Re: Three months on Valtrex, unclear results

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This is the second post I have read that a parent has seen a reduction in OCD

behaviors by using Valtrex. Are there more parents out there that see this? My

son's OCD has increased since starting biomed but we haven't gotten to Valtrex

yet. Since strep is bacteria (causes OCD) and vatrex goes after viruses maybe

there's a bigger link to bacteria/virus combination and removal. Valtrex seems

to be the super med it releases dormant viruse, helps detox and helps a bacteria

situation????!! Just some observations.

-

PS Mae, maybe you should try spreading the doses out to 3Xper day.

Stimmy and silly sounds like yeast...Is your son on a yeast protocal?

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>Date: Sat Mar 04 18:50:19 CST 2006

>To: mb12 valtrex

>Subject: Three months on Valtrex, unclear results

>Hi everyone, I've been lurking on the list for a while and am finding

>it really interesting - thanks Stan!

>

>My son is 10 and has been doing biomedical stuff since he was

>4...GFCFSF, then SCD with enzymes for two years now. He has enzyme

>deficiency per a scope 2 years ago, was a good responder to secretin.

>His gut functioning improved a lot with several monthly secretin

>infusions, diet and enzymes, and it has been a while since he had

>yeast/bacteria issues. We did the Immunosciences Premier Autism Panel

>16 months ago. His viral panel showed that he is a serious viral kid,

>also extremely low secretory IgA (so low they redid the test to make

>sure). We have been doing MB12 shots for 16 months, just started

>alternating shots with the spray about a month ago, every day he gets

>one or the other. Last winter he was on Valtrex (500mg twice a day)

>for about a month or two and he did well behaviorally. This winter he

>has been on it three months, we just finished the third Rx. This year

>we did not see improvement, other than his OCD that is usually very

>bad in the winter was almost nonexistent(through trial and error we

>determined the OCD to be viral in origin, as it never responded to

>antibiotics). Other than the help with OCD, I would say he has been

>worse than usual (seems more stimmy, silly, etc.). I would think that

>this could be the " healing regression " I have read about here, but it

>has been a long time and we saw nothing other than that, no rash, no

>warts, only one head cold/lethargic period a couple of weeks ago

>which is just clearing up now.

>

>I'm wondering what to do now. Continue with Valtrex? Try Virastop?

>Check for yeast?

>

>Any thoughts would be appreciated.

>

>TIA,

>

>Mae Lynn

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I would start some antifungals if you have not yet done so. That

would put you in a better position to understand what the Valtrex

has or has not done for your child.

Anne

>

> This is the second post I have read that a parent has seen a

reduction in OCD behaviors by using Valtrex. Are there more parents

out there that see this? My son's OCD has increased since starting

biomed but we haven't gotten to Valtrex yet. Since strep is

bacteria (causes OCD) and vatrex goes after viruses maybe there's a

bigger link to bacteria/virus combination and removal. Valtrex

seems to be the super med it releases dormant viruse, helps detox

and helps a bacteria situation????!! Just some observations.

> -

>

> PS Mae, maybe you should try spreading the doses out to 3Xper day.

> Stimmy and silly sounds like yeast...Is your son on a yeast

protocal?

> >

> >Date: Sat Mar 04 18:50:19 CST 2006

> >To: mb12 valtrex

> >Subject: Three months on Valtrex, unclear results

>

> >Hi everyone, I've been lurking on the list for a while and am

finding

> >it really interesting - thanks Stan!

> >

> >My son is 10 and has been doing biomedical stuff since he was

> >4...GFCFSF, then SCD with enzymes for two years now. He has

enzyme

> >deficiency per a scope 2 years ago, was a good responder to

secretin.

> >His gut functioning improved a lot with several monthly secretin

> >infusions, diet and enzymes, and it has been a while since he had

> >yeast/bacteria issues. We did the Immunosciences Premier Autism

Panel

> >16 months ago. His viral panel showed that he is a serious viral

kid,

> >also extremely low secretory IgA (so low they redid the test to

make

> >sure). We have been doing MB12 shots for 16 months, just started

> >alternating shots with the spray about a month ago, every day he

gets

> >one or the other. Last winter he was on Valtrex (500mg twice a

day)

> >for about a month or two and he did well behaviorally. This

winter he

> >has been on it three months, we just finished the third Rx. This

year

> >we did not see improvement, other than his OCD that is usually

very

> >bad in the winter was almost nonexistent(through trial and error

we

> >determined the OCD to be viral in origin, as it never responded

to

> >antibiotics). Other than the help with OCD, I would say he has

been

> >worse than usual (seems more stimmy, silly, etc.). I would think

that

> >this could be the " healing regression " I have read about here,

but it

> >has been a long time and we saw nothing other than that, no rash,

no

> >warts, only one head cold/lethargic period a couple of weeks ago

> >which is just clearing up now.

