Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 Hi, I am trying to find the French equivalent of the term " Rhytides " but a mere definition in English or any other language would be welcome ! The context is " treatment of periorbital wrinkles and rhytids " . Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Suzanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 > I am trying to find the French equivalent of the term " Rhytides " but > a mere definition in English or any other language would be > welcome ! The context is " treatment of periorbital wrinkles and > rhytids " . D'après Stedman's, " rhytide " = skin wrinckle. Ce seraient des synonymes. Ton document fait-il une nette différence ? A ma connaissance, on parle simplement de " rides " en FR, bien que le terme rhytidectomie (= face lift) existe. Les dicos médicaux Garnier-Flammarion et Delamare sont négatifs pour " rhytide " en FR. Idem pour Google FR. Si on veut spécifier, on parle de rides profondes et rides superficielles. Il existe aussi le terme " ridule " . Pour comme pour Larousse, les ridules sont de petites rides. Le terme " petite " étant imprécis, cela pourrait signifier rides courtes ou rides superficielles. Je viens de me regarder dans un miroir et mes rides courtes sont également superficielles, et inversement. A+, f _____________________________ François Malaise, DMV EN>FR Biomedical Translations Tel: +32-(0)65.82.54.40 Cell: +32-(0)475.53.75.73 Fax: +1-530 326-8112 E-mail: fmalaise@... http://www.foreignword.com/cv/document_743.htm ______________________________ Caminante, no hay camino, sino estelas en la mar. Machado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Merci beaucoup. En fait, j'étais arrivée à la même conclusion, à savoir que rides = rythides, d'après les définitions des dictionnaires et les pages Web que j'ai parcourues. Je ne comprends pas pourquoi le document mentionne de façon répétitive " periorbital wrinkles and rhytides " . Il faudra que l'agence de traduction pose la question au client... Cordialement, Suzanne > > I am trying to find the French equivalent of the term " Rhytides " but > > a mere definition in English or any other language would be > > welcome ! The context is " treatment of periorbital wrinkles and > > rhytids " . > > D'après Stedman's, " rhytide " = skin wrinckle. Ce seraient des synonymes. Ton > document fait-il une nette différence ? > > A ma connaissance, on parle simplement de " rides " en FR, bien que le terme > rhytidectomie (= face lift) existe. Les dicos médicaux Garnier- Flammarion et > Delamare sont négatifs pour " rhytide " en FR. Idem pour Google FR. > > Si on veut spécifier, on parle de rides profondes et rides superficielles. > > Il existe aussi le terme " ridule " . Pour comme pour Larousse, les > ridules sont de petites rides. Le terme " petite " étant imprécis, cela > pourrait signifier rides courtes ou rides superficielles. Je viens de me > regarder dans un miroir et mes rides courtes sont également superficielles, > et inversement. > > A+, > > f > > > _____________________________ > François Malaise, DMV > EN>FR Biomedical Translations > Tel: +32-(0)65.82.54.40 > Cell: +32-(0)475.53.75.73 > Fax: +1-530 326-8112 > E-mail: fmalaise@s... > http://www.foreignword.com/cv/document_743.htm > ______________________________ > > Caminante, no hay camino, > sino estelas en la mar. > > Machado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Hi Suzanne, Apparently, rhytides can be fine or deep. See: If fine or deep rhytides are present... http://www.emedicine.com/ent/topic616.htm I have also found: .... and resulting rhytides (facial lines or wrinkles) The official anatomy word for a wrinkle is rhytide. Those creases in the top half of your face, the rhytides plowed across your forehead and around your eyes, this is dynamic wrinkling, also called hyperfunctional facial lines, caused by the movement of underlying muscles. Most wrinkles in the lower half of the face are static rhytides, caused by sun and gravity. http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=0385509472 & view=excerpt Another interesting word -- same etymology -- in FR: See Le Grand : RHYTIDOME. n. m. Étymologie : 1870; grec rhutidoma ou rhutidôsis «ride, rugosité». Tissu cellulaire péridermique fissuré, fendillé, à la périphérie du liber des plantes ligneuses, appelé couramment écorce. Rhytidome persistant du chêne, caduc de la vigne. Rhytidome annulaire, écailleux " Lissage " is the officially approved FR word for " rhytidectomy " in TERMIUM. Regards, /ar At 21:16 2004-08-16, you wrote: >I am actually editing a text where the translator translated " periorbital >wrinkles and rhytides " as " rides périorbitaires et rides glabellaires " >(frown line) but since there