Re: Question to Dr. McCandless about Down Syndrome

[Guest guest]

> some kind of supplement that if used for a down syndrome child could

> reduce symptoms and in some cases even reverse the " down symdrome "

> appearance.

Is this it?

http://www.doctoryourself.com/learning.html

VITAMINS FIGHT LEARNING DISABILITIES, SCIENTIFIC STUDY SHOWS

Nutritional supplements were used, with considerable success, to help

overcome learning disabilities in children. In a well-designed clinical

trial, " megavitamin " doses were seen to be safe and remarkably effective,

even offering improvement in Downs Syndrome children.

Dr. Ruth F. Harrell and associates published their important findings in

Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, USA (78:574-578)... in

1981! Although Medical Tribune picked the story up, it is likely that your

doctor is as unaware of this research as I was until one of my chiropractic

students showed it to me in ‘93.

The Harrell study was successful because her team gave LD kids much larger

doses of vitamins than other researchers: over 100 times the ADULT (not

child's) RDA for riboflavin; 37 times the RDA for niacin (given as

niacinamide); 40 times the RDA for vitamin E; and 150 times the RDA for

thiamin. These are the quantities that evidently get results, and get them

safely. Safety and effectiveness are the rule, not the exception, with

therapeutic nutrition.

Here is an abstract (summary) of this important article:

“To explore the hypothesis that mental retardations are in part

genetotrophic diseases (diseases in which the genetic pattern of the

afflicted individual requires an augmented supply of one or more nutrients

such that when these nutrients are adequately supplied the disease is

ameliorated), we carried out a partially double-blind experiment with 16

retarded children (initial IQs, approximately 17-70) of school age who were

given nutritional supplements or placebos during a period of 8 months. The

supplement contained 8 minerals in moderate amounts and 11 vitamins, mostly

in relatively large amounts. During the first 4 - month period

(double-blind) the 5 children who received supplements increased their

average IQ by 5.0-9.6, depending on the investigator, whereas the 11

subjects given placebos showed negligible change. The difference between

these two groups is statistically significant (P less than 0.05). During the

second period, the subjects who had been given placebos in the first study

received supplements; they showed an average IQ increase of at least 10.2, a

highly significant gain (P less than 0.001). Three of the five subjects who

were given supplements for both periods showed additional IQ gains during

the second 4 months. Three of four children with Down syndrome gained

between 10 and 25 units in IQ and also showed physical changes toward

normal. Other evidence suggests that the supplement improved visual acuity

in two children and increased growth rates. These results support the

hypothesis that mental retardations are in part genetotrophic in origin.”

What intrigues me most is the need to explore this area further, and medical

reluctance to do so. As Lincoln said of the little girl who put her hand in

the stocking, " It strikes me that there's something in it. " I urge you to

read the full paper: Harrell RF, Capp RH, DR, Peerless J, Ravitz LR

Can nutritional supplements help mentally retarded children? An exploratory

study. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A 1981 Jan;78(1):574-8.

Dr. Harrell, who had been publishing on vitamin effects on learning for over

30 years, was not inventing the idea of megavitamin therapy suddenly in one

paper. Nor has the work ended; the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine is a

good resource if you want to know more. http://www.orthomed.org

Reprinted from the book FIRE YOUR DOCTOR, copyright 2001 and prior years by

Saul, Number 8 Van Buren Street, Holley, New York 14470 USA

Telephone

[Guest guest]

I am not Dr McCandless, but she may be recuperating and not looking

at the list much right now. I believe the work you are interested in

was pioneered by Dr Harry Turkel and is called Targeted Nutritional

Intervention. I believe it is based on a lot of folic acid and

methyl donors and that Jill also created a supplement

specifically for Down's kids. I hope this is enough information to

do a google search until Dr McCandless can reply....Kim

> Dr. McCandless,

>

> I seem to remember about a year ago on the old list you mentioned

> some kind of supplement that if used for a down syndrome child

could

> reduce symptoms and in some cases even reverse the " down symdrome "

