Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Jay: Interesting but again with no (as yet) clinical implication. I do not agree with their premise that it is largely genetic, but an interplay between genetic factors and triggers in the form of toxic insults to the fetus or infant. The prevailing notion that genes are cast in stone has been happily knocked off its base with the recent studies showing environmental (nutrition, toxins, etc) influences on genetic expression via the methylation process. Dr. JM SLC25A12 gene assiciated with autism - , your comments ? Linkage and Association of the Mitochondrial Aspartate/Glutamate r SLC25A12 Gene With Autism Nicolas Ramoz, Ph.D., G. Reichert, B.Sc., J. , Ph.D., M. Silverman, Ph.D., Irina N. Bespalova, Ph.D., L. , M.D., and ph D. Buxbaum, Ph.D. OBJECTIVE: Autism/autistic disorder (MIM number 209850) is a complex, largely genetic psychiatric disorder. The authors recently mapped a susceptibility locus for autism to chromosome region 2q24-q33 (MIM number 606053). In the present study, genes across the 2q24-q33 interval were analyzed to identify an autism susceptibility gene in this region. METHOD: Mutation screening of positional candidate genes was performed in two stages. The first stage involved identifying, in unrelated subjects showing linkage to 2q24-q33, genetic variants in exons and flanking sequence within candidate genes and comparing the frequency of the variants between autistic and unrelated nonautistic subjects. Two single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) that showed evidence for divergent distribution between autistic and nonautistic subjects were identified, both within SLC25A12, a gene encoding the mitochondrial aspartate/glutamate carrier (AGC1). In the second stage, the two SNPs in SLC25A12 were fur! ther genotyped in 411 autistic families, and linkage and association tests were carried out in the 197 informative families. RESULTS: Linkage and association were observed between autistic disorder and the two SNPs, rs2056202 and rs2292813, found in SLC25A12. Using either a single affected subject per family or all affected subjects, evidence for excess transmission was found by the Transmission Disequilibrium Test for rs2056202, rs2292813, and a two-locus G*G haplotype. Similar results were observed using TRANSMIT for the analyses. Evidence for linkage was supported by linkage analysis with the two SNPs, with a maximal multipoint nonparametric linkage score of 1.57 and a maximal multipoint heterogeneity lod score of 2.11. Genotype relative risk could be estimated to be between 2.4 and 4.8 for persons homozygous at these loci. CONCLUSIONS: A strong association of autism with SNPs within the SLC25A12 gene was demonstrated. Further studies are needed to confirm this association an! d to decipher any potential etiological role of AGC1 in autism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Jay, The SLC25A12 finding is likely to be similar to the findings about pro-celiac alleles, weak MTFHR alleles, weak GSH alleles, null alleles of C4b, etc. As previously written, " The pro-celiac alleles are more prevalent among folks with celiac, even as many and perhaps most folks with the pro-celiac alleles don't develop celiac disease. This relationship is similar to the allele findings I've seen at the recent DAN! conferences. Many kids w/o autism have the impaired alleles (eg, MTHFR), even as some of the impaired alleles occur with a slightly higher frequency among kids with autism. " Earlier today, Derrick asked an essential question: " We keep accumulating information, but how does it help the much beleagured clinician? " Several physicians have asked me, where is the balance for parents with limited funds? Should they invest in genomics testing at this time? Would a weak-allele finding in a child alter therapy if, for many kids, the same pathway can be adversely impacted by acquired reasons (eg, low GSH due to low AAs and low minerals due to chronic gastro pathology)? In other words and for example, circa 2004, regardless of a given MTHFR weak allele or not, the same supplement and injection therapies may be warranted and helpful. Thus the parent's limited funds may be better spent on mB12, supplements, AA follow ups, OAT, etc. In contrast, from a research perspective and in regard to proving why the various autism therapies are helpful, the genomic findings are extremely important, and even their softness is important, because what's so strongly implicated are the role of environmental factors and the role of timings and bunchings of environmental factors. Regarding the SCL25A12 gene's association with autism: the finding reinforces other mito findings in autism and also reinforces the various therapies that I hear interpreted by some physicians and by some parents as, we're hoping via this therapy (eg, therapies, X, Y, and Z) to improve mito function. A converse of that logic is, Can acquired pathologies impair mito function? Can supplements and other therapies reverse those