Re: MDS Suspended from school

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The other form

of dicipline I use with him is 1,2,3 Magic. Have you heard of this?

By the time I get to 2 or 3 he stops doing whatever he is being

counted for. Sometimes it is so frustrating to handle our

kids....at times I wonder if I have the patience.

I use the 1.. 2... 3 magic with kaitee works the best of anything.

kaitee does a lot of hitting and slapping and spitting .... usually other kids who are picking on her .... she is also in the habbit of telling adults they are idiots .... time out chair doesnt work ... they wont even attempt it a second time with kaitee in school.... the first time scared teh doo doo outta them... when kaitee gets upset enough to cry it isnt pretty and it can be pretty scarey.... gasping for breath coughing choking .... whether it is intentional as a way to get out of being in trouble or not we cant decide.... but the sight of the time out chair can throw her into one of these fits..... she has a whole corner of the class room she is removed to to give her thinking time about what she did .... especially when it comes to hitting spitting or calling a teacher a idiot.....

at home if she hits usually her sister ..... I make her sit in the middle of the floor until she can admit she is wrong and apologize .... it doesnt happen to often at home but school the kids are always on each other .... debbi

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Hi Jeanne, I can imagine the frustration you feel with 's

school. Does the school schedule any meetings with you throughout

the year? If not, you can request an IEP meeting and have things

changed (in writing) if you are not satisfied. This is your

RIGHT!!! Maybe you already know this, but I thought I would mention

it. Jakob does not hit other people, but he will slap

his own face or hit the table. What I do when he does this is, very

calmly take his hands and tell him to slow down and try again. And I

make sure he knows I will help him if he stops hitting. I don't know

if it will work for but it's worth a try. The other form

of dicipline I use with him is 1,2,3 Magic. Have you heard of this?

By the time I get to 2 or 3 he stops doing whatever he is being

counted for. Sometimes it is so frustrating to handle our

kids....at times I wonder if I have the patience. But, hang in

there, I'm sure things will get better. And one more thing, don't

let the teachers intimidate you (as I did at first), I guess I have

learned to stand up for Jakob; because no one else is going to.

Anyway, I hope I helped and feel free to e-mail me anytime...Take

care! (Mom to Jakob,7)

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Hi Jeanne, Jakob had an exceptionally bad day today also. Nothing

is consistant with him either. Did you read the post from ?

This sounds very interesting and maybe it would work for our

children. After today I am willing to try anything!!!! Take care.

(Mom to Jakob,7)

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Dear , I was reading your post and was hoping you would send

us a copy of the behavior management plan. I never heard of this but

I am willing to try anything. Today Jakob had such a bad day and we

have tried everything from taking his favorite things away from him

to time outs. Nothing works!! He doesn't hit other people but

sometimes he will slap his own face or hit the table. He does not

listen to what we tell him and he constantly repeats whatever we

say. Somedays I think I need a time out!!! I know his doctor would

help me to set this up if he thought it would work. After I get your

information I could discuss it with him!!! Thank you for the very

interesting information!!!! Take care!! (Mom to Jakob,7)

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Debbi

does name calling also. After she had scratched the speech teacher and she brought her back to the class and put her in the time out chair, said to her "you are stupid". She also has other choice phrases I won't mention here. But I know it is because she doesn't know how to express what she is feeling.

Jeanne

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Debbi

does name calling also. After she had scratched the speech teacher and she brought her back to the class and put her in the time out chair, said to her "you are stupid". She also has other choice phrases I won't mention here. But I know it is because she doesn't know how to express what she is feeling.

Idiot is one of the polite names kaitee uses also. We own a towing company and a garage and a lot of our time are spent there and the girls are there..... for the most part the guys are really good about language and actions but every once in a while we get a sailor coming thru...... and kaitee will pick up on those words faster then any word she has ever picked up..... debbi ....

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Dear Kristy, I was reading your post about Tim and the problems he

had in school. I'm glad to hear the program that the school is using

is helping him.....now I have a question. Jakob's behavior at home is

the problem, not school. He is so mouthy and he does not listen to

anything Dave or I tell him...we have taken away T.V.,computer and

timed him out in his room. Nothing works, and I am to my wits

end!!! He definitely does not understand the concept of consequences

for his actions. Taking things away does not even work. If you have

any suggestions I would appreciate hearing them. I want to read the

behavioral management form from about Jimmy. How do I go about

finding a team like she talks about? Thank you in advance!

(Mom to Jakob, 7)

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,

I think when it comes to what you are talking about,

it is a matter of Jakob pushing your buttons.

