Jim

March 18, 2003

In a message dated 3/17/2003 12:45:02 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sonofmosiah@... writes:

> hey Xerox a copy before you go in to

> see Doc.

>

> Jim

>

> PS Of course I get everything, I'm a GOD! LOL

Hey Jim, I am sorry to disillusion you, but I have always gotten copies of my

printouts, too! That's 'cause Dr. K loves all of us, not just YOU! So

naaaaaaa.

Hugs and blessings, Ann (who thinks that Jim may be Tom Cruise, but not God)

March 18, 2003

Remember those flying monkeys that were on their way to your house with

sleeping potions? Remember I called them off? Well they are BACK ON. SO

na, na, na, na, naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, na.

Re: Re: Jim

Hey Jim, I am sorry to disillusion you, but I have always gotten copies

of my

printouts, too! That's 'cause Dr. K loves all of us, not just YOU! So

naaaaaaa.

Hugs and blessings, Ann (who thinks that Jim may be Tom Cruise, but not

God)

March 19, 2003

In a message dated 3/18/2003 9:49:43 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sonofmosiah@... writes:

> Remember those flying monkeys that were on their way to your house with

> sleeping potions? Remember I called them off? Well they are BACK ON. SO

> na, na, na, na, naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, na.

>

Hmmmmm. The flying monkeys flew up just at the right time...they are on

their way back -- in search of gas masks! Can't get this DSer with mere

flying monkeys and sleeping potions! Hahahahahahahahahah!

Hugs and blessings, Ann

March 19, 2003

In a message dated 3/19/2003 12:36:18 PM Central Standard Time,

positivelyann@... writes:

> Hmmmmm. The flying monkeys flew up just at the right time...they are on

> their way back -- in search of gas masks! Can't get this DSer with mere

> flying monkeys and sleeping potions! Hahahahahahahahahah!

>

> Hugs and blessings, Ann

>

Ann,

If you can take out flying monkeys, maybe we should send you to Iraq

as our own secret weapon.....Talk about chemical attacks.....LOL.

in Bama

http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Surgery- RNY to DS revision on12/6 -377.5

2/17 - 346.5 ( minus 31lbs)

01/15- 338.1 (minus 39.1lbs)

02/12-330.0 (minus 47.5 lbs)

03/02- 325 (minus 52.5 lbs)

March 19, 2003

In a message dated 3/19/2003 8:23:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,

MDL1031@... writes:

> f you can take out flying monkeys, maybe we should send you to Iraq

> as our own secret weapon.....Talk about chemical attacks.....LOL.

> in Bama

And just think about all of us together...on three...LOL

Hugs and blessings, Ann

March 19, 2003

No, no, no! If all of us DS-ers went over there, just one match and the

world would blow up.

Jim

Re: Re: Jim

Ann,

If you can take out flying monkeys, maybe we should send you to Iraq

as our own secret weapon.....Talk about chemical attacks.....LOL.

March 20, 2003

> In a message dated 3/19/2003 8:23:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> MDL1031@a... writes:

> > f you can take out flying monkeys, maybe we should send you to

Iraq

> > as our own secret weapon.....Talk about chemical attacks.....LOL.

> > in Bama

>

> And just think about all of us together...on three...LOL

>

> Hugs and blessings, Ann

Okay, Ann

Is that 1-2-3 and then fart? or is it 1-2- and then fart on 3?

Sharon in Onyx

who wants to be sure...and to do my part for the war efforts.

March 20, 2003

> Sharon, you and have both got me laughing my head off and

I'm

> sitting here at work! It's lucky half the office is out of town

> today! (So, my new TT/hernia surgery date is April 16th. Are you

> coming to visit me?)

>

> Love,

> Tracey

>

> --- In DS_Friends_Keshishian , " roseofsharon_ps121 "

You betcha, but I will wait till you are settled in for the healing

process ok? let me know when & where

love,

sharon in onyx

March 20, 2003

In a message dated 3/20/2003 11:43:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,

slorvgal@... writes:

> Bummer for Will......and I would've never guessed he was an Iraqi!

> LOL...Donna

Great line, Donna! I was thinking " Huh? " when I finally got it! LOL

Hugs and blessings, Ann

March 20, 2003

In a message dated 3/21/2003 1:48:21 AM Central Standard Time,

positivelyann@... writes:

> Great line, Donna! I was thinking " Huh? " when I finally got it! LOL

>

> Hugs and blessings, Ann

>

Me too Ann being pissed me

in Bama

http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Surgery- RNY to DS revision on12/6 -377.5

2/17 - 346.5 ( minus 31lbs)

01/15- 338.1 (minus 39.1lbs)

02/12-330.0 (minus 47.5 lbs)

03/02- 325 (minus 52.5 lbs)

March 20, 2003

In a message dated 3/21/2003 1:48:21 AM Central Standard Time,

positivelyann@... writes:

> Great line, Donna! I was thinking " Huh? " when I finally got it! LOL

>

> Hugs and blessings, Ann

>

Sorry for the other....Me too ann, being pissed makes me slow on the

uptake....LOL. I heard a guy in Kuwait with a gas mask say that (as sirens

squalled in the background) That if they saw anything fall into the

city.....They'd hide...LOL. A man after Jim's and my own hearts.....I think

I'd be gone before that first siren sounded....Those gas masks look

smothering......Then the guy talking to him said something about the gas

masks not being any protection if some of the chemicals hit your skin as it

would be instant death......I bet the guy with the mask was thinking " Gee,

Thanks for reminding me " .....LOL.

in Bama

http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Surgery- RNY to DS revision on12/6 -377.5

2/17 - 346.5 ( minus 31lbs)

01/15- 338.1 (minus 39.1lbs)

02/12-330.0 (minus 47.5 lbs)

03/02- 325 (minus 52.5 lbs)

March 21, 2003

Hi Mellie!

I know what you mean about the gas masks looking smothering. I can't stand

an oxygen mask on my face -- it makes me think I am being smothered! Our

poor troops who have to move around in those things -- well, my prayers are

with them.

Hugs and blessings, Ann

March 21, 2003

>

> Bummer for Will......and I would've never guessed he was an Iraqi!

LOL...Donna

>

> I think it should be 1-2 then fire at will!

> LOL

>

> Hugs and blessings, Ann

>

Ok Donna,

you beat me to it. lolYou guys stay up late...

Sharon in Onyx

who needs her beauty sleep

April 16, 2003

I am so glad you answered us.Now you can see how much we care

about you and we are here, of course I dont know much,but I

will help in anyway I can. All of us have had problems at one

time or another,and we need help for everyone.

Just remember When God is near,we never fear..

Let go and let God take care of it along with Dr.K

Good luck and God bless,

Pat in Taft

April 25, 2003

Hey Guy,

Check your scales with another scale. I showed a 2lb weight drop on my

scales and went and checked it against the one I had been using at Kmart, and

I was surprised to see a drop to 314lbs. Today I reweighed to see if it was a

fluke, and got 315....Still a drop to 62 lbs lost. I have also cut carbs to

almost atkins level, but not quite(Ate cornbread one night, and a sandwich

the next). Increased the protein. I am wondering if you wouldn't be better to

try and get your protein in the way of food and not rely on the liquid stuff?

I am worrying about you and thought about not posting until after you

had seen the good doc, but thought maybe I could give you some encouragement.

Here's hoping a little lasix will catch you up with me.....LOL. ((((Hugs))))

in Bama

http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Surgery- RNY to DS revision on12/6 -377.5

12/17 - 346.5 ( minus 31lbs)

01/15- 338.1 (minus 39.1lbs)

02/12-330.0 (minus 47.5 lbs)

04/06- 324.3 (minus 53.2 lbs)

04/25- 315 (minus 62.5 lbs)

April 25, 2003

Thanks ,

I saw my GP (sorry PCP) last Wednesday. According to his scale I am 337

which was pretty much what my spring scale told me. That means 30 pounds

in almost 5 months total. I was up 25 pounds though until I stopped

eating anything except salad and drinking the pre-digested protein (not

protein drinks), walking 3+ miles per day, and doing the exercise bike 2

hours per day. I might as well not has the DS with all this exercise and

only minimal weight loss. I need to find out about the Paso water

aerobics, but don't know who to talk with about that.

When I see doc on the 22nd, I'm really going to push hard fro the pani,

particularly after reading his post to (who was it on this list?) the

pani question.

Thanks for caring, you and the others on the list too.

Jim

Re: Jim

Hey Guy,

Check your scales with another scale. I showed a 2lb weight drop

on my

scales and went and checked it against the one I had been using at

Kmart, and

I was surprised to see a drop to 314lbs. Today I reweighed to see if it

was a

fluke, and got 315....Still a drop to 62 lbs lost. I have also cut

carbs to

almost atkins level, but not quite(Ate cornbread one night, and a

sandwich

the next). Increased the protein. I am wondering if you wouldn't be

better to

try and get your protein in the way of food and not rely on the liquid

stuff?

I am worrying about you and thought about not posting until after

you

had seen the good doc, but thought maybe I could give you some

encouragement.

Here's hoping a little lasix will catch you up with me.....LOL.

((((Hugs))))

in Bama

April 25, 2003

In a message dated 4/25/2003 6:07:05 PM Central Daylight Time,

sonofmosiah@... writes:

> I was up 25 pounds though until I stopped

> eating anything except salad and drinking the pre-digested protein (not

> protein drinks), walking 3+ miles per day, and doing the exercise bike 2

> hours per day. I might as well not has the DS with all this exercise and

> only minimal weight loss. I need to find out about the Paso water

> aerobics, but don't know who to talk with about that.