acquired mito impairments? Also, would a weak genetic allele (eg, SLC25A12) create intro-mito conditions that can be alleviated via supplements, vitamins, etc? Consider celiac disease, what's more important: proving that the individual has one of the pro-celiac alleles or removing gluten? The first option provides no clinical improvement. Regardless of the genomic background, removing gluten helps muchly. jay krishnaa wrote: >Linkage and Association of the Mitochondrial Aspartate/Glutamate r SLC25A12 Gene With Autism Nicolas Ramoz, Ph.D., G. Reichert, B.Sc., J. , Ph.D., M. Silverman, Ph.D., Irina N. Bespalova, Ph.D., L. , M.D., and ph D. Buxbaum, Ph.D. >OBJECTIVE: Autism/autistic disorder (MIM number 209850) is a complex, largely genetic psychiatric disorder. The authors recently mapped a susceptibility locus for autism to chromosome region 2q24-q33 (MIM number 606053). In the present study, genes across the 2q24-q33 interval were analyzed to identify an autism susceptibility gene in this region. METHOD: Mutation screening of positional candidate genes was performed in two stages. The first stage involved identifying, in unrelated subjects showing linkage to 2q24-q33, genetic variants in exons and flanking sequence within candidate genes and comparing the frequency of the variants between autistic and unrelated nonautistic subjects. Two single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) that showed evidence for divergent distribution between autistic and nonautistic subjects were identified, both within SLC25A12, a gene encoding the mitochondrial aspartate/glutamate carrier (AGC1). In the second stage, the two SNPs in SLC25A12 were further > genotyped in 411 autistic families, and linkage and association tests were carried out in the 197 informative families. RESULTS: Linkage and association were observed between autistic disorder and the two SNPs, rs2056202 and rs2292813, found in SLC25A12. Using either a single affected subject per family or all affected subjects, evidence for excess transmission was found by the Transmission Disequilibrium Test for rs2056202, rs2292813, and a two-locus G*G haplotype. Similar results were observed using TRANSMIT for the analyses. Evidence for linkage was supported by linkage analysis with the two SNPs, with a maximal multipoint nonparametric linkage score of 1.57 and a maximal multipoint heterogeneity lod score of 2.11. Genotype relative risk could be estimated to be between 2.4 and 4.8 for persons homozygous at these loci. CONCLUSIONS: A strong association of autism with SNPs within the SLC25A12 gene was demonstrated. Further studies are needed to confirm this association and to > decipher any potential etiological role of AGC1 in autism. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 , Thank you so much for your response. Due to these several weak alleles findings that are associated with autism, is it possible that kids with multiple weak alleles are more susceptible to autism ? For example, autistic kids with MTHFR mutation may also have some other mutation(s)that may not be present in NT kids with MTHFR mutation ? Thanks once again. I really appreciate your informative posts. Jay > > >Linkage and Association of the Mitochondrial Aspartate/Glutamate r SLC25A12 Gene With Autism Nicolas Ramoz, Ph.D., G. Reichert, B.Sc., J. , Ph.D., M. Silverman, Ph.D., Irina N. Bespalova, Ph.D., L. , M.D., and ph D. Buxbaum, Ph.D. > >OBJECTIVE: Autism/autistic disorder (MIM number 209850) is a complex, largely genetic psychiatric disorder. The authors recently mapped a susceptibility locus for autism to chromosome region 2q24- q33 (MIM number 606053). In the present study, genes across the 2q24- q33 interval were analyzed to identify an autism susceptibility gene in this region. METHOD: Mutation screening of positional candidate genes was performed in two stages. The first stage involved identifying, in unrelated subjects showing linkage to 2q24-q33, genetic variants in exons and flanking sequence within candidate genes and comparing the frequency of the variants between autistic and unrelated nonautistic subjects. Two single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) that showed evidence for divergent distribution between autistic and nonautistic subjects were identified, both within SLC25A12, a gene encoding the mitochondrial aspartate/glutamate carrier (AGC1). In the second stage, the two SNPs in SLC25A12 were further > > genotyped in 411 autistic families, and linkage and association tests were carried out in the 197 informative families. RESULTS: Linkage and association were observed between autistic disorder and the two SNPs, rs2056202 and rs2292813, found in SLC25A12. Using either a single affected subject per family or all affected subjects, evidence for excess transmission was found by the Transmission Disequilibrium Test for rs2056202, rs2292813, and a two- locus G*G haplotype. Similar results were observed using TRANSMIT for the analyses. Evidence for linkage was supported by linkage analysis with the two