Wired, loss of attention span / Oil boilers

[Guest guest]

How are his poops? Rebound after Nystatin is common as is bacteria filling the hole where yeast used to be but sounded from the other email you are doing the right things

Mandi x

Does anyone have any thoughts on the changes in behaviour my 3 year old has experienced recently? I'm terrified he's regressing again. Over the last week or 2, he is always "wired", and has lost interest in toys and can't focus on any activity for very long (other than physical). Could any of the following be causing this? - Just finished 4 weeks of Nystatin. - Mineral deficiency? (calcium perhaps?). - Change of scene/lack of sleep - the change happened noticably while we were away over half term. - Oil boiler? The place we stayed (and go to regularly) has an oil boiler and big oil tank in the garden. Could boiler oil be a source of xylene exposure or am I barking up? Many thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions. nah

[Guest guest]

we had a regression after a two-week course of nystatin (at the time I

put it down entirely to supernutera, but nystatin may have played a big

part too). the regression was reversed a month later when we went on SCD

diet - is your son on it? if not I highly recommend it. We were back to

baseline in about a week.

5 years later we tried nystatin again and again had a bad reaction to it

the same day. Same thing two days later so stopped altogether.

apart from the boiler was there anything else in that place that could

be causing sensitivities or allergic reactions. was he surrounded by

animals? insects? did he sneeze or have a cold etc in that period?

Natasa

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> Does anyone have any thoughts on the changes in behaviour my 3 year

old has experienced recently? I'm terrified he's regressing again.

>

> Over the last week or 2, he is always " wired " , and has lost interest

in toys and can't focus on any activity for very long (other than

physical).

>

> Could any of the following be causing this?

>

> - Just finished 4 weeks of Nystatin.

> - Mineral deficiency? (calcium perhaps?).

> - Change of scene/lack of sleep - the change happened noticably while

we were away over half term.

> - Oil boiler? The place we stayed (and go to regularly) has an oil

boiler and big oil tank in the garden. Could boiler oil be a source of

xylene exposure or am I barking up?

>

> Many thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.

>

> nah

>

[Guest guest]

Nystatin also has a strep connection. Streptomyces noursei is the source. see,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nystatin

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> How are his poops? Rebound after Nystatin is common as is bacteria filling

> the hole where yeast used to be but sounded from the other email you are

> doing the right things

>

> Mandi x

>

>

> In a message dated 10/06/2011 13:13:04 GMT Daylight Time,

> susannah_miles@... writes:

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>

> Does anyone have any thoughts on the changes in behaviour my 3 year old has

> experienced recently? I'm terrified he's regressing again.

>

> Over the last week or 2, he is always " wired " , and has lost interest in

> toys and can't focus on any activity for very long (other than physical).

>

> Could any of the following be causing this?

>

> - Just finished 4 weeks of Nystatin.

> - Mineral deficiency? (calcium perhaps?).

> - Change of scene/lack of sleep - the change happened noticably while we

> were away over half term.

> - Oil boiler? The place we stayed (and go to regularly) has an oil boiler

> and big oil tank in the garden. Could boiler oil be a source of xylene

> exposure or am I barking up?

>

> Many thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.

>

> nah

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all of this - so much food for thought.

A part from those mentioned, we haven't had any nasty side effects like yours,

Alison. I just checked and the one we've just finished (Squibb Nystan) has no

sulphur (but does have benzoates).

He's on digestive enzymes and probiotics but was wondering about increasing

probiotics (also boulardii, which was mentioned in the current thread on yeast)

- my local health shop wasn't up on it but going to look into it for me. Can

you recommend any probiotics?

Poops are as erratic as ever. We had a brief period near the start where he did

5 wet ones/day, but stopped (and behaviours continued - giggles, teeth grinding,

spinning etc.). Stuff about bacteria and strep is interesting. OAT (march)

showed lots of bacteria already and we're about to start metronidizole (nervous

about this). You are suggesting that if the yeast has improved, the bacteria

may have got worse, Mandi?

He's not on SCD but is gfcf (so some overlap), but naturally seems to avoid

grains (stopped eating rice and gf pastas) and craves meat and fruit. Would you

do scd and gfcf together?

Thanks again for all your comments and suggestions.

nah

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> > > How are his poops? Rebound after Nystatin is common as is bacteria

> > filling

> > > the hole where yeast used to be but sounded from the other email you are

> > > doing the right things

> > >

> > > Mandi x

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 10/06/2011 13:13:04 GMT Daylight Time,

> > > susannah_miles@ writes:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any thoughts on the changes in behaviour my 3 year old

> > has

> > > experienced recently? I'm terrified he's regressing again.

> > >

> > > Over the last week or 2, he is always " wired " , and has lost interest in

> > > toys and can't focus on any activity for very long (other than physical).

> >

> > >

> > > Could any of the following be causing this?

> > >

> > > - Just finished 4 weeks of Nystatin.

> > > - Mineral deficiency? (calcium perhaps?).

> > > - Change of scene/lack of sleep - the change happened noticably while we

> > > were away over half term.

> > > - Oil boiler? The place we stayed (and go to regularly) has an oil boiler

> >

> > > and big oil tank in the garden. Could boiler oil be a source of xylene

> > > exposure or am I barking up?

> > >

> > > Many thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.

> > >

> > > nah

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Natasa,

I missed the bit about colds etc. yes, he did have a runny nose for a few days.

And yes my sister's dogs were there , it's in the countryside, so potential for

pollens, insects, etc. too. (Always thought it must be better than London

air!). When we went at Easter, he had an awful cold + regression that lasted

ages. Do you think sensitivities like this could lead to so much regression?

Thank you again,

nah

> >

> > Does anyone have any thoughts on the changes in behaviour my 3 year

> old has experienced recently? I'm terrified he's regressing again.

> >

> > Over the last week or 2, he is always " wired " , and has lost interest

> in toys and can't focus on any activity for very long (other than

> physical).

> >

> > Could any of the following be causing this?

> >

> > - Just finished 4 weeks of Nystatin.

> > - Mineral deficiency? (calcium perhaps?).

> > - Change of scene/lack of sleep - the change happened noticably while

> we were away over half term.

> > - Oil boiler? The place we stayed (and go to regularly) has an oil

> boiler and big oil tank in the garden. Could boiler oil be a source of

> xylene exposure or am I barking up?

> >

> > Many thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.

> >

> > nah

> >

>

[Guest guest]

SCD is gluten-free, because no grains. Also, no milk. Teh risk of a clasic GF

diet is that all sorts of other processed starch and sugar gets tend to used in

the diet to replace wheat; to my thinking (and others') this is not good.

I suggest you look at the GAPs diet - Natasha McBride wrtoe a book " Gut

and Psychology Syndrome " which is in some ways similar to the SCD.

She suggest for example cooking with home-made clarified butter, which is very

low in casein, as well as using other animal fats for cooking eg goose fat

rather than vegetable oild. Also to make lots of home made stews and soups,

using bones for broth.

Margaret

> > > >

> > > > How are his poops? Rebound after Nystatin is common as is bacteria

> > > filling

> > > > the hole where yeast used to be but sounded from the other email you are

> > > > doing the right things

> > > >

> > > > Mandi x

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 10/06/2011 13:13:04 GMT Daylight Time,

> > > > susannah_miles@ writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone have any thoughts on the changes in behaviour my 3 year old

> > > has

> > > > experienced recently? I'm terrified he's regressing again.

> > > >

> > > > Over the last week or 2, he is always " wired " , and has lost interest in

> > > > toys and can't focus on any activity for very long (other than

physical).

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Could any of the following be causing this?

> > > >

> > > > - Just finished 4 weeks of Nystatin.

> > > > - Mineral deficiency? (calcium perhaps?).

> > > > - Change of scene/lack of sleep - the change happened noticably while we

> > > > were away over half term.