> >

> >I'm wondering what to do now. Continue with Valtrex? Try

Virastop?

> >Check for yeast?

> >

> >Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> >

> >TIA,

> >

> >Mae Lynn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I'm a bit confused. Tell us exactly what your child is taking right now.

- Stan

>

> Hi everyone, I've been lurking on the list for a while and am finding

> it really interesting - thanks Stan!

>

> My son is 10 and has been doing biomedical stuff since he was

> 4...GFCFSF, then SCD with enzymes for two years now. He has enzyme

> deficiency per a scope 2 years ago, was a good responder to secretin.

> His gut functioning improved a lot with several monthly secretin

> infusions, diet and enzymes, and it has been a while since he had

> yeast/bacteria issues. We did the Immunosciences Premier Autism Panel

> 16 months ago. His viral panel showed that he is a serious viral kid,

> also extremely low secretory IgA (so low they redid the test to make

> sure). We have been doing MB12 shots for 16 months, just started

> alternating shots with the spray about a month ago, every day he gets

> one or the other. Last winter he was on Valtrex (500mg twice a day)

> for about a month or two and he did well behaviorally. This winter he

> has been on it three months, we just finished the third Rx. This year

> we did not see improvement, other than his OCD that is usually very

> bad in the winter was almost nonexistent(through trial and error we

> determined the OCD to be viral in origin, as it never responded to

> antibiotics). Other than the help with OCD, I would say he has been

> worse than usual (seems more stimmy, silly, etc.). I would think that

> this could be the " healing regression " I have read about here, but it

> has been a long time and we saw nothing other than that, no rash, no

> warts, only one head cold/lethargic period a couple of weeks ago

> which is just clearing up now.

>

> I'm wondering what to do now. Continue with Valtrex? Try Virastop?

> Check for yeast?

>

> Any thoughts would be appreciated.

>

> TIA,

>

> Mae Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

OCD can be caused by the autoimmune response to Strep bacteria and there is no

citations in the medical literature that I could find with " herpes and ocd " and

only 5 with

" virus and strep " with none relating to Valtrex or herpes virus.

But yet some children have improved symptoms of OCD... how? Better methylation

and/or

immune system response? Valtrex triggered detox which helped the the immune

system?

It's an interesting question. It certainly says to me that there is something

else besides

straight herpes antiviral therapy going on IMO.

- Stan

>

> This is the second post I have read that a parent has seen a reduction in OCD

behaviors

by using Valtrex. Are there more parents out there that see this? My son's OCD

has

increased since starting biomed but we haven't gotten to Valtrex yet. Since

strep is

bacteria (causes OCD) and vatrex goes after viruses maybe there's a bigger link

to

bacteria/virus combination and removal. Valtrex seems to be the super med it

releases

dormant viruse, helps detox and helps a bacteria situation????!! Just some

observations.

> -

>

> PS Mae, maybe you should try spreading the doses out to 3Xper day.

> Stimmy and silly sounds like yeast...Is your son on a yeast protocal?

> >

> >Date: Sat Mar 04 18:50:19 CST 2006

> >To: mb12 valtrex

> >Subject: Three months on Valtrex, unclear results

>

> >Hi everyone, I've been lurking on the list for a while and am finding

> >it really interesting - thanks Stan!

> >

> >My son is 10 and has been doing biomedical stuff since he was

> >4...GFCFSF, then SCD with enzymes for two years now. He has enzyme

> >deficiency per a scope 2 years ago, was a good responder to secretin.

> >His gut functioning improved a lot with several monthly secretin

> >infusions, diet and enzymes, and it has been a while since he had

> >yeast/bacteria issues. We did the Immunosciences Premier Autism Panel

> >16 months ago. His viral panel showed that he is a serious viral kid,

> >also extremely low secretory IgA (so low they redid the test to make

> >sure). We have been doing MB12 shots for 16 months, just started

> >alternating shots with the spray about a month ago, every day he gets

> >one or the other. Last winter he was on Valtrex (500mg twice a day)

> >for about a month or two and he did well behaviorally. This winter he

> >has been on it three months, we just finished the third Rx. This year

> >we did not see improvement, other than his OCD that is usually very

> >bad in the winter was almost nonexistent(through trial and error we

> >determined the OCD to be viral in origin, as it never responded to

> >antibiotics). Other than the help with OCD, I would say he has been

> >worse than usual (seems more stimmy, silly, etc.). I would think that

> >this could be the " healing regression " I have read about here, but it

> >has been a long time and we saw nothing other than that, no rash, no

> >warts, only one head cold/lethargic period a couple of weeks ago

> >which is just clearing up now.

