Re:Photon Genie, Rife, KMT

[Guest guest]

Hi Sal,

I use a beam ray machine. It does not require my child to touch

anything. It is more expensive than a regular rife(approx 5-6000), but

since is very sensory that is what we chose.

I do find it very helpful. Let me know if you want any more info.

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Yes I do, please. You can contact me off list of share with the list if

appropriate. creekhopper@.... Thank you. Sal

>

> Hi Sal,

> I use a beam ray machine. It does not require my child to touch

> anything. It is more expensive than a regular rife(approx 5-6000),

but

> since is very sensory that is what we chose.

>

> I do find it very helpful. Let me know if you want any more info.

> Peggy

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sal,

I am replying to the list since this maybe helpful to others. I have a

traditional rife machine. My son refused to use it. He hated the

sensation.

When I got deathly ill last summer, I saw a chiro in Nashville(Brent

). Dr. is the maker of Spironil. Dr. 's big 3 consist

of clearing emotional blockages,targeting infections with the beamray,

and using the AMD ionic footbaths. The beam ray consists of a

monitor, keyboard, and a large flourescent tube. There are over 200

programs on the unit, but the company has several hundred more in their

archives.

The unit does not have to come anywhere near the person being treated.

We have the tube set up about 4 feet away. My son hangs out on the bed

and I zap him.

I am very emf sensitive and find that I do better with the beam ray than

I do with a rife. It could be because I am not hooked up to electrodes.

On another note, for those that cannot afford a valkion there is a

product called Opaline dry oxy. It was recommended to me by Dr. Hildy

Stanninger. She is the Morgellon's guru.

This supplement increases oxygen to your system. It is cheap and the

company is really pleasant to deal with. If you order six of the

products you get wholesale pricing.

You can herx from it so go slow. I used to have low oxygenation when

tested on the scio and now my levels are normal. I do not think it can

replace the valkion, but it is a cheap alternative to oxygenate your system.

Before I forget what is OSR? I am rather clueless to all the posts

about it.

Sharon, Once Diane tests you on the scio, we can use the beam ray to

treat . This way you won't have to be scanned as often. The

scio can tell you what the body wants at the time, but it does not test

for tolerance.

Sorry for combining a lot of topics in one post. I am in the herx from

hell and I only have so much energy.

Thanks,

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Hi Peggy,

I'm sorry you're still not feeling well. I don't understand the difference between rife machines and scio/epfx machines and such. I had called Dr. Cowden's office a couple weeks ago, looking for a trained doctor in our area, but got the answering machine. Dr. Cowden called back yesterday and we spoke for about 15 minutes. What a nice man! There is a doctor in West Palm that he recommended. I asked Dr. Cowden if he was using the Asyra (sp?) machine, and he said that he isn't using it anymore and has upgraded to a Bicom 2000 Pro, so that a patient will only have to see him in his office once and then future consultations can be made via internet using this machine.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

Thanks. Things are definitely weird right now. The scio did pick up

sarcoidosis along with Lyme and parasites. I am a little freaked,

but believe that when I get the parasite issue under control, things

will settle down a bit.

I have heard about the doctor in West Palm. Someone on the ASL lyme

group went and was pleased.

The doctor in Oviedo uses the bicom 2000, but I am pretty sure no

cold laser.

The scio machine will scan your body and determine its strengths and

weaknesses. Itcan treat you as well because it has many remedies

built in to its data bank.

Rife technology does treat you with frequencies, but it does not

diagnose and it only uses the rife technology. The scio machine has

herbs, acupuncture, homeopathy, nutrients, etc all built in. It is

the imprint of these remedies that will be used to treat you with.

You can also choose not to use the " corrective " frequencies and use

the real herb, vitamin, etc.

I do that sometimes, because I like to choose how much of something I

take, and sometimes I think you need the real thing. Just my

perspective. You will understand better when you see DIane's scio

and then see my beam ray unit. I am having beam ray send me the

entire list of the programs they have so we can tailor thing more to

and my parasite problems.

Have a great night.

Peggy

>

> Hi Peggy,

>

> I'm sorry you're still not feeling well. I don't understand the

difference

> between rife machines and scio/epfx machines and such. I had

called Dr.

> Cowden's office a couple weeks ago, looking for a trained doctor

in our area, but

> got the answering machine. Dr. Cowden called back yesterday and

we spoke

> for about 15 minutes. What a nice man! There is a doctor in West

Palm that he

> recommended. I asked Dr. Cowden if he was using the Asyra (sp?)

machine,

> and he said that he isn't using it anymore and has upgraded to a

Bicom 2000

> Pro, so that a patient will only have to see him in his office

once and then

> future consultations can be made via internet using this machine.

> Sharon

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destination.

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>

[Guest guest]

FWIW,

I believe the SCIO is bogus, but then, of course I could be wrong. I

think it's a really beautiful-looking video program... I researched

it a while back after being evaluated on one, being treated, getting

no results.

I belong to a yahoo SCIO group, I joined just to see what people

said. Most of the questions asked on the list are about computer

software and how to make the thing work.

I've read of some incorrect readings for people such as telling them

they had HIV, when they didn't. I also object to people using these

machines who are not medically trained, and most of them aren't.

