Re: Woman would not share EMEM- to Jane

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Hi Josie,When came down hard on homeopathics and simply wouldn't let up, I knew we had a poor moderator. When texts were submitted that debunked Randy's claim that no one had come forward with proof and ignored it, I knew he wasn't an open-minded thinker, which in the area of Lyme and Rife, is a real contradiction. He was so eager to debunk one protocol, but so lenient toward JMiessner and Co.Then, when I volunteered info about the FScan, he just about implied that I was being taken for a ride by a con man. I realized that not being a techie put me at a disadvantage when I tried to explain, but Sutherland's frequencies have been so successful that I was really shocked that didn't know about him or at  least google his various sites. That was very disheartening.As long as critters can hide for up to twenty years, I think none of us will ever be able to claim that we're Lyme-free. At first, that realization depressed me, butthen  I remembered that few people can ever really say they're "cancer-free", as there are mutated, potentially dangerous cells in everyone, all the time. For the most part, they are so outnumbered by healthy cells that they don't become cancer as we know it. Lyme gives (forces on us) a sense of personal responsibility and vigilance that will stand us in good stead, and it's something I do believe we can LIVE with! The sicker we are, the weller we get. Josie, you are not without friends. We are here and we care. I haven't known what to say, but I do know what to feel and I hold you in my heart and send you love and healing thoughts, for what they're worth. There is room for recovery. I'm 63 now, and three years ago I was circling the drain and , yes, praying for death. Now I see lots of time and opportunity ahead and am immensely grateful for every moment...well, almost every moment.We're all in this together and i'm glad you're here.Be well, my friend,Léna Jane:    I don't want to make anybody cry!   The woman who owned many of the EMEM machines and loaned them out had cancer.  She had cured herself of it with the machine.  I was disappointed by her unwillingness to share, but it may have been because I was not a cancer patient, and that is her personal mission.   She did not know what Lyme Disease was.  People on this list are wonderful, and it is so nice to be able to share info. w/out being attacked.  It got to the point that I didn't even post anecdotal info I had about Rife machines because I knew I would be met with "proof" of some sort that I was wrong.  I remember one of those messages said the diagnostic capability of the F Scan was phony, and several knowledgeable owners had realized that it was a random number generator, I think was the term used.  I just stopped at that point.  I know half a dozen people with the F Scan, and they have had phenomenal success with it diagnostically and in treatment.  Some have cancer AND Lyme Disease. (What a horrible though!)  I will add, though, that for those who have both cancer and Lyme Disease, it did not quite seem to finish the job on the Lyme Disease. It kept it under good control until the Doug coil came.   When they added the Dough coil from , they had enormous improvement very quickly   Josie             Josie: Your message has brought tears to my eyes. I'm so very sorry. I'm glad that you ordered an EMEM machine. I think you are on the right track, there. It's too bad that the contact person who you were referred to, within traveling distance, is "too busy" to lend you one of her machines. That's not the norm in the Lyme community. What I've found, almost across the board, are people who really put themselves out to help fellow lymies. Hopefully, you will get your machine sooner than you expect. I wish you the best. Regards,Jane

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Hi Lena,

I hate to say this, but I feel I need to voice some issues about , that have been on my mind for awhile. What you have said in your post is absolutely vaild, unfortunately. My take on what's influenced , is that he has a vested interest in protecting Jim M.

's wife is basically now on the CS protocol for controlling her Lyme, supplied through Jim M.'s Nano Silver Generator, I believe. Her success with that protocol may be what's fueling 's loyalty to Jim M., It's clear that Jim M., as a manufacturer, has no right to post on a yahoo group in the way he has been doing, as that is a violation of yahoo group guidelines. The guidelines do NOT state, "no selling", as has oft been quoted by . What article number 6 of those guidelines states, is in fact, "no advertising". What could be considered advertising, is almost any statement Jim M. makes regarding the DP100. The other rife machine manufacturer (a member of this list, who I shall not name), has never advertised his machine. He has provided information, and that's all. There is a very distinct difference in the character of his posts to yahoo groups, and the content of Jim M.'s posts.