>

Jim,

Until you see the good doc, try something and see if it helps....Stop

the predigested protein....Maybe your not absorbing it....This is my

theory...Water goes with protein. When we had pts in the hospital with

generalized edema(swelling) and

they had low protein levels we gave iv albumin. It would pull off the fluid

in the extremeties. If by some chance you are not absorbing the protein

liquid, then you may be losing fluid into the tissues. Maybe you are protein

malnourished....I think I was preop because I had began swelling in my legs

and I never at my biggest swelled like that. And the syndrome I had

accompanies protein malnourishment. Could(Marta?) it possibly be that your

body isn't absorbing the pre digested stuff? I would try meat, meat, meat(and

pork rinds and cheese....You get the drift...) for a few days and see what

happens. If it was a protein problem, I figure the first thing that will

happen is you will pee yourself silly. Besides, protein stays with you

longer. You feel full longer and your body takes more calories to digest this

stuff...(?As opposed to predigested??)Salad gives you roughage, but doesn't

stay with you near as long. I would love to see if it worked. if you've tried

this let me know....But by nature I'm a fixer....LOL. If something ain't

right I have to figure out why and this has about driven me over the edge,

wondering what is going on with you....LOL. I was looking at the bottle and 2

tablespoons are 60 calories with 15 gms of protein. So you are taking in

what?? 8 a day for 240 calories? Nah, the calories are not the problem with

this.

Jim, there's no way this can be like this, without some kind of

problem, I only do 1 mile or 20-30 minutes a day on the exercise bike. and

God knows I eat more than salads. What is a typical meal situation in a

day(you don't have to if you don't want, or maybe privately), but I'm curious

as to what you eat compared to me or who had surgery about the same

time. Not suggesting you are eating too much, just wonder if *I* am....LOL.

in Bama

http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Surgery- RNY to DS revision on12/6 -377.5

12/17 - 346.5 ( minus 31lbs)

01/15- 338.1 (minus 39.1lbs)

02/12-330.0 (minus 47.5 lbs)

04/06- 324.3 (minus 53.2 lbs)

04/25- 315 (minus 62.5 lbs)

April 25, 2003

Jim

2 hours per day on the bike plus the walk?! And nothing but salad! Wish I had

the willpower!

Good for you for being as proactive as possible.

Hope things take a turn for the better.

Kristy

P.S I say G.P instead of PCP too!!

April 25, 2003

Hi Jim,

I find I have to add my voice to the others in regard to your eating more

(protein, protein, protein and some fat for good measure). Could it be

possible that the predigested protein is the culprit (as in, your body wants

to digest its own protein)? I don't know whether that has any validity at

all, but it is a thought! Your body probably thinks you had your throat cut,

not your intestines rerouted! As always, I am thinking of you and praying

for you and wishing all the best in the world for speedy solutions!

Hugs and blessings, Ann

April 25, 2003

In a message dated 4/25/2003 8:36:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

MDL1031@... writes:

> Jim,

> Until you see the good doc, try something and see if it

> helps....Stop

> the predigested protein....M

Dang , we sure think alike! Congratulations on the new losses!

Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Hugs and blessings, Ann

April 25, 2003

In a message dated 4/25/2003 11:00:11 PM Central Daylight Time,

positivelyann@... writes:

> Dang , we sure think alike! Congratulations on the new losses!

> Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

>

> Hugs and blessings, Ann

>

Scarey...Huh??? ....LOL. I wonder how Jim chokes that crap down....I decided

to try my sample I've had for 3 months, and YUCK with a capital Y!!! OMG, It

was horrible. Jim you body is probabally on strike begging you not to pour

any more of that nasty stuff into it....LOL.

in Bama

http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Surgery- RNY to DS revision on12/6 -377.5

12/17 - 346.5 ( minus 31lbs)

01/15- 338.1 (minus 39.1lbs)

02/12-330.0 (minus 47.5 lbs)

04/06- 324.3 (minus 53.2 lbs)

04/25- 315 (minus 62.5 lbs)

April 25, 2003

Amber In Hawaii

gastric stapling 1989 lost 40#

D.S. July 8th 2002

starting wt 287 size 26

wt at 9 months 174 size 14

starting BMI 48 NOW 29

hi jim i may not know what i talking about but here is my thought you need to

eat more i think your body may be in starvation mode and wont give up the fat.

even if you had not had the ds with all the working out and hardly eating i am

not sure you would really lose. for me when i went on some diets that only give

me 300 or so cal. i lost some then completly stop i would get tired and then my

imune system would shut down and i would catch the first bug going around i

dont know if this dose you any good or not. but here is sending you good

thoughts that things start going your way take care and have a great day amber

. I was up 25 pounds though until I stopped

eating anything except salad and drinking the pre-digested protein (not

protein drinks), walking 3+ miles per day, and doing the exercise bike 2

hours per day. I

April 25, 2003

congrats on the scales moving