> appearance. I saved the message for future reference however lost

> most of my computer information. Can you give this information to

me

> again? Thanks.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Lynne, Kim and Ann for helping me out. I am waaaayyy behind in

posting, but hope to get back with it soon (after getting DAN! stuff ready and

those @#$%! & *^$# taxes done!) I used to treat Down children before I got into

autism, and used International Center for Metabolic Testing in Canada. They

have a company NutriChem that makes up personalized formulas for these kids

after testing that worked very well for my genetically disordered clients. This

organization is run by Dr. Kent MacLeod, influenced tremendously by Dr. Turkel's

work as Kim mentioned, and he has written an excellent book called Down Sndrome

and Vitamin Therapy. They are at www.nutrichem.com, and may be doing the very

same thing the other companies mentioned do. Dr. JM

Re: Question to Dr. McCandless about Down Syndrome

Here ya go!

http://www.nutrivene.com/

And another EXCELLENT site:

http://www.einstein-syndrome.com/index.htm

> I just saw that Dr McCandless is posting, but the name of the

> supplement is Nutrivene or Nutriven (can't remember), but it is a

> whole protocol called Targeted Nutritional Intervention which

entails

> far more than just one supplement. I believe in many ways it is

> similar to DAN in that the kids are extensively tested and their

> individual deficiencies corrected. I know a google search would

> yield a bunch of information, but of course when Dr McCandless sees

> this she will know more than I...Kim

>

Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

<http://www.autism-rxguidebook.com/forums>

[Guest guest]

I just saw that Dr McCandless is posting, but the name of the

supplement is Nutrivene or Nutriven (can't remember), but it is a

whole protocol called Targeted Nutritional Intervention which entails

far more than just one supplement. I believe in many ways it is

similar to DAN in that the kids are extensively tested and their

individual deficiencies corrected. I know a google search would

yield a bunch of information, but of course when Dr McCandless sees

this she will know more than I...Kim

> > some kind of supplement that if used for a down syndrome child

could

> > reduce symptoms and in some cases even reverse the " down symdrome "

> > appearance.

>

> Is this it?

>

> http://www.doctoryourself.com/learning.html

>

> VITAMINS FIGHT LEARNING DISABILITIES, SCIENTIFIC STUDY SHOWS

>

> Nutritional supplements were used, with considerable success, to

help

> overcome learning disabilities in children. In a well-designed

clinical

> trial, " megavitamin " doses were seen to be safe and remarkably

effective,

> even offering improvement in Downs Syndrome children.

> Dr. Ruth F. Harrell and associates published their important

findings in

> Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, USA (78:574-

578)... in

> 1981! Although Medical Tribune picked the story up, it is likely

that your

> doctor is as unaware of this research as I was until one of my

chiropractic

> students showed it to me in `93.

> The Harrell study was successful because her team gave LD kids much

larger

> doses of vitamins than other researchers: over 100 times the ADULT

(not

> child's) RDA for riboflavin; 37 times the RDA for niacin (given as

> niacinamide); 40 times the RDA for vitamin E; and 150 times the RDA

for

> thiamin. These are the quantities that evidently get results, and

get them

> safely. Safety and effectiveness are the rule, not the exception,

with

> therapeutic nutrition.

> Here is an abstract (summary) of this important article:

> " To explore the hypothesis that mental retardations are in part

> genetotrophic diseases (diseases in which the genetic pattern of the

> afflicted individual requires an augmented supply of one or more

nutrients

> such that when these nutrients are adequately supplied the disease

is

> ameliorated), we carried out a partially double-blind experiment

with 16

> retarded children (initial IQs, approximately 17-70) of school age

who were

> given nutritional supplements or placebos during a period of 8

months. The

> supplement contained 8 minerals in moderate amounts and 11

vitamins, mostly

> in relatively large amounts. During the first 4 - month period

> (double-blind) the 5 children who received supplements increased

their

> average IQ by 5.0-9.6, depending on the investigator, whereas the 11

> subjects given placebos showed negligible change. The difference

between

> these two groups is statistically significant (P less than 0.05).

