Re: OSR/ Measels & vitamin A/ Dr. Klinghardt

October 11, 2008

Rita,

I thank you from bottom of my heart. Your encouragement and generosity are

deeply appreciated. Thanks much for sending Valkion and the activated

water, so we out-of-towners got a chance to try. When Valkion arrived that

morning, the waiting room at Dr. E's office was full. A few of us

also had multiple appointments with her, so after setting up Valkion for

several children to try, Dr. E seemed to be a bit stressed out. Dr. Amy

came to help.

Dr. E is usually cool, energetic, and sharp. It is nice to receive

healthcare and

treatments from a professional who is confident and knows her stuff well.

I agree with you that Ingvar's body loves cold laser. He responded well to

cold

laser since our first LED treatment last summer. I hope Lightworks can

bring him

to another layer of healing. I will keep Valkion within my radar and look

into it more next year.

I am actually taking a long break from LDM-100. For the time being I am

afraid that Ingvar's body is not ready for this strong anti-viral herb, and

I plan to increase the dosage of Monolaurid, Olive Leaf Extract, and vitamin

A - focusing on these first-line antiviral first. We did one round of 2

months on LDM-100 early summer. Ingvar started having potty accidents after

a couple days of using LDM-100. The accidents lasted for about 10 days and

subsided, and I continually pushed the dosage forward. Then he started

having hand flipping, involunteering head shaking, and having facial tics.

These symptoms lasted the entire time when on the herb. I took a one-month

break; all symptoms gradually went away within one week. Then I

reintroduced the herb when we were in Norway visiting my in-laws. The

second day Ingvar's potty accidents resumed. This time I stopped after 4

days on the herb, because we were traveling, and it was not convenient to

deal with those accidents. When we were back in the States, I brought

LDM-100 to our local LED practitioner for muscle testing. He told me that

it was not because the single herb induced all those symptoms, but the

combination of Cumanda, Banderol, and LDM-100 was not good for Ingvar. I am

still in the process of building up Cumanda dosage to what Dr. Cowden

recently recommended for Ingvar - 270 drops daily. So I will set LDM-100

aside for now.

Here is my part II update on our visit in Seattle:

After Dr. Klinghardt asked me if I recently gave vitamin A to Ingvar, he

then asked me how I delivered Ingvar. I told him that Ingvar was born via

C-section. He immediately said that I needed to receive a shot of procaine

to heal my incision scar. He said that mother's scar not only blocks the

energy field of her own, but also blocks the energy field of her children.

I received procaine injection from Dr. Kamble - one of Dr. K's assistants.

I almost cried out when lying on the procedure table. The shot did not

cause pain. It was just that when Dr. Kamble injected procaine into me

among the scar, my memory suddenly fast backward to that early morning when

my husband drove me from our home in the east bay of SF to the city for my

scheduled C-section. I remembered that on our drive I was praying for the

operation to go smoothly, and I was praying for the health and happiness of

my yet-to-meet-for-the-first-time son. Lying on the table for receiving

procaine injection, I prayed for his healing. Dr. Kamble sensed my

emotions and asked if I was alright. She then told me that some moms have

emotional releasing when receiving procaine injection on C-section scar.

Dr. K commented that Ingvar's kidneys have weakness and do not function

optimally for detox. I have been suspecting this, because Ingvar usually

excreted metals via stools better than via urine. He recommended a

homeopathic remedy called Unda 243 to protect the kidneys.

Dr. K also commented that Ingvar's testosterone was too high and recommended

a high potency homeopathic Testosterone to down-regulate his testosterone.

(Per Dr. Geier, high level of testosterone interferes glutathione synthesis.

Testosterone and mercury directly bind to form a big sheet, which enzyme

can't break in, and chelators can't go in. I am hoping that by

down-regulating Ingvar's level of testosterone, this remedy can help Ingvar

to be a better metal excreter.)

He recommended green clay to heal the gut, and 5 in 1 tincture and Gamma and

Zeta Rizole Oil to treat Lyme and coinfectors.

He also recommended a product called Max Stress B Nano-Plex to replace all

other B vitamin supplements Ingvar was taking, except for Methyl B12

injection. Max Stress B contains a synergistic blend of beneficial flora,

which is said to produce B vitamins in the body naturally.

