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Dr. Beatrice Golomb's email address is:

bgolomb@...

Here is her website and the link to her statin study:

http://medicine.ucsd.edu/faculty/golomb

http://medicine.ucsd.edu/SES/adverse_effects.htm

Surprisingly there are quite some web sites on statin drugs' side

effects these days, if you google the right words, something

like " statin-induced myopathy " , " statin-induced nerve damage " , etc.

Regards,

HaiXin

> I have only recently joined the group and should introduce myself.

I am

> /Liz and live in Scotland in the UK. In April 2000 I was

> prescribed the statin called Lipobay (cerivastatin) and soon

afterwards

> experienced severe muscle pain and spasm. Doctors dismissed any

association

> with the statin. A year later Bayer withdrew this statin, due to

muscle

> problems. Another doctor did think the statin was the cause of my

muscle

> problems and advised me to stop it, which I did after 6 months.

But muscle

> problems have prevailed.

>

> Does anyone else still have muscle problems long after stopping a

statin

> drug?

>

> In a post today I read about a Dr Beatrice Golomb. Could someone

give me

> the URL for her website as I gather she comments on side effects?

>

> I also developed a bone condition called avascular necrosis or

osteonecrosis

> (AVN/ON) cause by interuption of blood supply to the bone causing

bone

> death. If statins can damage muscle cells, I wonder if they might

also

> damage bone cells....

>

> This is my first contact with anyone who has taken statins. When I

first

> searched the internet in 2000 I found very little about statin side

effects

> and no groups such as this. Only after Bayer withdrew cerivastatin

did

> articles on side effects begin to appear.

>

> Thanking you in advance for any response.

>

> Liz ~ Scotland. UK

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Dr. Beatrice Golomb's email address is:

bgolomb@...

Here is her website and the link to her statin study:

http://medicine.ucsd.edu/faculty/golomb

http://medicine.ucsd.edu/SES/adverse_effects.htm

Surprisingly there are quite some web sites on statin drugs' side

effects these days, if you google the right words, something

like " statin-induced myopathy " , " statin-induced nerve damage " , etc.

Regards,

HaiXin

> I have only recently joined the group and should introduce myself.

I am

> /Liz and live in Scotland in the UK. In April 2000 I was

> prescribed the statin called Lipobay (cerivastatin) and soon

afterwards

> experienced severe muscle pain and spasm. Doctors dismissed any

association

> with the statin. A year later Bayer withdrew this statin, due to

muscle

> problems. Another doctor did think the statin was the cause of my

muscle

> problems and advised me to stop it, which I did after 6 months.

But muscle

> problems have prevailed.

>

> Does anyone else still have muscle problems long after stopping a

statin

> drug?

>

> In a post today I read about a Dr Beatrice Golomb. Could someone

give me

> the URL for her website as I gather she comments on side effects?

>

> I also developed a bone condition called avascular necrosis or

osteonecrosis

> (AVN/ON) cause by interuption of blood supply to the bone causing

bone

> death. If statins can damage muscle cells, I wonder if they might

also

> damage bone cells....

>

> This is my first contact with anyone who has taken statins. When I

first

> searched the internet in 2000 I found very little about statin side

effects

> and no groups such as this. Only after Bayer withdrew cerivastatin

did

> articles on side effects begin to appear.

>

> Thanking you in advance for any response.

>

> Liz ~ Scotland. UK

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Somehow yahoo keeps cutting off the email address attached in my

earlier posts. I am trying to use *at* to replace the special " @ "

character.

Dr. Beatrice Golomb's email address is:

bgolomb*at*popmail.ucsd.edu

Here is her website and the link to her statin study:

http://medicine.ucsd.edu/faculty/golomb

http://medicine.ucsd.edu/SES/adverse_effects.htm

Surprisingly there are quite some web sites on statin drugs' side

effects these days, if you google the right words, something

like " statin-induced myopathy " , " statin-induced nerve damage " , etc.

Regards,

HaiXin

> I have only recently joined the group and should introduce myself.

I am

> /Liz and live in Scotland in the UK. In April 2000 I was

> prescribed the statin called Lipobay (cerivastatin) and soon

afterwards

> experienced severe muscle pain and spasm. Doctors dismissed any

association

> with the statin. A year later Bayer withdrew this statin, due to

muscle

> problems. Another doctor did think the statin was the cause of my

muscle

> problems and advised me to stop it, which I did after 6 months.

But muscle

> problems have prevailed.