I'm wondering if 's bias about the FScan could be due to Jim M.'s influence. I have seen Jim M.'s posts, totally debunking the Fscan as a viable machine. 's attitude towards the FScan, and also homeopathy, is irresponsible, and is unacceptable. As a moderator, he should maintain total neutrality. That's part of the job. He claims he has done just that, by allowing Jim M. to continue to post. I beg to differ.

- Jane

Jane:

I don't want to make anybody cry!

The woman who owned many of the EMEM machines and loaned them out had cancer. She had cured herself of it with the machine. I was disappointed by her unwillingness to share, but it may have been because I was not a cancer patient, and that is her personal mission. She did not know what Lyme Disease was.

People on this list are wonderful, and it is so nice to be able to share info. w/out being attacked. It got to the point that I didn't even post anecdotal info I had about Rife machines because I knew I would be met with "proof" of some sort that I was wrong.

I remember one of those messages said the diagnostic capability of the F Scan was phony, and several knowledgeable owners had realized that it was a random number generator, I think was the term used. I just stopped at that point.

I know half a dozen people with the F Scan, and they have had phenomenal success with it diagnostically and in treatment. Some have cancer AND Lyme Disease. (What a horrible though!)

I will add, though, that for those who have both cancer and Lyme Disease, it did not quite seem to finish the job on the Lyme Disease. It kept it under good control until the Doug coil came. When they added the Dough coil from , they had enormous improvement very quickly Josie

Josie: Your message has brought tears to my eyes. I'm so very sorry. I'm glad that you ordered an EMEM machine. I think you are on the right track, there. It's too bad that the contact person who you were referred to, within traveling distance, is "too busy" to lend you one of her machines. That's not the norm in the Lyme community. What I've found, almost across the board, are people who really put themselves out to help fellow lymies. Hopefully, you will get your machine sooner than you expect. I wish you the best. Regards,Jane

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Hi Jane and Lena,

just emailed me a post by Jim and I won't repost it here as I don't want

to fuel the flames nor do it without his permission. However in his most recent

post, he is saying that electromagnetic fields do not penetrate very deep into

the body while the electric fields of his DP100 do penetrate deep. Anyway,

countered with an article that totally debunks what Jim was saying and I

am sure is now bracing for the new eruption that will inevitably take

place. It is unbelievable the false claims he makes and I wonder how many

people are sucked in? would just bag it and come over here, accept like

Jim Jax, he thinks somebody needs to call him on his BS. It would serve them

all right if someone turned them in for breaking the no advertising rule.

Maggie

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>  I don't want to make anybody cry!  

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> The woman who owned many of the EMEM machines and loaned them out had cancer. 

She had cured herself of it with the machine.  I was disappointed by her

unwillingness to share, but it may have been because I was not a cancer patient,

and that is her personal mission.   She did not know what Lyme Disease was. 

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> People on this list are wonderful, and it is so nice to be able to share info.

w/out being attacked.  It got to the point that I didn't even post anecdotal

info I had about Rife machines because I knew I would be met with " proof " of

some sort that I was wrong. 

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> I remember one of those messages said the diagnostic capability of the F Scan

was phony, and several knowledgeable owners had realized that it was a random

number generator, I think was the term used.  I just stopped at that point. 

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> I know half a dozen people with the F Scan, and they have had phenomenal

success with it diagnostically and in treatment.  Some have cancer AND Lyme

Disease. (What a horrible though!) 

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> I will add, though, that for those who have both cancer and Lyme Disease, it

did not quite seem to finish the job on the Lyme Disease. It kept it under good

control until the Doug coil came.   When they added the Dough coil from ,

they had enormous improvement very quickly   Josie

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> Josie: Your message has brought tears to my eyes. I'm so very sorry. I'm glad

that you ordered an EMEM machine. I think you are on the right track, there.

It's too bad that the contact person who you were referred to, within traveling

distance, is " too busy " to lend you one of her machines. That's not the norm in

the Lyme community. What I've found, almost across the board, are people who

really put themselves out to help fellow lymies. Hopefully, you will get your

machine sooner than you expect. I wish you the best.

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> Jane

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