During the

> second period, the subjects who had been given placebos in the

first study

> received supplements; they showed an average IQ increase of at

least 10.2, a

> highly significant gain (P less than 0.001). Three of the five

subjects who

> were given supplements for both periods showed additional IQ gains

during

> the second 4 months. Three of four children with Down syndrome

gained

> between 10 and 25 units in IQ and also showed physical changes

toward

> normal. Other evidence suggests that the supplement improved visual

acuity

> in two children and increased growth rates. These results support

the

> hypothesis that mental retardations are in part genetotrophic in

origin. "

> What intrigues me most is the need to explore this area further,

and medical

> reluctance to do so. As Lincoln said of the little girl who put

her hand in

> the stocking, " It strikes me that there's something in it. " I urge

you to

> read the full paper: Harrell RF, Capp RH, DR, Peerless J,

Ravitz LR

> Can nutritional supplements help mentally retarded children? An

exploratory

> study. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A 1981 Jan;78(1):574-8.

> Dr. Harrell, who had been publishing on vitamin effects on learning

for over

> 30 years, was not inventing the idea of megavitamin therapy

suddenly in one

> paper. Nor has the work ended; the Journal of Orthomolecular

Medicine is a

> good resource if you want to know more. http://www.orthomed.org

>

> Reprinted from the book FIRE YOUR DOCTOR, copyright 2001 and prior

years by

> Saul, Number 8 Van Buren Street, Holley, New York 14470 USA

> Telephone

[Guest guest]

Here ya go!

http://www.nutrivene.com/

And another EXCELLENT site:

http://www.einstein-syndrome.com/index.htm

> I just saw that Dr McCandless is posting, but the name of the

> supplement is Nutrivene or Nutriven (can't remember), but it is a

> whole protocol called Targeted Nutritional Intervention which

entails

> far more than just one supplement. I believe in many ways it is

> similar to DAN in that the kids are extensively tested and their

> individual deficiencies corrected. I know a google search would

> yield a bunch of information, but of course when Dr McCandless sees

> this she will know more than I...Kim

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for bringing this up. My husband's brother just had a

baby, dx: Downs. This will be great information to pass along

to them.

Marla

> Dr. McCandless,

>

> I seem to remember about a year ago on the old list you mentioned

> some kind of supplement that if used for a down syndrome

[Guest guest]

Dr. McCandless,

Thank you so much for your response. My autistic son attends a

special needs school so I am in constant contact with parents of

disabled kids that have no idea there is information out there that

can help heal their kids. I find it so rewarding to get them started

on the path of helping their children instead of waiting for

pediatricians to hand it to them on a platter.

I know what you mean about the taxes. I got mine sent out at 1am

this morning. Hope thing ease up for you.

>

> Thanks, Lynne, Kim and Ann for helping me out. I am waaaayyy

behind in posting, but hope to get back with it soon (after getting

DAN! stuff ready and those @#$%! & *^$# taxes done!) I used to treat

Down children before I got into autism, and used International Center

for Metabolic Testing in Canada. They have a company NutriChem that

makes up personalized formulas for these kids after testing that

worked very well for my genetically disordered clients. This

organization is run by Dr. Kent MacLeod, influenced tremendously by

Dr. Turkel's work as Kim mentioned, and he has written an excellent

book called Down Sndrome and Vitamin Therapy. They are at

www.nutrichem.com, and may be doing the very same thing the other

companies mentioned do. Dr. JM

[Guest guest]

FWIW...My son has taken custom supplements from NutriChem for many

years. The supplements are based on his urine test results. NutriChem

is wonderful to deal with!

Jan Blase

> > I just saw that Dr McCandless is posting, but the name of the

> > supplement is Nutrivene or Nutriven (can't remember), but it

is a

> > whole protocol called Targeted Nutritional Intervention which

> entails

> > far more than just one supplement. I believe in many ways it

is

> > similar to DAN in that the kids are extensively tested and

their

> > individual deficiencies corrected. I know a google search

would

> > yield a bunch of information, but of course when Dr

McCandless sees

> > this she will know more than I...Kim

> >

>

>

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

<http://www.autism-rxguidebook.com/forums>

>

>

>