>

> Does anyone else still have muscle problems long after stopping a

statin

> drug?

>

> In a post today I read about a Dr Beatrice Golomb. Could someone

give me

> the URL for her website as I gather she comments on side effects?

>

> I also developed a bone condition called avascular necrosis or

osteonecrosis

> (AVN/ON) cause by interuption of blood supply to the bone causing

bone

> death. If statins can damage muscle cells, I wonder if they might

also

> damage bone cells....

>

> This is my first contact with anyone who has taken statins. When I

first

> searched the internet in 2000 I found very little about statin side

effects

> and no groups such as this. Only after Bayer withdrew cerivastatin

did

> articles on side effects begin to appear.

>

> Thanking you in advance for any response.

>

> Liz ~ Scotland. UK

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Oh Liz...you have come to the right place. We here all suffer some ill effects of the Statin Shuffle. Let the ppl's stories unfold for you...You will find most all of us have suffered some sort of muscle damage. Get ready...and good luck!!elizaga wrote:

I have only recently joined the group and should introduce myself. I am/Liz and live in Scotland in the UK. In April 2000 I wasprescribed the statin called Lipobay (cerivastatin) and soon afterwardsexperienced severe muscle pain and spasm. Doctors dismissed any associationwith the statin. A year later Bayer withdrew this statin, due to muscleproblems. Another doctor did think the statin was the cause of my muscleproblems and advised me to stop it, which I did after 6 months. But muscleproblems have prevailed.Does anyone else still have muscle problems long after stopping a statindrug?In a post today I read about a Dr Beatrice Golomb. Could someone give methe URL for her website as I gather she comments on side effects?I also developed a bone condition called avascular

necrosis or osteonecrosis(AVN/ON) cause by interuption of blood supply to the bone causing bonedeath. If statins can damage muscle cells, I wonder if they might alsodamage bone cells....This is my first contact with anyone who has taken statins. When I firstsearched the internet in 2000 I found very little about statin side effectsand no groups such as this. Only after Bayer withdrew cerivastatin didarticles on side effects begin to appear.Thanking you in advance for any response.Liz ~ Scotland. UKPlease and Thanx, Bogie__________________________________________________

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Don't have a personal story to relate. Just a friend's husband whosedementia got so bad that this year they told him to get his affairs inorder during his remaining lucid spells. His wife did what theyasked but then sought second opinions, etc. Was alarmed no medicalprofessionals had any idea that there were minerals and nutritionalfactors which studies are beginning to show are related to Alzheimers. Finally she ran across info on the internet regarding Zocor sideeffects. He had been on this drug for several years, with no apparentill effects when he started taking it. She insisted they at leasttry suspending the Zocor for a while. Lo and behold, the man's mindhas returned to almost normal (still a big of spaciness, perhaps apermanent relic of the side effect?) has essentially returned to beinghimself. I realize everyone reacts differently and many people have no problem,but how do we know how much statin-induced dementia is out there,hidden or covered up? And do I personally want to be a guinea pig inthis long-term experiment on the assorted long-term side effects ofthese drugs? It would only be worth it to me if there were NO otheroptions available to save my life.

I lost my good friend and neighbor , she was on Lipitor, and got dementia, lost her home, went into a nursing home, and had a massive stroke, and passed away . Previously to the Lipitor, her health was great , her mind was very active and well .

I got peripheral neuropathy after Crestor and then Pravachal . Last Friday, I told the Dr that prescribed the drugs to me what happened ,and he got in my face and was verbally abusive, it was awful . He totally denied all of it ,and said people in chronic pain were always looking for something to blame for it . Here is the letter I mailed to him yesterday . I doubt he'll even read it , but I felt better sending it .

Les .

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Don't have a personal story to relate. Just a friend's husband whose

dementia got so bad that this year they told him to get his affairs in

order during his remaining lucid spells. His wife did what they

asked but then sought second opinions, etc. Was alarmed no medical

professionals had any idea that there were minerals and nutritional

factors which studies are beginning to show are related to Alzheimers.

Finally she ran across info on the internet regarding Zocor side

effects. He had been on this drug for several years, with no apparent

ill effects when he started taking it. She insisted they at least

try suspending the Zocor for a while. Lo and behold, the man's mind

has returned to almost normal (still a big of spaciness, perhaps a

permanent relic of the side effect?) has essentially returned to being

himself.