Limin

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Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 23:15

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: Sulfur problem and

pertussis/ OSR/ Measels & vitamin A

> Pramila,

> I'm going to second that LED to help with your Sulfur, it's what

> really helped as well.

>

> Limin,

> THANK YOU so much for your post (I know you were through A LOT when

> you were here, and am glad to see your posts in whatever method you

> can do them, they are truely appreciated!!)

> Here's my thoughts on him breaking out starting with the QN. The QN

> has shown to stimulate the system (including Lymph), reduce

> inflamation, and increase blood flow. The cold laser light

> (especially pulsing) also helps restore cellular function. I find it

> absolutely facinating that he broke out with the start of QN (4-5

> days after you did the treatment). It appears to me (novice that I

> am) that his system exploded detoxing the system with the help and

> support of the QN cold laser, almost like turning on a light bulb.

> It's almost like that is what it was craving to get the detox

> moving. I am so excited...I think you are on the cutting edge of

> some real healing moving forward. I think the home cold laser will

> also help him. It will be good for his digestion as much as

> everything else.

>

> Just out of curiosity, for the Measle and Ruebella, how did he test

> to LDM-100? My thinking is with this is you would not have to worry

> about his system breaking down the fats and LDM-100 can be so good

> for MMR if their body wants it. He might not be ready for it though.

> One thing we do know is his body Loves cold laser.

> Thank you again for your update! I could not be more pleased for

> you, he's detoxing the crap!!!!

> Hugs!

> Rita

>

>>

>> Hi Limin,

>> He has the milder CBS mutation too. I really think its the

> combination of heavy metals, biotoxins etc. and most likely his

> phase 1 and/or 2 liver detox is not great.

>> I have tried Molybdenum, glycine etc.

>> I havent done much DMPS at all, just a lot of CaEDTA.

>>

>> Thanks for your description of the LEDs. I should think of that.

>> Dr Amy gave me some form of Vit A. I am pretty sure its synthetic.

> I can look it up...

>>

>> Pramila

>>

>> Re: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Sulfur

> problem

>> and pertussis

>>

>> Limin...did Dr. K

>> ART test Ingvar for OSR or did he just recommend it?

>>

>> I don't think OSR

>> has glutathione in it, but I do think that it's purpose is to help

> the body make

>> glutathione so that it can begin excreting naturally. Maybe I'm

> wrong, but

>> that's what I thought it did.

>>

>> It is like peeling

>> layers of an onion. One thing that we've found after peeling and

> peeling,

>> is that a sensitive core awaits. I'm trying to figure out how to

> toughen

>> us up so we aren't so sensitive to every little thing.

>>

>> Tami Duncan

>> President and Co-Founder

>> www.liafoundation. org

>> Read about the Lyme-Autism Connection in

>> the new book by Rosner. Purchase online at:

> www.liafoundation. org

>>

>> Join our online support group

>> at:

>> BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism -subscribe@

>> yahoogroups. com

>>

>> In a message dated 10/8/2008 6:13:07

>> P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, liminslett (DOT) net writes:

>>

>> Sometimes ago Tami posted that Dr. Toby mentioned to her that

> Pertussis bacteria bind to sulfur, and addressing Pertussis

> infection can help the body to be relieved from the problem of

> sulfur and sulfur byproducts buildup, which is commonly observed in

> ASD children. Over the year Ingvar have been swept

> homeopathic " Sulfa " twice using cold laser to detoxify sulfur and

> its byproducts. Because we continued chelating him with ALA, DMSA,

> DMPS, and NDF, sulfur seems to always build up again over time.

> Last week when Ingvar was at Dr. 's to receive an Asyra

> screening, for the first time sulfur no long appeared to be one of

> the primary stressor for him. But guess what? Pertussis showed up

> as one of the primary stressors, and Asyra prioritizes it to be

> detoxified with Ingvar's first LED treatment this round.