are so many mistakes anyway, I started to >check and found absolutely nothing to support that. > >Regards, >Suzanne > Re: Re: wrinkles > > > Hello Suzanne, > I think rhytide is " ridule " > Like François, I cannot find the term in any of my French medical > dictionnaries > On Google I found the term " deep rhytides " So I suppose that the > difference between > wrinkles and rhytides (entre rides et ridules) is a matter of lenghth > and not > depth. > Any dermatologist around ? > Amicalement > JF > > > Message du 15/08/04 00:23 > > De : " rsuz1103 " > > A : medical_translation > > Copie & agrave; : > > Objet : Re: wrinkles > > > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to find the French equivalent of the term " Rhytides " but > > a mere definition in English or any other language would be > > welcome ! The context is " treatment of periorbital wrinkles and > > rhytids " . > > > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > Regards, > > > > Suzanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Maybe it rhytides should be translated as " lignes d'expression " (facial lines) .... Suzanne Re: Re: wrinkles > > > Hello Suzanne, > I think rhytide is " ridule " > Like François, I cannot find the term in any of my French medical > dictionnaries > On Google I found the term " deep rhytides " So I suppose that the > difference between > wrinkles and rhytides (entre rides et ridules) is a matter of lenghth > and not > depth. > Any dermatologist around ? > Amicalement > JF > > > Message du 15/08/04 00:23 > > De : " rsuz1103 " > > A : medical_translation > > Copie & agrave; : > > Objet : Re: wrinkles > > > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to find the French equivalent of the term " Rhytides " but > > a mere definition in English or any other language would be > > welcome ! The context is " treatment of periorbital wrinkles and > > rhytids " . > > > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > Regards, > > > > Suzanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Pas seulement les rides d'expression. The Mosby Medical Encyclopedia 10-01-1996 rhytid-, rhitid-, a combining form meaning wrinkle, or wrinkled. http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc0.asp?docid=1P1:28739499 http://www.onlinesurgery.com/procedures/face_lift.php The term rhytidectomy is derived from the Latin word rhytid, which means wrinkle, and ectomy which means removal of; thus, rhytidectomy is the removal of lax skin. These wrinkles can be related to age, heredity or environmental factors. http://www.channel1.com/users/sevinor/flift.htm /ar At 09:35 2004-08-17, you wrote: >Maybe it rhytides should be translated as " lignes d'expression " (facial >lines) ... > >Suzanne > Re: Re: wrinkles > > > > > > Hello Suzanne, > > I think rhytide is " ridule " > > Like François, I cannot find the term in any of my French medical > > dictionnaries > > On Google I found the term " deep rhytides " So I suppose that the > > difference between > > wrinkles and rhytides (entre rides et ridules) is a matter of lenghth > > and not > > depth. > > Any dermatologist around ? > > Amicalement > > JF > > > > > Message du 15/08/04 00:23 > > > De : " rsuz1103 " > > > A : medical_translation > > > Copie & agrave; : > > > Objet : Re: wrinkles > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am trying to find the French equivalent of the term " Rhytides " but > > > a mere definition in English or any other language would be > > > welcome ! The context is " treatment of periorbital wrinkles and > > > rhytids " . > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Suzanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Dans ce cas, " wrinkles and rhytides " ne veut tout simplement rien dire ! Suzanne Re: Re: wrinkles > > > > > > Hello Suzanne, > > I think rhytide is " ridule " > > Like François, I cannot find the term in any of my French medical > > dictionnaries > > On Google I found the term " deep rhytides " So I suppose that the > > difference between > > wrinkles and rhytides (entre rides et ridules) is a matter of lenghth > > and not > > depth. > > Any dermatologist around ? > > Amicalement > > JF > > > > > Message du 15/08/04 00:23 > > > De : " rsuz1103 " > > > A : medical_translation > > > Copie & agrave; : > > > Objet : Re: wrinkles > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am trying to find the French equivalent of the term " Rhytides " but > > > a mere definition in English or any other language would be > > > welcome ! The context is " treatment of periorbital wrinkles and > > > rhytids " . > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Suzanne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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