I realize everyone reacts differently and many people have no problem,

but how do we know how much statin-induced dementia is out there,

hidden or covered up? And do I personally want to be a guinea pig in

this long-term experiment on the assorted long-term side effects of

these drugs? It would only be worth it to me if there were NO other

options available to save my life.

>

> I just approved a new member to the group who just started taking

> Zocor ealier this week and she is feeling some muscle fatigueness

> already.

>

> Would anyone like to tell her your story of your dealings with Zocor

> or with any other statin as that goes?

>

> Ed

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Les Where's the copy of your letter to your doctor?

I resent, but if you still can't get it, I'll send to your email address if you want it ...let me know -lesinaz@... .

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Hi, and welcome to the group!

> What exercises should I be doing as a beginner?I have looked

> briefly at some of the instructions in the files section, but

> am still unsure which exercises I should be doing and how to

> perform them well.

> I noticed that the manual suggests taking measurements so that

> improvements can be measured and motivation maintained but where

> should I measure? Any help and encouragement will be gratefully

> received.

If you could access the X5 manual, then I think you have all you

need to know. It gives us specific programs for our needs, from

beginner to advanced, for strength to circulation training. So my

advice is, just follow the program in the X5 manual first. Then

you can go on to others that you may want to indulge in. So as a

start, do the basic exercises recommended for the first week. See

how your body responds.

As for the measurements you are referring to from the manual, I

think it means the meter readings. It would be a direct measure of

strength gains, even if what is measured is simply the distance

travelled by the Bullworker tubes.

> Can anyone instruct me how to do these exercises well?

> I find that there is a lot of difference in the resistance

> depending on which way round I hold the bullworker, is this

> normal?

I would say that as long as you do the exercise and go against the

resistance, you should be doing okay. Difference in resistance may

be due to minor changes in position. Well, just go ahead and do

them, varying the positions. (But as I mentioned earlier, as a

beginner, stick to the weekly program of the X5 manual.)

> What do I need to do to maintain my bullworker in good

> condition?

I would say nothing much. Just keep it from getting wet, probably.

> How can I avoid the danger of a painful punch on the jaw

> when the bullworker slips off my knee during an exercise?

The Steel Bows come with a rubber pad to prevent slippage. You can

improvise one for the X5 as well. I would think any piece of rubber

can do. Of course, practice of proper technic will prevent slippage,

and careful attention during exercise should also help.

> and how do I estimate the 60% of strength that I should be using?

I find this 60% strength thing more of an advertisement. Meaning,

you don't have to apply more than that. The same with the rule

about not having to do more than one repetition a day. But these

are just minimums.

Right now, I would recommend that we just forget about this 60%

thing and just press as much as we want or could. Anyway, other

than having an actual scale to measure strength applied, we can

never really know if we are applying 60% strength. There's also

the effect of a warm-up. I observe that if I press to " my max "

once, and do another, I could easily go beyond this previous

" max. " So there are a lot of factors about the strength we apply

and I think we would not go wrong if we simply pressed/pulled as

much as we want or could, as well as doing so as often as we want

or could. Anyway, unlike extreme weight training, there's virtually

no danger of overtraining with the Bullworker.

Just the way I see it. I hope this helps.

Gerry

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Welcome aboard! Follow the instructions from the wallchart as instructed. It takes you on as a beginner and leads you to advanced workouts later on. As far as the 60% effort, I more or less estimate this. The main idea is to use your BW, and not get overconcerned with the details. It is just like J. has said, if you compress it you are exercising. We are all blessed to have these versatile little machines, and the good advice and encouragement from this board. Brawnterryjamesbulmer wrote: I'm 53 yrs old, fairly unfit and a little overweight. I bought abullworker 5x at a local carboot sale and the only instructions I haveare those printed on the handles. Can anyone instruct me how to dothese exercises well?I find that there is a lot of difference in theresistance depending on which way round I hold the bullworker, is thisnormal? What do I need to do to maintain my bullworker in goodcondition?How can I avoid the danger of a painful punch on the jawwhen the bullworker slips off my knee during an exercise? and how do Iestimate the 60% of strength that I should be using?What exercises should I be doing as a beginner?I have lookedbriefly at some of the instructions in the files section, but am stillunsure which exercises I should be doing and how to perform them well.I noticed that the manual suggests taking measurements so thatimprovements can be measured and motivation maintained but

whereshould I measure? Any help and encouragement will be gratefully received. __________________________________________________

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Hi Tim

I'm the same sort of age as you and your second and third paragraphs could have been written by me. I would advise doing about half of the BW exercises at 40% strength as a warm up first. Once completed you should be able to judge how fit you are to press on. For example; having done half the exercises at low effort I proceed to go around again doing somewhere between half and all of the exercises but this time at 70% effort. In this way there is no shock to my system.