I think it's also supposed to do " subspace healing " as well as tell

you about past lives??? Really? I did read that.

I do believe in electrodermal biofeedback. My family has done this

going back about 20 years with the original machine. It made more

sense and was more accurate. Our very knowledgeable homeopath used

the original machine and real (not programmed) homeopathic medicine

and supplements to actually heal us. He was so ahead of his time.

This machine made sense. It was an electrical device. When you

added in the correct medicine or supplement, the circuit was

complete. Wrong medicine or supplement, circuit was not completed.

We have also used some other machines that were helpful when used by

a medically trained individual. They were helpful in identifying

pathogens and allergens, as well as identifying homeopathic remedies

for treatment. And while I believe in the concept of " programmed "

medicines, I thoroughly believe that the real stuff is much better.

We have used both.

And we use NAET all the time, and that's another ineresting story.

.... Incidentally, I was harmed by the RIFE machine. Initially, I

thought I was getting great results, but had a session where I was

being treated for a fungus (aspergillis). My heart began beating

wildly, and I have had problems with irregular heartbeat/tachycardia

since. I think the concept of killing pathogens with frequencies is

a little...or more.. dangerous. We are being hit with dangerous

frequencies on a daily basis (electromagnetic fields and ELF fields --

extremely low frequencies) - which are exceedingly harmful. I'm not

sure you want to add more of those to the body.

One more thought on bio-feedback: Sometimes a body reacts when

something is " significant " . It doesn't necessarily mean that such

and such (like HIV or sarcoidosis) is real and present. It can mean

that the body recognizes that signature, and it rings a bell to the

body, and the body goes " Wait! That's a scary thought. "

Just my thoughts. Sorry, if I'm intruding.

Always, best wishes and better health to all.

judy

>

>

>

> Hi Sharon,

> Thanks. Things are definitely weird right now. The scio did pick

up sarcoidosis along with Lyme and parasites. I am a little freaked,

>

[Guest guest]

I can only address the beam ray.. is that like a EMEM mahine or more

like the KMT or another critter all together. The Emem has the tube

an you do not contact. Same with the Perl.. terribly expensive. Thank

you, Peggy, Sal

>

> Hi Sal,

> I am replying to the list since this maybe helpful to others. I

have a

> traditional rife machine. My son refused to use it. He hated the

> sensation.

>

> When I got deathly ill last summer, I saw a chiro in Nashville

(Brent

> ). Dr. is the maker of Spironil. Dr. 's big 3

consist

> of clearing emotional blockages,targeting infections with the

beamray,

> and using the AMD ionic footbaths. The beam ray consists of a

> monitor, keyboard, and a large flourescent tube. There are over

200

> programs on the unit, but the company has several hundred more in

their

> archives.

> The unit does not have to come anywhere near the person being

treated.

> We have the tube set up about 4 feet away. My son hangs out on the

bed

> and I zap him.

> I am very emf sensitive and find that I do better with the beam ray

than

> I do with a rife. It could be because I am not hooked up to

electrodes.

>

> On another note, for those that cannot afford a valkion there is a

> product called Opaline dry oxy. It was recommended to me by Dr.

Hildy

> Stanninger. She is the Morgellon's guru.

>

> This supplement increases oxygen to your system. It is cheap and

the

> company is really pleasant to deal with. If you order six of the

> products you get wholesale pricing.

>

> You can herx from it so go slow. I used to have low oxygenation

when

> tested on the scio and now my levels are normal. I do not think it

can

> replace the valkion, but it is a cheap alternative to oxygenate

your system.

>

> Before I forget what is OSR? I am rather clueless to all the

posts

> about it.

>

> Sharon, Once Diane tests you on the scio, we can use the beam ray

to

> treat . This way you won't have to be scanned as often.

The

> scio can tell you what the body wants at the time, but it does not

test

> for tolerance.

>

> Sorry for combining a lot of topics in one post. I am in the herx

from

> hell and I only have so much energy.

> Thanks,

> Peggy

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Judy,

Thanks for your input. In my opinion the scio is accurate, but like you

stated, you need a good practitioner. The scio also gives information

about the terrain being ripe for a type of illness. It does not mean

that you have it, it means it can develop. People who use this machine

need to know this in advance and the practitioner needs to be able to

tell the difference.

As for sarc, I have had the symptoms of it prior so I am fairly sure it

is an appropriate diagnosis.

I tend not to have the scio treat, just diagnose. I don't feel

comfortable with that and find better results using a " physical " remedy.

As for rife, you are right, you can get negative results. It could be

that you were having a bad die off reaction or that you are very

electrically sensitive. Again for those reasons I use a beam ray since

I do not have to come in contact with it. I find it effective and

gentler than a regular rife machine.

I also use a foot bath and drainage to detox after so I don't have to

experience a huge herx. This is just my approach.

Have a great day.

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Hi Sal,

It still uses rife technology, but I am not sure how it compares to the

other machines. I will look it up and let you know.

You are right it is really expensive. That is a major stumbling block.

Peggy

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Peggy. Sal

>

> Hi Sal,

> It still uses rife technology, but I am not sure how it compares to

the

> other machines. I will look it up and let you know.

> You are right it is really expensive. That is a major stumbling block.

> Peggy

>