> >

> >I'm wondering what to do now. Continue with Valtrex? Try Virastop?

> >Check for yeast?

> >

> >Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> >

> >TIA,

> >

> >Mae Lynn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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what is OCD?

Three months on Valtrex, unclear results>> >> >Hi everyone, I've been lurking on the list for a while and am finding >> >it really interesting - thanks Stan!>> >>> >My son is 10 and has been doing biomedical stuff since he was >> >4...GFCFSF, then SCD with enzymes for two years now. He has enzyme >> >deficiency per a scope 2 years ago, was a good responder to secretin. >> >His gut functioning improved a lot with several monthly secretin >> >infusions, diet and enzymes, and it has been a while since he had >> >yeast/bacteria issues. We did the Immunosciences Premier Autism Panel >> >16 months ago. His viral panel showed that he is a serious viral kid, >> >also extremely low secretory IgA (so low they redid the test to make >> >sure). We have been doing MB12 shots for 16 months, just started >> >alternating shots with the spray about a month ago, every day he gets >> >one or the other. Last winter he was on Valtrex (500mg twice a day)>> >for about a month or two and he did well behaviorally. This winter he >> >has been on it three months, we just finished the third Rx. This year >> >we did not see improvement, other than his OCD that is usually very >> >bad in the winter was almost nonexistent(through trial and error we >> >determined the OCD to be viral in origin, as it never responded to >> >antibiotics). Other than the help with OCD, I would say he has been >> >worse than usual (seems more stimmy, silly, etc.). I would think that >> >this could be the "healing regression" I have read about here, but it >> >has been a long time and we saw nothing other than that, no rash, no >> >warts, only one head cold/lethargic period a couple of weeks ago >> >which is just clearing up now. >> >>> >I'm wondering what to do now. Continue with Valtrex? Try Virastop? >> >Check for yeast?>> >>> >Any thoughts would be appreciated.>> >>> >TIA,>> >>> >Mae Lynn>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >> >

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Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

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>Date: Mon Mar 06 10:35:15 CST 2006

>To: mb12 valtrex

>Subject: RE: Re: Three months on Valtrex, unclear results

>what is OCD? Three months on Valtrex, unclear results

>>>

>>> >Hi everyone, I've been lurking on the list for a while and am finding

>>> >it really interesting - thanks Stan!

>>> >

>>> >My son is 10 and has been doing biomedical stuff since he was

>>> >4...GFCFSF, then SCD with enzymes for two years now. He has enzyme

>>> >deficiency per a scope 2 years ago, was a good responder to secretin.

>>> >His gut functioning improved a lot with several monthly secretin

>>> >infusions, diet and enzymes, and it has been a while since he had

>>> >yeast/bacteria issues. We did the Immunosciences Premier Autism Panel

>>> >16 months ago. His viral panel showed that he is a serious viral kid,

>>> >also extremely low secretory IgA (so low they redid the test to make

>>> >sure). We have been doing MB12 shots for 16 months, just started

>>> >alternating shots with the spray about a month ago, every day he gets

>>> >one or the other. Last winter he was on Valtrex (500mg twice a day)

>>> >for about a month or two and he did well behaviorally. This winter he

>>> >has been on it three months, we just finished the third Rx. This year

>>> >we did not see improvement, other than his OCD that is usually very

>>> >bad in the winter was almost nonexistent(through trial and error we

>>> >determined the OCD to be viral in origin, as it never responded to

>>> >antibiotics). Other than the help with OCD, I would say he has been

>>> >worse than usual (seems more stimmy, silly, etc.). I would think that

>>> >this could be the " healing regression " I have read about here, but it

>>> >has been a long time and we saw nothing other than that, no rash, no

>>> >warts, only one head cold/lethargic period a couple of weeks ago

>>> >which is just clearing up now.

>>> >

>>> >I'm wondering what to do now. Continue with Valtrex? Try Virastop?

>>> >Check for yeast?

>>> >

>>> >Any thoughts would be appreciated.