My advice is only anecdotal. I'm not a medical expert but it works fine for me.

Hope that helps

Philip

Hi All,I'm looking forward to joining this newsgroup! I'm thinking aboutgetting back into the Bullworker thing after an hiatus of a number ofyears, but I've got a couple of questions and concerns.

My first Bullworker I believe was called the " Bullworker 2 " --- it hadgreen handles and round cables. I bought it in 1972, and it lastedfor five years until I snapped one of the cables. I think I may even

have the original " Len Sell " wall posters kicking around somewhere(they adorned my dorm room walls my freshman year in college). Iremember looking at one of the photos of Gert F. Kolbel in the manual

back then, and wondering if he was a reformed SS type or somethingfrom the Second World War!My second Bullworker was purchased some time in the 1980s --- Ibelieve it might have been the " X-5 " , which came with printing on the

handles (?) and nylon straps rather than cables. It had a blue canvascarrying case. I remember the literature/brochure/manual (whatever)that came with it had a picture of a longer-haired guy who looked likehe couldn't break a string of spaghetti trying to compress the

Bullworker. This Bullworker lasted for about a decade, until thespring broke and the apparatus came apart into two pieces.In the meantime, I had purchased the original Soloflex in 1983, andfor a time would alternate days training between the Soloflex and the

Bullworker. The Soloflex still exists, but is used mostly as aclothes rack these days (my fault!). It was a lot of fun doing allthis training, and running as well, and competing in road races.That was a different life. Now approaching my mid-fifties, with a

destroyed ACL in my left knee, a diskectomy in my L5/S1 lower back,and a blown cervical disk C5-C6 in my neck, along with an extra thirtyor forty pounds....my workouts " ain't what they used to be! " When I

exercise, it tends to be walking 3 or 4 miles at a time (inside orout, at a speed of about 3 to 4 miles and hour), and lifting lightweights (18lbs. dumbbells), and using a grip strengthener for golf.My dilemna is this: I'd love to supplement what I'm doing with a new

Bullworker regimen, since I have such fond memories, but I have someconcerns. My general health is good --- low BP, cholesterol; and I'vepassed several treadmill stress tests with thallium scans with noissues. But I've read some comments over the past few years saying

that isometric exercises can be potentially quite dangerous --- akinto taking your heart and squeezing it like a tennis ball. Possiblybringing on faintness, arrythmias, and even a coronary! As I recall,I was a bit concerned about this; at the end of my Bullworker X-5's

life I tended to do more isotonic motions with reps, rather thansingle maximum compressions.Can anyone enlighten me on all this? Opinions? I'd love to get backinto the Bullworker thing again, but I don't want to end up flopping

around on the floor.Tim

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Hi Tim,

Having just made a Post about static holds I feel I should respond.

Like you I bought the 'Len Sell' BW2 but a couple of years after you -

and I'm still using it...

For the past few weeks I've been so determined to do the statics that

I've been going straight into them with no warm up. I haven't felt

faint or pulled any muscles, in fact I tend to pull muscles doing

inoccuous things like gardening.

I recently had an ECG which was okay.

I haven't read the reports on potential heart problems, but I'd never

rubbish them.

However - from a personal viewpoint I feel that if you do the

exercises properly without getting stressed or holding your breath

then you are simply working the muscles.

I think stress can me minimised by :-

a) Not trying too hard - no 'wobbles' or hot flushes (or broken BW's!)

B) Being totally familiar with the exercises. For a long time I

followed the wallchart and had the book in front of me but now I just

automatically assume the positions and automatically move on to the

next one.

I have read Posts recently saying that you must vary your routine to

get results as your muscles reach a peak. I feel that staying with

the same routine is safer and still gives me the results I'm after -

firm but not necessarily big muscles.

However, you may get replies to your Post that will make me think

again...

Fult.

>

> Hi All,

>

> I'm looking forward to joining this newsgroup! I'm thinking about

> getting back into the Bullworker thing after an hiatus of a number

of

> years, but I've got a couple of questions and concerns.