> > > > - Oil boiler? The place we stayed (and go to regularly) has an oil

boiler

> > >

> > > > and big oil tank in the garden. Could boiler oil be a source of xylene

> > > > exposure or am I barking up?

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.

> > > >

> > > > nah

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Yes, imo it is very likely that such sensitivities lead to regressions,

via a domino effect.

I also think this happens much more than we realise (as not immediately

obvious), and that IgE/MC/histamine hyperreactions are a huge part of

the picture for most our kids.

watch this top video link http://www.autismmedia.org/media3.html

(that guy will be presenting at the TA conference next weekend

http://www.treatingautism.co.uk/

hth

Natasa

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> > > Does anyone have any thoughts on the changes in behaviour my 3

year

> > old has experienced recently? I'm terrified he's regressing again.

> > >

> > > Over the last week or 2, he is always " wired " , and has lost

interest

> > in toys and can't focus on any activity for very long (other than

> > physical).

> > >

> > > Could any of the following be causing this?

> > >

> > > - Just finished 4 weeks of Nystatin.

> > > - Mineral deficiency? (calcium perhaps?).

> > > - Change of scene/lack of sleep - the change happened noticably

while

> > we were away over half term.

> > > - Oil boiler? The place we stayed (and go to regularly) has an

oil

> > boiler and big oil tank in the garden. Could boiler oil be a source

of

> > xylene exposure or am I barking up?

> > >

> > > Many thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.

> > >

> > > nah

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Natasa,

I watched part 1 (need time to absorb before moving to part 2). It's absolutely

fascinating stuff. I'm more and more convinced that my son is experiencing some

kind of allergic reaction every time we go there, (to what, I don't know - will

just have to stay away for a while)and that it's nothing to do with change of

scene. The regression is so clearly visible.

Sadly, I missed the deadline for registering for the conference and am

absolutely gutted, but lots of information to take in in the meantime, including

the remaining parts of Dr Theoharides' interview.

Thanks again,

nah

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone have any thoughts on the changes in behaviour my 3

> year

> > > old has experienced recently? I'm terrified he's regressing again.

> > > >

> > > > Over the last week or 2, he is always " wired " , and has lost

> interest

> > > in toys and can't focus on any activity for very long (other than

> > > physical).

> > > >

> > > > Could any of the following be causing this?

> > > >

> > > > - Just finished 4 weeks of Nystatin.

> > > > - Mineral deficiency? (calcium perhaps?).

> > > > - Change of scene/lack of sleep - the change happened noticably

> while

> > > we were away over half term.

> > > > - Oil boiler? The place we stayed (and go to regularly) has an

> oil

> > > boiler and big oil tank in the garden. Could boiler oil be a source

> of

> > > xylene exposure or am I barking up?

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.

> > > >

> > > > nah

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I just watched these videos - very interesting.

Natasa, i note his research stems from 2008 - does anyone/you know if anyone

else has 'run' with this? or does it remain theory.

makes sense for my boy, i looked up pictures of kids suffering from

'masto-mania' and he has had this all this life !

never diagnosed of course - very interesting

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anyone have any thoughts on the changes in behaviour my 3

> > year

> > > > old has experienced recently? I'm terrified he's regressing again.

> > > > >

> > > > > Over the last week or 2, he is always " wired " , and has lost

> > interest

> > > > in toys and can't focus on any activity for very long (other than

> > > > physical).

> > > > >

> > > > > Could any of the following be causing this?

> > > > >

> > > > > - Just finished 4 weeks of Nystatin.

> > > > > - Mineral deficiency? (calcium perhaps?).

> > > > > - Change of scene/lack of sleep - the change happened noticably

> > while

> > > > we were away over half term.

> > > > > - Oil boiler? The place we stayed (and go to regularly) has an

> > oil

> > > > boiler and big oil tank in the garden. Could boiler oil be a source

> > of

> > > > xylene exposure or am I barking up?

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.

> > > > >

> > > > > nah

> > > > >

> > > >

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