>>

>> I think that Dr. Cowden's Asyra/LED detox protocol is like

> pealing layers of onion. When we pealed out the sulfur layer,

> which have been requiring the body's resource such as molybdenum to

> detoxify, now we can encounter and deal with the bacteria that have

> been utilizing sulfur for their own growth and secretion of

> bacterial toxins. I found the study at the link below. It

> explains the relationship between Pertussis and sulfur, especially

> reduced glutathione as well as cysteine being the major source of

> sulfur for the bacteria.

>>

>> http://www.pubmedce ntral.nih. gov/articlerende r.fcgi?artid=

> 148887

>>

>> To give or not to give GSH is the question! I recalled that Dr.

> Klinghardt warned at the recent LIA conference: Supplementing GSH

> when the body bacterial load is still high will just promote

> bacterial growth. However, both Dr. Cowden and Dr. Klinghardt

> recommended OSR for Ingvar. Perhaps how OSR works to promote the

> production of GSH at cellular level is very different from directly

> supplemented GSH in the body. Any thoughts?

>>

>> Limin

>>

>> ________________________________

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October 12, 2008

Hi Limin,

Thanks so much for sharing as well as everybody else that shared about their trip. Just wanted to ask what type of clay Dr. K recommended.

Thanks,

Sharon

You wrote:

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October 12, 2008

Sharon,

Dr. K now adopts Lalama's recommendation to recommend French Green Clay. You can search 's website for further information: http://www.reversingautism.org/

Can anyone who have used the French Green Clay post where they order the clay and pros/cons of the clay? My main hesitation is aluminum in the clay. Ingvar has not been able to excrete aluminum.

Limin

From: slkbrooke@...

Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 04:01

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Subject: Re: OSR/ Measels & vitamin A/ Dr. Klinghardt

Hi Limin,

Thanks so much for sharing as well as everybody else that shared about their trip. Just wanted to ask what type of clay Dr. K recommended.

Thanks,

Sharon

You wrote:

He recommended green clay to heal the gut, and 5 in 1 tincture and Gamma andZeta Rizole Oil to treat Lyme and coinfectors

New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!

October 12, 2008

Limin,

I don't really know since I'm not a chemist or scientist but I wonder

if aluminum is just part of the structure of the clay. We used

zeolites to detoxify and aluminum is actually part of the molecule.

It is not broken down or absorbed by the body. The people who do the

urine challenge tests have had varying results with aluminum. Some

have dumped huge amounts and others very little. The electrical

charge actually attracts aluminum to it.

I'm really just guessing but I would think that the clay could be the

same. I'll email a bio-chemist who owns the patent for the product I

use and ask him since he's researched a lot of the detox products out

there.

I took various forms of clay for years when I lived in Germany, mainly

the brown one since it was cheapest. I just bought it at the

drugstore. Combined with a lot of fiber it really helped my bowels

and I also made a facial mask out of it. It didn't help for our metal

toxicity though. I worked at a holistic MD's office at the time and

she'd regularly scan us on her EAV. The metals never dropped.

Sharon

> He recommended green clay to heal the gut, and 5 in 1 tincture and

Gamma and

> Zeta Rizole Oil to treat Lyme and coinfectors

>

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October 12, 2008

we are using it and I LOVE it. luka is really lot better on it.

the only neg bit the first time around he started getting really very pale after about 2 weeks of it so we stopped. do not know for absolute certain that it was because of clay though. If it starts happening this time around I plan on multimineral see if that helps. But behaviour wise it was great, and also did clear the bowels nicely straight away.

I also use it for myself and it has helped me enormously with constipation

I only make one glass, with one teaspoon full, and drink half of the clear liquid it in the morning and ds has half

natasa

Sharon,

Dr. K now adopts Lalama's recommendation to recommend French Green Clay. You can search 's website for further information:

http://www.reversingautism.org/ <http://www.reversingautism.org/>

Can anyone who have used the French Green Clay post where they order the clay and pros/cons of the clay? My main hesitation is aluminum in the clay. Ingvar has not been able to excrete aluminum.

Limin

From: slkbrooke@...

Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 04:01

To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism

Subject: Re: OSR/ Measels & vitamin A/ Dr. Klinghardt

Hi Limin,

Thanks so much for sharing as well as everybody else that shared about their trip. Just wanted to ask what type of clay Dr. K recommended.