>

> My first Bullworker I believe was called the " Bullworker 2 " --- it

had

> green handles and round cables. I bought it in 1972, and it lasted

> for five years until I snapped one of the cables. I think I may

even

> have the original " Len Sell " wall posters kicking around somewhere

> (they adorned my dorm room walls my freshman year in college). I

> remember looking at one of the photos of Gert F. Kolbel in the

manual

> back then, and wondering if he was a reformed SS type or something

> from the Second World War!

>

> My second Bullworker was purchased some time in the 1980s --- I

> believe it might have been the " X-5 " , which came with printing on

the

> handles (?) and nylon straps rather than cables. It had a blue

canvas

> carrying case. I remember the literature/brochure/manual (whatever)

> that came with it had a picture of a longer-haired guy who looked

like

> he couldn't break a string of spaghetti trying to compress the

> Bullworker. This Bullworker lasted for about a decade, until the

> spring broke and the apparatus came apart into two pieces.

>

> In the meantime, I had purchased the original Soloflex in 1983, and

> for a time would alternate days training between the Soloflex and

the

> Bullworker. The Soloflex still exists, but is used mostly as a

> clothes rack these days (my fault!). It was a lot of fun doing all

> this training, and running as well, and competing in road races.

>

> That was a different life. Now approaching my mid-fifties, with a

> destroyed ACL in my left knee, a diskectomy in my L5/S1 lower back,

> and a blown cervical disk C5-C6 in my neck, along with an extra

thirty

> or forty pounds....my workouts " ain't what they used to be! " When I

> exercise, it tends to be walking 3 or 4 miles at a time (inside or

> out, at a speed of about 3 to 4 miles and hour), and lifting light

> weights (18lbs. dumbbells), and using a grip strengthener for golf.

>

> My dilemna is this: I'd love to supplement what I'm doing with a

new

> Bullworker regimen, since I have such fond memories, but I have some

> concerns. My general health is good --- low BP, cholesterol; and

I've

> passed several treadmill stress tests with thallium scans with no

> issues. But I've read some comments over the past few years saying

> that isometric exercises can be potentially quite dangerous --- akin

> to taking your heart and squeezing it like a tennis ball. Possibly

> bringing on faintness, arrythmias, and even a coronary! As I

recall,

> I was a bit concerned about this; at the end of my Bullworker X-5's

> life I tended to do more isotonic motions with reps, rather than

> single maximum compressions.

>

> Can anyone enlighten me on all this? Opinions? I'd love to get

back

> into the Bullworker thing again, but I don't want to end up flopping

> around on the floor.

>

> Tim

>

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Try this one, too:

http://www.runboard.com/bbullworkergym

Subject: New MemberTo: bullworkerclub Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 1:03 AM

Hi All,I'm looking forward to joining this newsgroup! I'm thinking aboutgetting back into the Bullworker thing after an hiatus of a number ofyears, but I've got a couple of questions and concerns.My first Bullworker I believe was called the "Bullworker 2" --- it hadgreen handles and round cables. I bought it in 1972, and it lastedfor five years until I snapped one of the cables. I think I may evenhave the original "Len Sell" wall posters kicking around somewhere(they adorned my dorm room walls my freshman year in college). Iremember looking at one of the photos of Gert F. Kolbel in the manualback then, and wondering if he was a reformed SS type or somethingfrom the Second World War!My second Bullworker was purchased some time in the 1980s --- Ibelieve it might have been the "X-5", which came with printing on thehandles (?) and nylon straps rather than cables. It had a blue

canvascarrying case. I remember the literature/brochure /manual (whatever)that came with it had a picture of a longer-haired guy who looked likehe couldn't break a string of spaghetti trying to compress theBullworker. This Bullworker lasted for about a decade, until thespring broke and the apparatus came apart into two pieces.In the meantime, I had purchased the original Soloflex in 1983, andfor a time would alternate days training between the Soloflex and theBullworker. The Soloflex still exists, but is used mostly as aclothes rack these days (my fault!). It was a lot of fun doing allthis training, and running as well, and competing in road races.That was a different life. Now approaching my mid-fifties, with adestroyed ACL in my left knee, a diskectomy in my L5/S1 lower back,and a blown cervical disk C5-C6 in my neck, along with an extra thirtyor forty pounds....my workouts "ain't what

they used to be!" When Iexercise, it tends to be walking 3 or 4 miles at a time (inside orout, at a speed of about 3 to 4 miles and hour), and lifting lightweights (18lbs. dumbbells), and using a grip strengthener for golf.My dilemna is this: I'd love to supplement what I'm doing with a newBullworker regimen, since I have such fond memories, but I have someconcerns. My general health is good --- low BP, cholesterol; and I'vepassed several treadmill stress tests with thallium scans with noissues. But I've read some comments over the past few years sayingthat isometric exercises can be potentially quite dangerous --- akinto taking your heart and squeezing it like a tennis ball. Possiblybringing on faintness, arrythmias, and even a coronary! As I recall,I was a bit concerned about this; at the end of my Bullworker X-5'slife I tended to do more isotonic motions with reps, rather thansingle maximum

compressions.Can anyone enlighten me on all this? Opinions? I'd love to get backinto the Bullworker thing again, but I don't want to end up floppingaround on the floor.Tim

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No, no issue unless you are dumb. By that I mean, when one exercises,

the BP naturally increases. One should not hold one's breath and

create great exertion for an undue amount of time.

That is the only deal to worry about assuming you are not a cardiac

case.

Acutally, there is a device that uses isos to LOWER BP without

medication.

Good luck.

>

> Hi All,

>

> I'm looking forward to joining this newsgroup! I'm thinking about

> getting back into the Bullworker thing after an hiatus of a number

of

> years, but I've got a couple of questions and concerns.

>

> My first Bullworker I believe was called the " Bullworker 2 " --- it

had

> green handles and round cables. I bought it in 1972, and it lasted

> for five years until I snapped one of the cables. I think I may

even

> have the original " Len Sell " wall posters kicking around somewhere

> (they adorned my dorm room walls my freshman year in college). I

> remember looking at one of the photos of Gert F. Kolbel in the

manual

> back then, and wondering if he was a reformed SS type or something

> from the Second World War!

>

> My second Bullworker was purchased some time in the 1980s --- I

> believe it might have been the " X-5 " , which came with printing on

the

> handles (?) and nylon straps rather than cables. It had a blue

canvas

> carrying case. I remember the literature/brochure/manual (whatever)

> that came with it had a picture of a longer-haired guy who looked

like

> he couldn't break a string of spaghetti trying to compress the

> Bullworker. This Bullworker lasted for about a decade, until the

> spring broke and the apparatus came apart into two pieces.

>

> In the meantime, I had purchased the original Soloflex in 1983, and

> for a time would alternate days training between the Soloflex and

the

> Bullworker. The Soloflex still exists, but is used mostly as a

> clothes rack these days (my fault!). It was a lot of fun doing all

> this training, and running as well, and competing in road races.

>

> That was a different life. Now approaching my mid-fifties, with a

> destroyed ACL in my left knee, a diskectomy in my L5/S1 lower back,

> and a blown cervical disk C5-C6 in my neck, along with an extra

thirty

> or forty pounds....my workouts " ain't what they used to be! " When I

> exercise, it tends to be walking 3 or 4 miles at a time (inside or

> out, at a speed of about 3 to 4 miles and hour), and lifting light

> weights (18lbs. dumbbells), and using a grip strengthener for golf.

>

> My dilemna is this: I'd love to supplement what I'm doing with a

new

> Bullworker regimen, since I have such fond memories, but I have some

> concerns. My general health is good --- low BP, cholesterol; and

I've

> passed several treadmill stress tests with thallium scans with no

> issues. But I've read some comments over the past few years saying

> that isometric exercises can be potentially quite dangerous --- akin

> to taking your heart and squeezing it like a tennis ball. Possibly

> bringing on faintness, arrythmias, and even a coronary! As I

recall,

> I was a bit concerned about this; at the end of my Bullworker X-5's

> life I tended to do more isotonic motions with reps, rather than

> single maximum compressions.

>

> Can anyone enlighten me on all this? Opinions? I'd love to get

back

> into the Bullworker thing again, but I don't want to end up flopping

> around on the floor.

>

> Tim

>

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Hi Canfield - welcome to the Group.

Firstly you should know that you are not alone - there are many of

us 50+r's on this site who bought BW's in the 70's.

Doing 5 days per week for the last 2 months you should already

be seeing benefits, and I believe that the static holds alone build

sufficient, toned muscle for most people.

For increased fitness and fat reduction some of us add simple

things like running, cycling or rowing.

I like to simply run in place or up/down stairs, and and also

believe that the high volume/low effort 'reducing' exercises

mentioned in the BW manuals DO work.

I KNOW that the above reduces fat because my exercise routine

has slipped over the last few months and my body-fat has

increased despite my diet remaining constant.

Of course none of the above will increase flexibility, but this is not

important to me and neither are big muscles.