>>> >

>>> >TIA,

>>> >

>>> >Mae Lynn

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

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Arent most asd kids ocd? I mean, my child is obsessed with buttons and vcr's. He could play with a vcr all day. Popping the tape in and out, pushing all the buttons. Would you consider this OCD? Thanks, Rena

Three months on Valtrex, unclear results>>> >>> >Hi everyone, I've been lurking on the list for a while and am finding >>> >it really interesting - thanks Stan!>>> >>>> >My son is 10 and has been doing biomedical stuff since he was >>> >4...GFCFSF, then SCD with enzymes for two years now. He has enzyme >>> >deficiency per a scope 2 years ago, was a good responder to secretin. >>> >His gut functioning improved a lot with several monthly secretin >>> >infusions, diet and enzymes, and it has been a while since he had >>> >yeast/bacteria issues. We did the Immunosciences Premier Autism Panel >>> >16 months ago. His viral panel showed that he is a serious viral kid, >>> >also extremely low secretory IgA (so low they redid the test to make >>> >sure). We have been doing MB12 shots for 16 months, just started >>> >alternating shots with the spray about a month ago, every day he gets >>> >one or the other. Last winter he was on Valtrex (500mg twice a day)>>> >for about a month or two and he did well behaviorally. This winter he >>> >has been on it three months, we just finished the third Rx. This year >>> >we did not see improvement, other than his OCD that is usually very >>> >bad in the winter was almost nonexistent(through trial and error we >>> >determined the OCD to be viral in origin, as it never responded to >>> >antibiotics). Other than the help with OCD, I would say he has been >>> >worse than usual (seems more stimmy, silly, etc.). I would think that >>> >this could be the "healing regression" I have read about here, but it >>> >has been a long time and we saw nothing other than that, no rash, no >>> >warts, only one head cold/lethargic period a couple of weeks ago >>> >which is just clearing up now. >>> >>>> >I'm wondering what to do now. Continue with Valtrex? Try Virastop? >>> >Check for yeast?>>> >>>> >Any thoughts would be appreciated.>>> >>>> >TIA,>>> >>>> >Mae Lynn>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you . Very kind of you.

- Stan

> >>

> >> This is the second post I have read that a parent has seen a reduction in

OCD

behaviors

> >by using Valtrex. Are there more parents out there that see this? My son's

OCD has

> >increased since starting biomed but we haven't gotten to Valtrex yet. Since

strep is

> >bacteria (causes OCD) and vatrex goes after viruses maybe there's a bigger

link to

> >bacteria/virus combination and removal. Valtrex seems to be the super med it

releases

> >dormant viruse, helps detox and helps a bacteria situation????!! Just some

observations.

> >> -

> >>

> >> PS Mae, maybe you should try spreading the doses out to 3Xper day.

> >> Stimmy and silly sounds like yeast...Is your son on a yeast protocal?

> >> >From: Mae Lynn Arlinghaus <MaeLynnArl@>

> >> >Date: Sat Mar 04 18:50:19 CST 2006

> >> >To: mb12 valtrex

> >> >Subject: Three months on Valtrex, unclear results

> >>

> >> >Hi everyone, I've been lurking on the list for a while and am finding

> >> >it really interesting - thanks Stan!

> >> >

> >> >My son is 10 and has been doing biomedical stuff since he was

> >> >4...GFCFSF, then SCD with enzymes for two years now. He has enzyme

> >> >deficiency per a scope 2 years ago, was a good responder to secretin.

> >> >His gut functioning improved a lot with several monthly secretin

> >> >infusions, diet and enzymes, and it has been a while since he had

> >> >yeast/bacteria issues. We did the Immunosciences Premier Autism Panel

> >> >16 months ago. His viral panel showed that he is a serious viral kid,

> >> >also extremely low secretory IgA (so low they redid the test to make

> >> >sure). We have been doing MB12 shots for 16 months, just started

> >> >alternating shots with the spray about a month ago, every day he gets

> >> >one or the other. Last winter he was on Valtrex (500mg twice a day)

> >> >for about a month or two and he did well behaviorally. This winter he

> >> >has been on it three months, we just finished the third Rx. This year

> >> >we did not see improvement, other than his OCD that is usually very

> >> >bad in the winter was almost nonexistent(through trial and error we

> >> >determined the OCD to be viral in origin, as it never responded to

> >> >antibiotics). Other than the help with OCD, I would say he has been

> >> >worse than usual (seems more stimmy, silly, etc.). I would think that

> >> >this could be the " healing regression " I have read about here, but it

> >> >has been a long time and we saw nothing other than that, no rash, no

> >> >warts, only one head cold/lethargic period a couple of weeks ago

> >> >which is just clearing up now.

> >> >

> >> >I'm wondering what to do now. Continue with Valtrex? Try Virastop?

> >> >Check for yeast?

> >> >

> >> >Any thoughts would be appreciated.

> >> >

> >> >TIA,

> >> >

> >> >Mae Lynn

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >