Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 My favorite probiotic right now is a high potency multiple strain made by Klaire Labs called Ther-biotic Complete. Call and tell them I sent you. You'll get a 20% discount on all their products. Dr. JM----- Original Message ----- To: <csb-autism-rx > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Clostridia Difficile Dr. JM > Dr. McCandless > > Which strains of probiotics would you recommend? > > Thanks, > > . > > > > > > I have gotten some lab reports indicating clostridia without > terrible > > stools, but usually they are soft and mushy, not commonly watery. > I get > > watery stools after a course of antibiotics, which takes out all > bugs good > > and bad. There is an imperative need for copious probiotics during > > antibiotic therapy, given away from the drug which will immediately > destroy > > them. Dr. JM > > Clostridia Difficile > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if watery diarrhea is always present with > > > overgrowth of clostridia? Or can a child have just one mushy, > but not > > > watery bowel movement, per day and still have clostridia? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at > > <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 I have not found that to be so in my patients. Dr. JM----- Original Message ----- To: <csb-autism-rx > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:26 PM Subject: Re: Clostridia Difficile Dr. JM > > > > > My favorite probiotic right now is a high potency multiple strain > made by > > Klaire Labs called Ther-biotic Complete. > > Hi Dr. McCandless, > > I like that is probiotic is enteric coated and I am giving it to my > daughter. I have read that one of the bacterial strains in it, > streptococcus thermophilus, causes formation of T 2 helper cells > instead of the T 1 helper cells. Do you think this is anything to > worry about? > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Dr. McCandless: What would you suggest for clostridia for a child who doesn't tolerate a lot of GSE or the Lauricidin? We've used the TherBiotic Complete as well as the Culturelle. Thanks, Becky Re: Clostridia Difficile Dr. JM > > > > > My favorite probiotic right now is a high potency multiple strain > made by > > Klaire Labs called Ther-biotic Complete. > > Hi Dr. McCandless, > > I like that is probiotic is enteric coated and I am giving it to my > daughter. I have read that one of the bacterial strains in it, > streptococcus thermophilus, causes formation of T 2 helper cells > instead of the T 1 helper cells. Do you think this is anything to > worry about? > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 My favorite all-around probiotic is Klaire's Ther-Biotic Complete. Maintenance is one cap a day, during antibiotics two a day (away from the antibiotic), and following, two or three (sometimes alternating) to knock out the spore hatching that follows the antibiotics for at least 10 days or two weeks. A stool analysis would show whether he needs more of a specific probiotic such as Bifidobacter. Be sure to give these in cool food, such as pear sauce, and I always keep them refrigerated. Some potency will be lost in opening the capsule, but they are such high potency that you will still get more than other brands. I now always give anti-fungals along with anti-bacterials, because when one pathogen dies out the other takes over. Sugar of any kind is absolutely counter-productive; why give anti-pathogens while feeding the critters their favorite food? You might try some taurine to help get more bile into the stool. Dr. JM Re: Clostridia Difficile Dr. JM > Dr M > what brands of massive high dose probiotics?? could you reccomend. > my son is 6 yrs old 54 lbs > my son has high clostridia after being scd for 7 months. > he is taking 1 therbiotic complete, 1 detox support, and 1 s.boulardi > (his yeast is also high. > also i am concerend since we open capsule(he won't swalloow)that he > isn't getting much of the probiotic. > also my child used to be always be constipated, but within the last > 3 months his bowels got very pasty, sandy(clostridia i think). > now the past 3 days he has had diareahhe(sorry sp.)just one large > massive explosion per day. > any thoughts or recommendations > thanks so much > roz > > > > > > > > > > > > My favorite probiotic right now is a high potency > multiple > > strain > > > > made by > > > > > Klaire Labs called Ther-biotic Complete. > > > > > > > > Hi Dr. McCandless, > > > > > > > > I like that is probiotic is enteric coated and I am > giving it to > > my > > > > daughter. I have read that one of the bacterial strains > in it, > > > > streptococcus thermophilus, causes formation of T 2 > helper cells > > > > instead of the T 1 helper cells. Do you think this is > anything to > > > > worry about? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found > at > > > <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 Dr.McCandless, My son has had high copper for quite some time, we have done a lot to bring it down, loading with zinc, supp. molybdenum, manganese, etc, nothing has worked. Recently, I took him to a G.I. at UCSF, who gave my son a 24hr urine provocation test with D-Penecillamine. The pre- provocation sample was in normal range, 14( range was 5-30 ug/l). Post provocation result was 346 ( normal range 5-30). The G.I now wants to do a Head MRI to check for any heavy metal deposits in the brain, and also a Skeletal survey to check for metal build up. I would really appreciate if you could kindly give us your input on this. Have you heard of this kind of testing being done to check for metal deposits, is it worth the effort and money or not??? also I'm concerned about the amount of radiation my son would have to be exposed to for the skeletal survey. Since we'll have to pick up some of the cost associated with these tests, I'm really seeking all the professional help I can get. Thanks in advance. Regards, Sara Re: Clostridia Difficile Dr. JM > Dr M > what brands of massive high dose probiotics?? could you reccomend. > my son is 6 yrs old 54 lbs > my son has high clostridia after being scd for 7 months. > he is taking 1 therbiotic complete, 1 detox support, and 1 s.boulardi > (his yeast is also high. > also i am concerend since we open capsule(he won't swalloow)that he > isn't getting much of the probiotic. > also my child used to be always be constipated, but within the last > 3 months his bowels got very pasty, sandy(clostridia i think). > now the past 3 days he has had diareahhe(sorry sp.)just one large > massive explosion per day. > any thoughts or recommendations > thanks so much > roz > > > > > > > > > > > > My favorite probiotic right now is a high potency > multiple > > strain > > > > made by > > > > > Klaire Labs called Ther-biotic Complete. > > > > > > > > Hi Dr. McCandless, > > > > > > > > I like that is probiotic is enteric coated and I am > giving it to > > my > > > > daughter. I have read that one of the bacterial strains > in it, > > > > streptococcus thermophilus, causes formation of T 2 > helper cells > > > > instead of the T 1 helper cells. Do you think this is > anything to > > > > worry about? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found > at > > > <http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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