus $4.00 for mailing costs and can be ordered from: The Kirkton Press R.R. 1, Kirkton, Ontario Canada N0K 1K0 Tel. Fax I would highly recommend that you take a look at this book. Lillian Hanke Librarian Cah819@... wrote: Elaine, << <tt> hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the two were related somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess intestinally, pollup (removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no better red inflamed stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! I cannot afford to have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to reduce the acid my stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, meds do help for this. supposed to go back next month and see how its going do those awful tests in another three to six months. I have no idea what to eat or what not to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting right now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~I thought it was this list that we were just 'talking' about this stomach acid thing, but maybe it wasn't. I hate to repeat myself, if it was. I had the same types of problems for years and years and took all the acid blockers too. Please read this article with an open mind. I didn't believe it at first, because of what the doctors had been telling me for years, but finally I tried the HCl and I no longer have any problems with acid. Where did you get that those with MS shouldn't eat chicken? I never heard of such a thing. Type B blood types are not supposed to eat chicken and people with MS should only eat the white meat, because of the saturated fat in the dark meat, but it should be fine for us to eat. Beef should be out, because of the high sat. fat content alone. I'm just going to give you a link to an explanation of stomach acid problems. <A HREF="http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm"> http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm</A> I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats one of the things I can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well forget it. Its all so discouraging. Elaine >> .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Thank you so much, I REALLY appreciate it so much. I do need direction on this badly. Now is this diet comparable to what the MS diet should be?? Thank you!! Elaine Re: Steroid replacement Dear Elaine, There is a book which may be helpful to you entitled, Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Intestinal Health Through Diet by Elaine Gottschall B.A., M. Sc. On the cover it says: "Diet for Crohn's Disease, ulcerative colitis, diverticulosis, celiac disease, cystic fibrosis, and chronic diarrhea." The book contains 75 pages of recipes for the special diet it recommends. The book might be available in a major bookstore or from Amazon.com. If not, it costs $16.95 plus $4.00 for mailing costs and can be ordered from: The Kirkton Press R.R. 1, Kirkton, Ontario Canada N0K 1K0 Tel. Fax I would highly recommend that you take a look at this book. Lillian Hanke Librarian Cah819@... wrote: Elaine, << <tt> hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the two were related somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess intestinally, pollup (removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no better red inflamed stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! I cannot afford to have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to reduce the acid my stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, meds do help for this. supposed to go back next month and see how its going do those awful tests in another three to six months. I have no idea what to eat or what not to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting right now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~I thought it was this list that we were just 'talking' about this stomach acid thing, but maybe it wasn't. I hate to repeat myself, if it was. I had the same types of problems for years and years and took all the acid blockers too. Please read this article with an open mind. I didn't believe it at first, because of what the doctors had been telling me for years, but finally I tried the HCl and I no longer have any problems with acid. Where did you get that those with MS shouldn't eat chicken? I never heard of such a thing. Type B blood types are not supposed to eat chicken and people with MS should only eat the white meat, because of the saturated fat in the dark meat, but it should be fine for us to eat. Beef should be out, because of the high sat. fat content alone. I'm just going to give you a link to an explanation of stomach acid problems. <A HREF="http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm"> http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm</A> I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats one of the things I can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well forget it. Its all so discouraging. Elaine >> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Carol I am a 50 year male with primary progressive ms . I have been dianosed since 1995 I have seen HCI mentioned several times . but I don't know what it is . Could you explain it to me? Dumb from Alabama. Ronnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Dear Alice, I looked in the index of the book listed below and those words do not appear. This book is about intestinal problems and problems which may be caused by the intestinal problems. I have had members of my family with hiatal hernias which are part of the reflux causing problem and they were told not to eat less than an hour before lying down, and given a list of spicy foods and acid foods that would aggravate their problems. They were also given advice to put blocks of wood under the front legs of their bed to raise them up several inches while they sleep. Then gravity helps to keep the acid in your stomach where it belongs. Your doctor should be able to give you all of this information. I don't have a book about this but I could probably find some information along these lines here in the library if you contact me directly. Lillian Hanke Alialley@... wrote: In a message dated 1/11/01 4:10:25 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, drbrewer@... writes: << There is a book which may be helpful to you entitled, Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Intestinal Health Through Diet by Elaine Gottschall B.A., M. Sc. On the cover it says: "Diet for Crohn's Disease, ulcerative colitis, diverticulosis, celiac disease, cystic fibrosis, and chronic diarrhea." >> Could a diet and herbs replace the need for Prevacid (Barrets esophagus, severe esophagitis, reflux problems) Thanks, Alice .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2001 Report Share Posted January 11, 2001 Dear Elaine, All of you have been exchanging information about what works for you, or doesn't. Dr. Nieper said, "No dairy." He mentioned that he observed that places in the world where milk was a common beverage has more MS cases and he read an article in the '70's in Nature I think which implicated glutenes in milk in MS. I have never seen that article personally. He forbid his patients to eat any cheese except a highly fermented Camembert type. He forbid other things like chlorinated and fluoridated water, and distilled water, and foods or beverages containing phosphoric acid such as colas. He recommended a normal, balanced diet containing much raw vegetables, not too salty. All sorts of herbal teas, especially hibiscus teas; from time to time champagne --"its carbon dioxide tends to eliminate headaches and vessel spasms in MS patients;" and he recommended walking and exercise whenever possible. The Do's and Don'ts list is 2 pages long and available from our library along with other things Dr. Nieper wrote. If you tried the "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" diet you might have to modify it further because of what you already know you can and cannot eat. Each one of us has to listen to our body and some people have many more allergies or sensitivities than others. I read that leaky gut problems lead to food sensitivities and these can become serious allergies. One of the most severe allergy reactions is the anaphylactic reaction where you feel like your throat is swelling shut, and it can be life threatening. So, if this book is helpful it may prevent further problems from developing. I hope it helps you. Lillian Hanke Elaine wrote: Thank you so much, I REALLY appreciate it so much. I do need direction on this badly. Now is this diet comparable to what the MS diet should be??Thank you!!Elaine Re: Steroid replacement Dear Elaine, There is a book which may be helpful to you entitled, Breaking the Vicious Cycle, Intestinal Health Through Diet by Elaine Gottschall B.A., M. Sc. On the cover it says: "Diet for Crohn's Disease, ulcerative colitis, diverticulosis, celiac disease, cystic fibrosis, and chronic diarrhea." The book contains 75 pages of recipes for the special diet it recommends. The book might be available in a major bookstore or from Amazon.com. If not, it costs $16.95 plus $4.00 for mailing costs and can be ordered from: The Kirkton Press R.R. 1, Kirkton, Ontario Canada N0K 1K0 Tel. Fax I would highly recommend that you take a look at this book. Lillian Hanke Librarian Cah819@... wrote: Elaine, << <tt> hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the two were related somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess intestinally, pollup (removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no better red inflamed stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! I cannot afford to have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to reduce the acid my stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, meds do help for this. supposed to go back next month and see how its going do those awful tests in another three to six months. I have no idea what to eat or what not to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting right now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~I thought it was this list that we were just 'talking' about this stomach acid thing, but maybe it wasn't. I hate to repeat myself, if it was. I had the same types of problems for years and years and took all the acid blockers too. Please read this article with an open mind. I didn't believe it at first, because of what the doctors had been telling me for years, but finally I tried the HCl and I no longer have any problems with acid. Where did you get that those with MS shouldn't eat chicken? I never heard of such a thing. Type B blood types are not supposed to eat chicken and people with MS should only eat the white meat, because of the saturated fat in the dark meat, but it should be fine for us to eat. Beef should be out, because of the high sat. fat content alone. I'm just going to give you a link to an explanation of stomach acid problems. <A HREF="http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm"> http://www.candidafighter.com/heartburn.htm</A> I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats one of the things I can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well forget it. Its all so discouraging. Elaine >> .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2001 Report Share Posted January 13, 2001 P.S.Ijust noticed that you mention 'special needs kids' this is why I recommend color-free toothpaste, as in some children,colors in all sorts of preparations, and /or cereals can be some of the culprits IF HYPERACTIVITY is the problem as it was when my son was small- all the best Elaine c> >Reply-To: mscuredegroups >To: <mscuredegroups> >Subject: Re: Steroid replacement >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:08:10 -0500 > >hi, do you have sever symptoms? I was wondering if the two were related >somehow as it seems very 'coincidental', I am a mess intestinally, pollup >(removed) diverticulosis, krones and upper Gi is no better red inflamed >stomach and a few ulcers. Not to forget IBS,,,scream!!! I cannot afford to >have this stuff I have two special needs kids to raise. >I am taking a huge lot of stomach /intestinal meds, to reduce the acid my >stomach makes, I have been feeling awful and very weak, meds do help for >this. supposed to go back next month and see how its going do those awful >tests in another three to six months. I have no idea what to eat or what >not >to eat. Eating is for the most part rather revolting right now. >I hear those with MS should not eat chicken, well thats one of the things I >can tollerate!! Beef is out, anything heavy ,, well forget it. >Its all so discouraging. >Elaine > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~I was 52 when I was officially diagnosed in 1997 and 48 when >I > > got my first symptoms. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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