Especially if he is NOT acting this way at school. My

suggestion is: First of all, be consistant. The very

second he says one thing that is " mouthy " remove him

from the situation.(ie. TV, games, toys) Now, I found

that if I sent Tim to his room, he would just play,

even if I told him not to play, he would. So, I would

put him in the hall way and make him sit. (In Jakob's

case make him sit 7 minutes since he is 7 yrs old)

Then I would talk with him and ask him why he was in

'time out' Then I would ask him what kind of words he

should have used to get what he wanted. Or how he

should have responded to you when you asked him to do

something. And tell him that you don't like those

sorts of words and that you want people to know what a

good boy he is.For his age, I would also make a chart.

This worked wonders for me! If the kids did a chore

they would get a star. If they used nice words all day

long, they would get a star.(sometimes this could be

shortened to half a day.If they use nice words half a

day they get a star, the other half they get another

star) Young children have trouble with the time span

of a whole day. You can add whatever fits for Jakob.

Then if he has a determined amount of stars that you

agree on, you could take him for an ice cream or take

him to the park. Let him help you make the chart. (You

would be surprised what he would want on it. My kids

added all sorts of behaviours that they knew they

needed improvement on) And have him " help " determine

the amount of stars and the reward.

Make sure that when he gets a star you make a big deal

about it. And allow him to put the stars up.

I have not seen this behavior plan that was

talking about. I must have missed something along the

way. I am curious about it, so if someone could get

that to me, I would appriciate it. Then maybe I could

answer your question on that.

Kristy

mommy17744

wrote: Dear Kristy, I was reading your post about Tim

and the problems he had in school. I'm glad to hear

the program that the school is using is helping

him.....now I have a question. Jakob's behavior at

home is the problem, not school. He is so mouthy and

he does not listen to anything Dave or I tell him...we

have taken away T.V.,computer and timed him out in his

room. Nothing works, and I am to my wits end!!! He

definitely does not understand the concept of

consequences for his actions. Taking things away does

not even work. If you have any suggestions I would

appreciate hearing them. I want to read the behavioral

management form from about Jimmy. How do I go

about finding a team like she talks about? Thank you

in advance! (Mom to Jakob, 7)Won't you please

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Hi Kristy, Thank you so much for the information. I will try it and let you know how it goes. The behavioral study that you are looking for is under FILES in our web site. I checked it out but I haven't had time to read Jimmy's whole plan. Take care!!!! :) Re: RE: MDS Suspended from school ,I think when it comes to what you are talking about,it is a matter of Jakob pushing your buttons.Especially if he is NOT acting this way at school. Mysuggestion is: First of all, be consistant. The verysecond he says one thing that is "mouthy" remove himfrom the situation.(ie. TV, games, toys) Now, I foundthat if I sent Tim to his room, he would just play,even if I told him not to play, he would. So, I wouldput him in the hall way and make him sit. (In Jakob'scase make him sit 7 minutes since he is 7 yrs old)Then I would talk with him and ask him why he was in'time out' Then I would ask him what kind of words heshould have used to get what he wanted. Or how heshould have responded to you when you asked him to dosomething. And tell him that you don't like thosesorts of words and that you want people to know what agood boy he is.For his age, I would also make a chart.This worked wonders for me! If the kids did a chorethey would get a star. If they used nice words all daylong, they would get a star.(sometimes this could beshortened to half a day.If they use nice words half aday they get a star, the other half they get anotherstar) Young children have trouble with the time spanof a whole day. You can add whatever fits for Jakob.Then if he has a determined amount of stars that youagree on, you could take him for an ice cream or takehim to the park. Let him help you make the chart. (Youwould be surprised what he would want on it. My kidsadded all sorts of behaviours that they knew theyneeded improvement on) And have him "help" determinethe amount of stars and the reward.Make sure that when he gets a star you make a big dealabout it. And allow him to put the stars up.I have not seen this behavior plan that wastalking about. I must have missed something along theway. I am curious about it, so if someone could getthat to me, I would appriciate it. Then maybe I couldanswer your question on that.Kristymommy17744wrote: Dear Kristy, I was reading your post about Timand the problems he had in school. I'm glad to hearthe program that the school is using is helpinghim.....now I have a question. Jakob's behavior athome is the problem, not school. He is so mouthy andhe does not listen to anything Dave or I tell him...wehave taken away T.V.,computer and timed him out in hisroom. Nothing works, and I am to my wits end!!! Hedefinitely does not understand the concept ofconsequences for his actions. Taking things away doesnot even work. If you have any suggestions I wouldappreciate hearing them. I want to read the behavioralmanagement form from about Jimmy. How do I goabout finding a team like she talks about? Thank youin advance! (Mom to Jakob, 7)Won't you pleaseconsider adding your personal story on the MDS websitetoday?http://www.mosaicdownsyndrome.com*************************************************MDSMESSAGE BOARD -http://www.mosaicdownsyndrome.com/discus*************************************************Tounsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to:MosaicDS-unsubscribeegroups*************************************************Getyour free pet domain WebMail:http://www.preciouspets.org/email.htm#welcome Your useof Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/__________________________________________________