Thanks,

Sharon

You wrote:

He recommended green clay to heal the gut, and 5 in 1 tincture and Gamma and

Zeta Rizole Oil to treat Lyme and coinfectors

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October 13, 2008

Sharon,

Ingvar is a big gut kid. I have learned for quite sometime that the green

clay patches up leaking gut, and allows the gut to heal, but I have been

feeling hesitant because of aluminum in the clay. I appreciate if you can

provide me with further information on the clay, after the biochemist

getting back to you. Thank you.

Limin

--------------------------------------------------

Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 09:56

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: OSR/ Measels & vitamin A/

Dr. Klinghardt

> Limin,

>

> I don't really know since I'm not a chemist or scientist but I wonder

> if aluminum is just part of the structure of the clay. We used

> zeolites to detoxify and aluminum is actually part of the molecule.

> It is not broken down or absorbed by the body. The people who do the

> urine challenge tests have had varying results with aluminum. Some

> have dumped huge amounts and others very little. The electrical

> charge actually attracts aluminum to it.

>

> I'm really just guessing but I would think that the clay could be the

> same. I'll email a bio-chemist who owns the patent for the product I

> use and ask him since he's researched a lot of the detox products out

> there.

>

> I took various forms of clay for years when I lived in Germany, mainly

> the brown one since it was cheapest. I just bought it at the

> drugstore. Combined with a lot of fiber it really helped my bowels

> and I also made a facial mask out of it. It didn't help for our metal

> toxicity though. I worked at a holistic MD's office at the time and

> she'd regularly scan us on her EAV. The metals never dropped.

>

> Sharon

>

>> He recommended green clay to heal the gut, and 5 in 1 tincture and

> Gamma and

>> Zeta Rizole Oil to treat Lyme and coinfectors

>>

>

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October 13, 2008

Dear Limin,

very glad to read your update on the trip. We are using high dose of

Vit A right now, weekly 1 time, build up to 50,000iu as per Dr. U.

Any different comment from Dr. K, hope to share from you.

Max Stress B Nano-Plex, any specific sources or where to order?

Lauricidin and Monolaurin are both for anti-inflmmation

supplements,like the viral stop..etc..why it is recommended with

meal? Which source do you order the Monolaurin, we have same issue

of swallowing also.

All the best,

Corinna

> >>

> >> Hi Limin,

> >> He has the milder CBS mutation too. I really think its the

> > combination of heavy metals, biotoxins etc. and most likely his

> > phase 1 and/or 2 liver detox is not great.

> >> I have tried Molybdenum, glycine etc.

> >> I havent done much DMPS at all, just a lot of CaEDTA.

> >>

> >> Thanks for your description of the LEDs. I should think of that.

> >> Dr Amy gave me some form of Vit A. I am pretty sure its

synthetic.

> > I can look it up...

> >>

> >> Pramila

> >>

> >> Re: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Sulfur

> > problem

> >> and pertussis

> >>

> >> Limin...did Dr. K

> >> ART test Ingvar for OSR or did he just recommend it?

> >>

> >> I don't think OSR

> >> has glutathione in it, but I do think that it's purpose is to

help

> > the body make

> >> glutathione so that it can begin excreting naturally. Maybe I'm

> > wrong, but

> >> that's what I thought it did.

> >>

> >> It is like peeling

> >> layers of an onion. One thing that we've found after peeling

and

> > peeling,

> >> is that a sensitive core awaits. I'm trying to figure out how

to

> > toughen

> >> us up so we aren't so sensitive to every little thing.

> >>

> >> Tami Duncan

> >> President and Co-Founder

> >> www.liafoundation. org

> >> Read about the Lyme-Autism Connection in

> >> the new book by Rosner. Purchase online at:

> > www.liafoundation. org

> >>

> >> Join our online support group

> >> at:

> >> BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism -subscribe@

> >> yahoogroups. com

> >>

> >> In a message dated 10/8/2008 6:13:07

> >> P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, liminslett (DOT) net writes:

> >>

> >> Sometimes ago Tami posted that Dr. Toby mentioned to her that

> > Pertussis bacteria bind to sulfur, and addressing Pertussis

> > infection can help the body to be relieved from the problem of

> > sulfur and sulfur byproducts buildup, which is commonly

observed in

> > ASD children. Over the year Ingvar have been swept

> > homeopathic " Sulfa " twice using cold laser to detoxify sulfur

and

> > its byproducts. Because we continued chelating him with ALA,

DMSA,

> > DMPS, and NDF, sulfur seems to always build up again over time.

> > Last week when Ingvar was at Dr. 's to receive an Asyra

> > screening, for the first time sulfur no long appeared to be one

of

> > the primary stressor for him. But guess what? Pertussis

showed up

> > as one of the primary stressors, and Asyra prioritizes it to be

> > detoxified with Ingvar's first LED treatment this round.

> >>

> >> I think that Dr. Cowden's Asyra/LED detox protocol is like

> > pealing layers of onion. When we pealed out the sulfur layer,

> > which have been requiring the body's resource such as

molybdenum to

> > detoxify, now we can encounter and deal with the bacteria that

have

> > been utilizing sulfur for their own growth and secretion of

> > bacterial toxins. I found the study at the link below. It

> > explains the relationship between Pertussis and sulfur,

especially

> > reduced glutathione as well as cysteine being the major source

of

> > sulfur for the bacteria.

> >>

> >> http://www.pubmedce ntral.nih. gov/articlerende r.fcgi?artid=

> > 148887

> >>

> >> To give or not to give GSH is the question! I recalled that

Dr.

> > Klinghardt warned at the recent LIA conference: Supplementing GSH

> > when the body bacterial load is still high will just promote

> > bacterial growth. However, both Dr. Cowden and Dr. Klinghardt

> > recommended OSR for Ingvar. Perhaps how OSR works to promote

the

> > production of GSH at cellular level is very different from

directly

> > supplemented GSH in the body. Any thoughts?

> >>

> >> Limin

> >>

> >> ________________________________

> >> New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination.

> > Dining,

> >> Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!

> >>

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

October 13, 2008

Corinna,

On the bottle of Ecological Formulas, it indicates to take Monolaurin with

meals. Both Lauricindin and Monlaurin are fatty acids. In view of ASD

children's digestion system dysfunction, taking these fatty acids at

mealtime with help from digestive enzymes can enhance absorption. If you

also use systemic enzymes such as Virastop and/or Lumbrokinase, you want to

make sure taking fatty acids 2 hours away from systemic enzymes, so the

systemic enzymes have a change to go into the bloodstream to dissolve the

outer coating of viruses or fibrins, in stead of digesting fatty acids in

the stomach. The same theory should be applicable to the use of high dose

vitamin A. What brand of vitamin A does Dr. Usman recommend for high dose

protocol?

I got Monolaurin from Ingvar's OT, who has a health professional account.

You can google to find websites that carry it.

I got Max Stress B Nano-Plex from Dr. K's office. Here is one of the

websites that carry it:

https://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/max-stress-b-2oz-p-premier-research.html

Limin

--------------------------------------------------

Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 01:36

To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism >

Subject: Re: OSR/ Measels & vitamin A/

Dr. Klinghardt

> Dear Limin,

> very glad to read your update on the trip. We are using high dose of

> Vit A right now, weekly 1 time, build up to 50,000iu as per Dr. U.

> Any different comment from Dr. K, hope to share from you.

>

> Max Stress B Nano-Plex, any specific sources or where to order?

>

> Lauricidin and Monolaurin are both for anti-inflmmation

> supplements,like the viral stop..etc..why it is recommended with

> meal? Which source do you order the Monolaurin, we have same issue

> of swallowing also.

>

> All the best,

> Corinna

>

>> >>

>> >> Hi Limin,

>> >> He has the milder CBS mutation too. I really think its the

>> > combination of heavy metals, biotoxins etc. and most likely his

>> > phase 1 and/or 2 liver detox is not great.

>> >> I have tried Molybdenum, glycine etc.

>> >> I havent done much DMPS at all, just a lot of CaEDTA.

>> >>

>> >> Thanks for your description of the LEDs. I should think of that.

>> >> Dr Amy gave me some form of Vit A. I am pretty sure its

> synthetic.

>> > I can look it up...

>> >>

>> >> Pramila

>> >>

>> >> Re: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Sulfur

>> > problem

>> >> and pertussis

>> >>

>> >> Limin...did Dr. K

>> >> ART test Ingvar for OSR or did he just recommend it?

>> >>

>> >> I don't think OSR

>> >> has glutathione in it, but I do think that it's purpose is to

> help

>> > the body make

>> >> glutathione so that it can begin excreting naturally. Maybe I'm

>> > wrong, but

>> >> that's what I thought it did.

>> >>

>> >> It is like peeling

>> >> layers of an onion. One thing that we've found after peeling

> and

>> > peeling,

>> >> is that a sensitive core awaits. I'm trying to figure out how

> to

>> > toughen

>> >> us up so we aren't so sensitive to every little thing.

>> >>

>> >> Tami Duncan

>> >> President and Co-Founder

>> >> www.liafoundation. org

>> >> Read about the Lyme-Autism Connection in

>> >> the new book by Rosner. Purchase online at:

>> > www.liafoundation. org

>> >>

>> >> Join our online support group

>> >> at:

>> >> BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism -subscribe@

>> >> yahoogroups. com

>> >>

>> >> In a message dated 10/8/2008 6:13:07

>> >> P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, liminslett (DOT) net writes:

>> >>

>> >> Sometimes ago Tami posted that Dr. Toby mentioned to her that

>> > Pertussis bacteria bind to sulfur, and addressing Pertussis

>> > infection can help the body to be relieved from the problem of

>> > sulfur and sulfur byproducts buildup, which is commonly

> observed in

>> > ASD children. Over the year Ingvar have been swept

>> > homeopathic " Sulfa " twice using cold laser to detoxify sulfur

> and

>> > its byproducts. Because we continued chelating him with ALA,

> DMSA,

>> > DMPS, and NDF, sulfur seems to always build up again over time.

>> > Last week when Ingvar was at Dr. 's to receive an Asyra

>> > screening, for the first time sulfur no long appeared to be one

> of

>> > the primary stressor for him. But guess what? Pertussis

> showed up

>> > as one of the primary stressors, and Asyra prioritizes it to be

>> > detoxified with Ingvar's first LED treatment this round.

>> >>

>> >> I think that Dr. Cowden's Asyra/LED detox protocol is like

>> > pealing layers of onion. When we pealed out the sulfur layer,

>> > which have been requiring the body's resource such as

> molybdenum to

>> > detoxify, now we can encounter and deal with the bacteria that

> have

>> > been utilizing sulfur for their own growth and secretion of

>> > bacterial toxins. I found the study at the link below. It

>> > explains the relationship between Pertussis and sulfur,

> especially

>> > reduced glutathione as well as cysteine being the major source

> of

>> > sulfur for the bacteria.

>> >>

>> >> http://www.pubmedce ntral.nih. gov/articlerende r.fcgi?artid=

>> > 148887

>> >>

>> >> To give or not to give GSH is the question! I recalled that

> Dr.

>> > Klinghardt warned at the recent LIA conference: Supplementing GSH

>> > when the body bacterial load is still high will just promote

>> > bacterial growth. However, both Dr. Cowden and Dr. Klinghardt

>> > recommended OSR for Ingvar. Perhaps how OSR works to promote

> the

>> > production of GSH at cellular level is very different from

> directly

>> > supplemented GSH in the body. Any thoughts?

>> >>

>> >> Limin

>> >>

>> >> ________________________________

>> >> New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination.

>> > Dining,

>> >> Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!

>> >>

>> >

>> > ------------------------------------

>> >

October 13, 2008

Limin - I am so interested in this shot they gave you as I to gave

birth to my son via c-section. I am going to being this up with Dr A

on Monday to see if I would need it and if it would help the energy

between myself/ Zander - very intrigued

Thank you for share you visits with both Dr E, Dr K - and Yes the LDM-

100 can be tough on some if their bodies are not ready for it. This

is why Rita and I always hope people are able to get tested before

hand.