Diet is important also, and as Gerry used to advise us (where

are you Gerry?) so is the timing of meals, as muscle at rest

burns fat in the absence of insulin.

Good Luck,

Fult.

>

> Hi Guys, I have just joined the group. I purchased a Bullworker

about

> two months ago and have been training 5 days a week. At age

53, it is

> harder to get rid of body fat than it was when I was younger. I

used

> to own a bullworker back in the 1970's.

>

> I have been considering purchasing a steel bow and following

the " sit

> at home " routine. I was wondering if anyone has had success

with this

> routine? Also, if anyone has any great tips or routines they

could

> share with a bullworker newbie to increase my chances of

success -

> that would be great.

>

> Looking forward to hearing from you all.

> Canfield

>

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Thank you for the support. I am finally starting to notice some results and some real defined muscle as well. I still have a layer of blubber to work through but I am encouraged by the shape my body is beginning to take.I am really starting to notice the difference now that I am doing 12 reps isotonically and holding the last rep for 10 secs. It takes me about an hour to go through all the exercises on the chart this way (and a few of my own). I get a real pump and burn on some of the exercises. I feel the muscle I am building is harder and more dense than when i used to train with free weights.I was wondering if most of you train this way or do you have some other routines you would recommend.canfieldSubject: Re: New memberTo: bullworkerclub Received: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 6:10 AM

Hi Canfield - welcome to the Group.

Firstly you should know that you are not alone - there are many of

us 50+r's on this site who bought BW's in the 70's.

Doing 5 days per week for the last 2 months you should already

be seeing benefits, and I believe that the static holds alone build

sufficient, toned muscle for most people.

For increased fitness and fat reduction some of us add simple

things like running, cycling or rowing.

I like to simply run in place or up/down stairs, and and also

believe that the high volume/low effort 'reducing' exercises

mentioned in the BW manuals DO work.

I KNOW that the above reduces fat because my exercise routine

has slipped over the last few months and my body-fat has

increased despite my diet remaining constant.

Of course none of the above will increase flexibility, but this is not

important to me and neither are big muscles.

Diet is important also, and as Gerry used to advise us (where

are you Gerry?) so is the timing of meals, as muscle at rest

burns fat in the absence of insulin.

Good Luck,

Fult.

>

> Hi Guys, I have just joined the group. I purchased a Bullworker

about

> two months ago and have been training 5 days a week. At age

53, it is

> harder to get rid of body fat than it was when I was younger. I

used

> to own a bullworker back in the 1970's.

>

> I have been considering purchasing a steel bow and following

the "sit

> at home" routine. I was wondering if anyone has had success

with this

> routine? Also, if anyone has any great tips or routines they

could

> share with a bullworker newbie to increase my chances of

success -

> that would be great.

>

> Looking forward to hearing from you all.

> Canfield

>

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Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Niki Wilde and I have a 15 yr. old Autistic son. His name is Braydon and he is a Sophmore in high school. We live in Utah.

Niki~

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Hello,Niki

Welcome to the group i have a son that is 6 and he has classic autism. His name is Devin.

My name is Lesley.

To: autismbehaviorproblems Sent: Friday, 9 January, 2009 5:19:51 PMSubject: New Member

Hi Everyone,I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Niki Wilde and I have a 15 yr. old Autistic son. His name is Braydon and he is a Sophmore in high school. We live in Utah. Niki~

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Hi Lesley and All,

I don't know the 'terms' well; LOL. My son, Braydon, was diagnosed low functioning Autistic/PDD at 2 1/2.

I am not sure what 'classic' means. Braydon has no compound disorders. (ie; ADD, ect)

Niki~

To: AutismBehaviorProblems From: lesley_hcks@...Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:27:21 -0800Subject: Re: New Member

Hello,Niki

Welcome to the group i have a son that is 6 and he has classic autism. His name is Devin.

My name is Lesley.

To: autismbehaviorproblems Sent: Friday, 9 January, 2009 5:19:51 PMSubject: New Member

Hi Everyone,I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Niki Wilde and I have a 15 yr. old Autistic son. His name is Braydon and he is a Sophmore in high school. We live in Utah. Niki~

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Hey Niki

Classic autism is a low functioning autims.