SNPs, with a maximal multipoint nonparametric linkage score of 1.57 and a maximal multipoint heterogeneity lod score of 2.11. Genotype relative risk could be estimated to be between 2.4 and 4.8 for persons homozygous at these loci. CONCLUSIONS: A strong association of autism with SNPs within the SLC25A12 gene was demonstrated. Further studies are needed to confirm this association and to > > decipher any potential etiological role of AGC1 in autism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Thank you, Dr.McCandless. It looks like the mainstream medicine rarely looks at the environmental causes for any disease and only focuses on the genetic part. They are doing the same thing with autism and especially since pharmaceutical companies are involved. Jay > > Jay: Interesting but again with no (as yet) clinical implication. I do not agree with their premise that it is largely genetic, but an interplay between genetic factors and triggers in the form of toxic insults to the fetus or infant. The prevailing notion that genes are cast in stone has been happily knocked off its base with the recent studies showing environmental (nutrition, toxins, etc) influences on genetic expression via the methylation process. Dr. JM SLC25A12 gene assiciated with autism - , your comments ? > > > Linkage and Association of the Mitochondrial Aspartate/Glutamate r SLC25A12 Gene With Autism Nicolas Ramoz, Ph.D., G. Reichert, B.Sc., J. , Ph.D., M. Silverman, Ph.D., Irina N. Bespalova, Ph.D., L. , M.D., and ph D. Buxbaum, Ph.D. > OBJECTIVE: Autism/autistic disorder (MIM number 209850) is a complex, largely genetic psychiatric disorder. The authors recently mapped a susceptibility locus for autism to chromosome region 2q24- q33 (MIM number 606053). In the present study, genes across the 2q24- q33 interval were analyzed to identify an autism susceptibility gene in this region. METHOD: Mutation screening of positional candidate genes was performed in two stages. The first stage involved identifying, in unrelated subjects showing linkage to 2q24-q33, genetic variants in exons and flanking sequence within candidate genes and comparing the frequency of the variants between autistic and unrelated nonautistic subjects. Two single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) that showed evidence for divergent distribution between autistic and nonautistic subjects were identified, both within SLC25A12, a gene encoding the mitochondrial aspartate/glutamate carrier (AGC1). In the second stage, the two SNPs in SLC25A12 were fur! ther > genotyped in 411 autistic families, and linkage and association tests were carried out in the 197 informative families. RESULTS: Linkage and association were observed between autistic disorder and the two SNPs, rs2056202 and rs2292813, found in SLC25A12. Using either a single affected subject per family or all affected subjects, evidence for excess transmission was found by the Transmission Disequilibrium Test for rs2056202, rs2292813, and a two- locus G*G haplotype. Similar results were observed using TRANSMIT for the analyses. Evidence for linkage was supported by linkage analysis with the two SNPs, with a maximal multipoint nonparametric linkage score of 1.57 and a maximal multipoint heterogeneity lod score of 2.11. Genotype relative risk could be estimated to be between 2.4 and 4.8 for persons homozygous at these loci. CONCLUSIONS: A strong association of autism with SNPs within the SLC25A12 gene was demonstrated. Further studies are needed to confirm this association an! d to > decipher any potential etiological role of AGC1 in autism. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 " is it possible that kids with multiple weak alleles are more susceptible to autism? " Absolutely, and someday even NIH researchers will consider the combined effects of immune-related genes (eg, RP Warren et al findings) and methionine/GSH-related genes. In the long run, there will be a range of alleles in autistic kids: Group A: No findable weak alleles relevant to autism Group B: One or two findable weak alleles Group C: Three or four or five weak alleles Group D: Six and more weak alleles. Probably, kids with 2-4 weak alleles will comprise the largest subgroup. And for each child within each subgroup, medical histories are likely to be quite instructive. In the long run, supplement strategies may become nuanced in accord with with gene alleles are weak, especially after GI healing and Nutritional Status have been optimized. jkrishnaa wrote: >, > >Thank you so much for your response. Due to these several weak >alleles findings that are associated with autism, is it possible >that kids with multiple weak alleles are more susceptible to >autism ? For example, autistic kids with MTHFR mutation may also >have some other mutation(s)that may not be present in NT kids with >MTHFR mutation ? > >Thanks once again. I really appreciate your informative posts. > >Jay > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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