Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 We are about to receive our first bottle and were wondering about the following from people who have been using it – is there a general rule on the starting dosage, how to increase and when to stop increasing/max dose? Or play it by ear ? - also Rita could you please remind me how long the rounds are – was it 40 days with 20 days rest? What is the reasoning for the length of rounds, is it more effective when you do stop and start again or is it just to give body a rest? - Last question how long into treatments does the rash appear (if it does) and how long for it to clear? - this one is really to try and time it with school starting and terms .... tia Natasa x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Natasa, Check the group Files for the LDM-100 Recap. 1) Starting does was generally 5 drops 3x a day for 3-5 days then increase to 12-15 drops. This is VERY Individual...play it by ear (or muscle test). Cut back if you are getting to much die-off or to bad of behaviors. 2) Rounds are 1-2 months then 1-2 month break (see #11 on the Recap). 's tended to be 60 days on 30 days off. You should not see regression during the break, healing continues. What you may see is subsequent viral/bacterial layers (see #15 on the Recap). Our regression came when I took to long a break and ended up with a viral flare. As our group figured this out we knew what to expect and stayed on top of it. 3) See Rash info #13 on the Recap for details. Days 8-9 like clockwork in our WA control group (as early as day 4-5 outside the control group...but not everyone in our control group used it right away, the herbalist cleaned up the digestive systems and built immunities prior to the detox). All our best! Keep us posted. Rita > > We are about to receive our first bottle and were wondering about the > following from people who have been using it > > > > is there a general rule on the starting dosage, how to increase and when > to stop increasing/max dose? Or play it by ear ? > > > - also Rita could you please remind me how long the rounds are was it 40 > days with 20 days rest? What is the reasoning for the length of rounds, is > it more effective when you do stop and start again or is it just to give > body a rest? > > > - Last question how long into treatments does the rash appear (if it does) > and how long for it to clear? - this one is really to try and time it with > school starting and terms .... > > > tia > > Natasa x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Hi, I have been giving my son LDM100 for almost 3 weeks now. It muscle tested well and I started with the amounts you suggested and have built up. I did miss some midday dosages some days. I was hoping for a rash, but he didn't have one. He did have a couple of red spots on his lips for a few days, but I don't know if it was related. Even if the child doesn't have a rash, are there improvements and if so, in what ways? Carol > > > > We are about to receive our first bottle and were wondering about > the > > following from people who have been using it > > > > > > > > is there a general rule on the starting dosage, how to increase > and when > > to stop increasing/max dose? Or play it by ear ? > > > > > > - also Rita could you please remind me how long the rounds are > was it 40 > > days with 20 days rest? What is the reasoning for the length of > rounds, is > > it more effective when you do stop and start again or is it just > to give > > body a rest? > > > > > > - Last question how long into treatments does the rash appear (if > it does) > > and how long for it to clear? - this one is really to try and > time it with > > school starting and terms .... > > > > > > tia > > > > Natasa x > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 thanks! have spoken today to admin lady from that charity, our valkion application is moving along – not refused yet so I am hopeful! She said testimonies from other people using it would be more than welcome and would def help the application. so I will be thrawling the lists tonight for your posts and limin’s. Would it be ok to give your name when copying posts? (I will leave out any bits of posts that don’t relate to valkion...) If you prefer I will leave it out completely or use initials only... Are you both in WA? nx Natasa, Check the group Files for the LDM-100 Recap. 1) Starting does was generally 5 drops 3x a day for 3-5 days then increase to 12-15 drops. This is VERY Individual...play it by ear (or muscle test). Cut back if you are getting to much die-off or to bad of behaviors. 2) Rounds are 1-2 months then 1-2 month break (see #11 on the Recap). 's tended to be 60 days on 30 days off. You should not see regression during the break, healing continues. What you may see is subsequent viral/bacterial layers (see #15 on the Recap). Our regression came when I took to long a break and ended up with a viral flare. As our group figured this out we knew what to expect and stayed on top of it. 3) See Rash info #13 on the Recap for details. Days 8-9 like clockwork in our WA control group (as early as day 4-5 outside the control group...but not everyone in our control group used it right away, the herbalist cleaned up the digestive systems and built immunities prior to the detox). All our best! Keep us posted. Rita > > We are about to receive our first bottle and were wondering about the > following from people who have been using it > > > > – is there a general rule on the starting dosage, how to increase and when > to stop increasing/max dose? Or play it by ear ? > > > - also Rita could you please remind me how long the rounds are – was it 40 > days with 20 days rest? What is the reasoning for the length of rounds, is > it more effective when you do stop and start again or is it just to give > body a rest? > > > - Last question how long into treatments does the rash appear (if it does) > and how long for it to clear? - this one is really to try and time it with > school starting and terms .... > > > tia > > Natasa x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Natasa - We were on the LDM-100 for 3 months - With Zander we started with 5 drops 3x a day for 2 days Then we increased to 22 drops 2x a day till bottle was gone, we got the rash on day 9. It lasted I believe 7 days 1-3 the worst then started to move down the body and started disappearing as it moved. My son started his rash on upper chest and back - never got it on his face or head (I believe Rita's son had it on his head) After the bottle was gone, we maintained at 10 drops 1-2x a day for 2 more months, Zander basically told me he no longer wanted it, others reported throwing up which then we had child tested and their bodies no longer needed the ldm-100. (You want to continue because sometimes the viruses if overloaded can not excrete out, will dormant into the bones till the body can handle more kill off (this is how the HIV viruses works as well - when using this treatment for that viruses) As for my son, we have never had to go back on the LDM-100 and its been over a year. Let me know if you need more information from me, Lorina Oh and if you do get the rash on the outside (because