I am on Monlaurin for viral issue I have been dealing with - its

freaked me out because I was passing the viruses and it made both my

breast leak (sacred the crap out of me) but both Dr A & Dr E tested

and said its amazing where our body will excrete from - mine just

happen to be there and my arm pits (complete break out of

plastic/pesticides rash- from Valkion)

Lorina

> >> >>

> >> >> Hi Limin,

> >> >> He has the milder CBS mutation too. I really think its the

> >> > combination of heavy metals, biotoxins etc. and most likely his

> >> > phase 1 and/or 2 liver detox is not great.

> >> >> I have tried Molybdenum, glycine etc.

> >> >> I havent done much DMPS at all, just a lot of CaEDTA.

> >> >>

> >> >> Thanks for your description of the LEDs. I should think of

that.

> >> >> Dr Amy gave me some form of Vit A. I am pretty sure its

> > synthetic.

> >> > I can look it up...

> >> >>

> >> >> Pramila

> >> >>

> >> >> Re: [borreliaMultipleIn fectionsAndAutis m] Sulfur

> >> > problem

> >> >> and pertussis

> >> >>

> >> >> Limin...did Dr. K

> >> >> ART test Ingvar for OSR or did he just recommend it?

> >> >>

> >> >> I don't think OSR

> >> >> has glutathione in it, but I do think that it's purpose is to

> > help

> >> > the body make

> >> >> glutathione so that it can begin excreting naturally. Maybe

I'm

> >> > wrong, but

> >> >> that's what I thought it did.

> >> >>

> >> >> It is like peeling

> >> >> layers of an onion. One thing that we've found after peeling

> > and

> >> > peeling,

> >> >> is that a sensitive core awaits. I'm trying to figure out how

> > to

> >> > toughen

> >> >> us up so we aren't so sensitive to every little thing.

> >> >>

> >> >> Tami Duncan

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> >> >>

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> >> >> at:

> >> >> BorreliaMultipleInf ectionsAndAutism -subscribe@

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> >> >>

> >> >> In a message dated 10/8/2008 6:13:07

> >> >> P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, liminslett (DOT) net writes:

> >> >>

> >> >> Sometimes ago Tami posted that Dr. Toby mentioned to her that

> >> > Pertussis bacteria bind to sulfur, and addressing Pertussis

> >> > infection can help the body to be relieved from the problem of

> >> > sulfur and sulfur byproducts buildup, which is commonly

> > observed in

> >> > ASD children. Over the year Ingvar have been swept

> >> > homeopathic " Sulfa " twice using cold laser to detoxify sulfur

> > and

> >> > its byproducts. Because we continued chelating him with ALA,

> > DMSA,

> >> > DMPS, and NDF, sulfur seems to always build up again over

time.

> >> > Last week when Ingvar was at Dr. 's to receive an

Asyra

> >> > screening, for the first time sulfur no long appeared to be one

> > of

> >> > the primary stressor for him. But guess what? Pertussis

> > showed up

> >> > as one of the primary stressors, and Asyra prioritizes it to

be

> >> > detoxified with Ingvar's first LED treatment this round.

> >> >>

> >> >> I think that Dr. Cowden's Asyra/LED detox protocol is like

> >> > pealing layers of onion. When we pealed out the sulfur layer,

> >> > which have been requiring the body's resource such as

> > molybdenum to

> >> > detoxify, now we can encounter and deal with the bacteria that

> > have

> >> > been utilizing sulfur for their own growth and secretion of

> >> > bacterial toxins. I found the study at the link below. It

> >> > explains the relationship between Pertussis and sulfur,

> > especially

> >> > reduced glutathione as well as cysteine being the major source

> > of

> >> > sulfur for the bacteria.

> >> >>

> >> >> http://www.pubmedce ntral.nih. gov/articlerende r.fcgi?artid=

> >> > 148887

> >> >>

> >> >> To give or not to give GSH is the question! I recalled that

> > Dr.

> >> > Klinghardt warned at the recent LIA conference: Supplementing

GSH

> >> > when the body bacterial load is still high will just promote

> >> > bacterial growth. However, both Dr. Cowden and Dr. Klinghardt

> >> > recommended OSR for Ingvar. Perhaps how OSR works to promote

> > the

> >> > production of GSH at cellular level is very different from

> > directly

> >> > supplemented GSH in the body. Any thoughts?

> >> >>

> >> >> Limin

> >> >>

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