Lesley

To: autismbehaviorproblems Sent: Friday, 9 January, 2009 6:04:29 PMSubject: RE: New Member

Hi Lesley and All,I don't know the 'terms' well; LOL. My son, Braydon, was diagnosed low functioning Autistic/PDD at 2 1/2. I am not sure what 'classic' means. Braydon has no compound disorders. (ie; ADD, ect)Niki~

To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: lesley_hcks@ yahoo.com. auDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:27:21 -0800Subject: Re: New Member

Hello,Niki

Welcome to the group i have a son that is 6 and he has classic autism. His name is Devin.

My name is Lesley.

To: autismbehaviorprobl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, 9 January, 2009 5:19:51 PMSubject: New Member

Hi Everyone,I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Niki Wilde and I have a 15 yr. old Autistic son. His name is Braydon and he is a Sophmore in high school. We live in Utah.. Niki~

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I guess Braydon was diagnosed 'classic' autism, then at 5 his diagnoses changed to Autistic Savant, now the doctor calls him Mildly Autistic. We joke that if we were extremely rich, he'd just be a bit eccentric. LOL!

Niki~

To: AutismBehaviorProblems From: lesley_hcks@...Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:07:23 -0800Subject: Re: New Member

Hey Niki

Classic autism is a low functioning autims.

Lesley

To: autismbehaviorproblems Sent: Friday, 9 January, 2009 6:04:29 PMSubject: RE: New Member

Hi Lesley and All,I don't know the 'terms' well; LOL. My son, Braydon, was diagnosed low functioning Autistic/PDD at 2 1/2. I am not sure what 'classic' means. Braydon has no compound disorders. (ie; ADD, ect)Niki~

To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: lesley_hcks@ yahoo.com. auDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:27:21 -0800Subject: Re: New Member

Hello,Niki

Welcome to the group i have a son that is 6 and he has classic autism. His name is Devin.

My name is Lesley.

To: autismbehaviorprobl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, 9 January, 2009 5:19:51 PMSubject: New Member

Hi Everyone,I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Niki Wilde and I have a 15 yr. old Autistic son. His name is Braydon and he is a Sophmore in high school. We live in Utah.. Niki~

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so does he have full language now?

To: autismbehaviorproblems Sent: Friday, 9 January, 2009 6:10:20 PMSubject: RE: New Member

I guess Braydon was diagnosed 'classic' autism, then at 5 his diagnoses changed to Autistic Savant, now the doctor calls him Mildly Autistic. We joke that if we were extremely rich, he'd just be a bit eccentric. LOL!Niki~

To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: lesley_hcks@ yahoo.com. auDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:07:23 -0800Subject: Re: New Member

Hey Niki

Classic autism is a low functioning autims.

Lesley

To: autismbehaviorprobl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, 9 January, 2009 6:04:29 PMSubject: RE: New Member

Hi Lesley and All,I don't know the 'terms' well; LOL. My son, Braydon, was diagnosed low functioning Autistic/PDD at 2 1/2. I am not sure what 'classic' means. Braydon has no compound disorders. (ie; ADD, ect)Niki~

To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) . comFrom: lesley_hcks@ yahoo.com. auDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:27:21 -0800Subject: Re: New Member

Hello,Niki

Welcome to the group i have a son that is 6 and he has classic autism. His name is Devin.

My name is Lesley.

To: autismbehaviorprobl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, 9 January, 2009 5:19:51 PMSubject: New Member

Hi Everyone,I just wanted to introduce myself. My name is Niki Wilde and I have a 15 yr. old Autistic son. His name is Braydon and he is a Sophmore in high school. We live in Utah.. Niki~

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Niki,

Hi! I am Lois mom to JJ age 21. My JJ is a moxed bag I guess. Some things he is low in and other things he does good with. Where do you live? If he is low funtioning how did he get in high school? (regular) My JJ was "mainstremed" until he hit high school and then he went to a special school. Lois

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Hi Lois,

I am in Utah. In an earlier email I explained Braydon was diagnosed low functioning, then at 5 he was rediagnosed as a Savant, and now at 15 he is 'mildy autistic'. He is completely mainstreamed in public high school. He does get one hour of study hall to prepare and do whatever he needs to do. He is on the yearbook staff and manages the basketball team, which he commentates for.

Niki~

To: AutismBehaviorProblems From: jlois@...Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 20:50:00 -0500Subject: Re: New Member

Niki,

Hi! I am Lois mom to JJ age 21. My JJ is a moxed bag I guess. Some things he is low in and other things he does good with. Where do you live? If he is low funtioning how did he get in high school? (regular) My JJ was "mainstremed" until he hit high school and then he went to a special school. Lois

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