if you don't see the rash on the outside doesn't mean its not there on underlayer of skin)just bath or shower with water do not use soap or lotions because of clogging the pores and makes it hard to excrete. > > We are about to receive our first bottle and were wondering about the > following from people who have been using it > > > > is there a general rule on the starting dosage, how to increase and when > to stop increasing/max dose? Or play it by ear ? > > > - also Rita could you please remind me how long the rounds are was it 40 > days with 20 days rest? What is the reasoning for the length of rounds, is > it more effective when you do stop and start again or is it just to give > body a rest? > > > - Last question how long into treatments does the rash appear (if it does) > and how long for it to clear? - this one is really to try and time it with > school starting and terms .... > > > tia > > Natasa x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Not getting the rash on the outside skin doesn't mean they are not getting the rash - if can be attached on the underlay of skin which is just as good. Have you seen any differences in your child behavior? Please let us know - Lorina > > > > > > We are about to receive our first bottle and were wondering about > > the > > > following from people who have been using it > > > > > > > > > > > > is there a general rule on the starting dosage, how to increase > > and when > > > to stop increasing/max dose? Or play it by ear ? > > > > > > > > > - also Rita could you please remind me how long the rounds are > > was it 40 > > > days with 20 days rest? What is the reasoning for the length of > > rounds, is > > > it more effective when you do stop and start again or is it just > > to give > > > body a rest? > > > > > > > > > - Last question how long into treatments does the rash appear (if > > it does) > > > and how long for it to clear? - this one is really to try and > > time it with > > > school starting and terms .... > > > > > > > > > tia > > > > > > Natasa x > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Hi Natasa, I am in SF bay area and have not had experience with Valkion. I think what you referred to are the posts from Lorina. I would definitely like to try Valkion at some point. Limin From: Neno/Natasa Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:53 To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: LDM-100 a few questions for Rita and others thanks!have spoken today to admin lady from that charity, our valkion application is moving along – not refused yet so I am hopeful!She said testimonies from other people using it would be more than welcome and would def help the application. so I will be thrawling the lists tonight for your posts and limin’s. Would it be ok to give your name when copying posts? (I will leave out any bits of posts that don’t relate to valkion...) If you prefer I will leave it out completely or use initials only... Are you both in WA?nxNatasa,Check the group Files for the LDM-100 Recap.1) Starting does was generally 5 drops 3x a day for 3-5 days then increase to 12-15 drops. This is VERY Individual...play it by ear (or muscle test). Cut back if you are getting to much die-off or to bad of behaviors.2) Rounds are 1-2 months then 1-2 month break (see #11 on the Recap). 's tended to be 60 days on 30 days off. You should not see regression during the break, healing continues. What you may see is subsequent viral/bacterial layers (see #15 on the Recap). Our regression came when I took to long a break and ended up with a viral flare. As our group figured this out we knew what to expect and stayed on top of it.3) See Rash info #13 on the Recap for details. Days 8-9 like clockwork in our WA control group (as early as day 4-5 outside the control group...but not everyone in our control group used it right away, the herbalist cleaned up the digestive systems and built immunities prior to the detox).All our best! Keep us posted.Rita>> We are about to receive our first bottle and were wondering about the> following from people who have been using it> > > > – is there a general rule on the starting dosage, how to increase and when> to stop increasing/max dose? Or play it by ear ?> > > - also Rita could you please remind me how long the rounds are – was it 40> days with 20 days rest? What is the reasoning for the length of rounds, is> it more effective when you do stop and start again or is it just to give> body a rest?> > > - Last question how long into treatments does the rash appear (if it does)> and how long for it to clear? - this one is really to try and time it with> school starting and terms ....> > > tia> > Natasa x> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 yes, sorry got all mixed up here nx > > > > We are about to receive our first bottle and were wondering about > the > > following from people who have been using it > > > > > > > > - is there a general rule on the starting dosage, how to increase > and when > > to stop increasing/max dose? Or play it by ear ? > > > > > > - also Rita could you please remind me how long the rounds are - > was it 40 > > days with 20 days rest? What is the reasoning for the length of > rounds, is > > it more effective when you do stop and start again or is it just > to give > > body a rest? > > > > > > - Last question how long into treatments does the rash appear (if > it does) > > and how long for it to clear? - this one is really to try and > time it with > > school starting and terms .... > > > > > > tia > > > > Natasa x > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Lorina, We are doing several new things, but I did notice the red spots on the lips - I think at about the same time he should've had the rash. They weren't canker sores, they looked more like about 3 small blisters on the lips and they went away within a week. He has had lip issues in the past which seemed to be strep related. My son also has " detox " pimples on his bottom which he always gets when he detoxes, but we are also doing IV chelation 1x/week for 6 weeks. His behavior is normal for him, except he is saying " no " a lot and being less compliant. Carol > > > > > > > > We are about to receive our first bottle and were wondering > about > > > the > > > > following from people who have been using it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is there a general rule on the starting dosage, how to > increase > > > and when > > > > to stop increasing/max dose? Or play it by ear ? > > > > > > > > > > > > - also Rita could you please remind me how long the rounds are > > > was it 40 > > > > days with 20 days rest? What is the reasoning for the length of > > > rounds, is > > > > it more effective when you do stop and start again or is it > just > > > to give > > > > body a rest? > > > > > > > > > > > > - Last question how long into treatments does the rash appear > (if > > > it does) > > > > and how long for it to clear? - this one is really to try and > > > time it with > > > > school starting and terms .... > > > > > > > > > > > > tia > > > > > > > > Natasa x > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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