Re: Can KT increase your Bad Cholesterol

[Guest guest]

Jo--

There's no way that KT increases bad cholesterol. It does however detox

the body, and products of the body that are being detoxed may be read as

" present " when in fact they are being eliminated. I'm not medically

trained, and this theory of detox is not my own, but it makes sense to me

intuitively.

But, perhaps you might be interested in the latest research which shows

that the focus on cholesterol numbers may be misplaced.

http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/cholesterol_skeptics.html

I can't seem to find the article again, but I just saw an item that

presented research showing that eating 2 eggs a day actually increases good

cholesterol. Another example is that coconut oil was once deemed a bad

fat, because it becomes solid at room temperature it was believed to block

the arteries. However, it melts at below our body temperature... so it

would never be solid inside our bodies, therefore would never block an

artery. In fact, it's been proved to protect heart health, increase

metabolism, etc.

Anyway point being, you might want to consider whether the focus on your

cholesterol levels is causing stress, which is indeed harmful to heart

health, and whether it might warrant a reconsideration of the drugs you're

taking. Depending on your circumstances, of course. But I keep seeing

articles saying that the traditional understanding of cholesterol (upon

which the drug-protocols are based) is wrong, and that the side effects and

stress involved in the drug protocols may be doing more harm than good. The

article I've linked to above states that:

> led off with a slide showing the results of all the major clinical

> trials that attempted to prove that lowering cholesterol in healthy but

> high-risk people would reduce their death rate from heart disease. " The

> reduced rates of cardiovascular mortality were small for men and

> non-existent for women, " said Dr. Ravnskov, who is the author of The

> Cholesterol Myths, a paperback that refutes the theory that cholesterol

> in our food and in our blood causes heart disease.

>

>These cholesterol trials also looked at total mortality, that is, the

>deaths from all causes, and found little difference between the study

>participants who tried to lower their cholesterol and those who did not.

>In other words, some clinical trials showed that the heart disease death

>rates were, in fact, lower among men who had reduced their cholesterol

>levels. But this benefit was offset by a higher rate of deaths from other

>causes.

http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/cholesterol_skeptics.html

wishing you best health,

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I am going to print that out for my Dr, who wants me to go on Zocor even

though my cholesterol is 204

Peace and Blessings

~*~ Akiba ~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://yodamamma.blogspot.com/

http://www.solay-twinflames.com

-- Re: Can KT increase your Bad Cholesterol

Jo--

There's no way that KT increases bad cholesterol. It does however detox

the body, and products of the body that are being detoxed may be read as

" present " when in fact they are being eliminated. I'm not medically

trained, and this theory of detox is not my own, but it makes sense to me

intuitively.

But, perhaps you might be interested in the latest research which shows

that the focus on cholesterol numbers may be misplaced.

http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/cholesterol_skeptics.html

I can't seem to find the article again, but I just saw an item that

presented research showing that eating 2 eggs a day actually increases good

cholesterol. Another example is that coconut oil was once deemed a bad

fat, because it becomes solid at room temperature it was believed to block

the arteries. However, it melts at below our body temperature... so it

would never be solid inside our bodies, therefore would never block an

artery. In fact, it's been proved to protect heart health, increase

metabolism, etc.

Anyway point being, you might want to consider whether the focus on your

cholesterol levels is causing stress, which is indeed harmful to heart

health, and whether it might warrant a reconsideration of the drugs you're

taking. Depending on your circumstances, of course. But I keep seeing

articles saying that the traditional understanding of cholesterol (upon

which the drug-protocols are based) is wrong, and that the side effects and

stress involved in the drug protocols may be doing more harm than good. The

article I've linked to above states that:

> led off with a slide showing the results of all the major clinical

> trials that attempted to prove that lowering cholesterol in healthy but

> high-risk people would reduce their death rate from heart disease. " The

> reduced rates of cardiovascular mortality were small for men and

> non-existent for women, " said Dr. Ravnskov, who is the author of The

> Cholesterol Myths, a paperback that refutes the theory that cholesterol

> in our food and in our blood causes heart disease.

>

>These cholesterol trials also looked at total mortality, that is, the

>deaths from all causes, and found little difference between the study

>participants who tried to lower their cholesterol and those who did not.

>In other words, some clinical trials showed that the heart disease death

>rates were, in fact, lower among men who had reduced their cholesterol

>levels. But this benefit was offset by a higher rate of deaths from other

>causes.

http://www.medicalconsumers.org/pages/cholesterol_skeptics.html

wishing you best health,

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I think the whole cholesterol thing is a hoax but if you are really

concerned by mother has had great success with red yeast rice.

Allyn

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Can KT increase your Bad Cholesterol

I had a blood test recently and my bad Cholesterol is up from last year

I'm trying to avoid taking any more meds but can't think what else

could make it rise.

I know there are many factors that can but don't fit into those.

Has anyone noticed the same effect or have a plausable reason why KT

would not do this. Don't want to stop drinking it altogether.

I was drinking about 500 mls per day but have cut back a bit.

Thank you KT members for being here :-)

Jo

[Guest guest]

You might want to check

http://www.westonaprice.org/cgi-script/csSearchPro/csSearchPro.cgi

maria.

On Behalf Of jorad47

I had a blood test recently and my bad Cholesterol is up from last year

I'm trying to avoid taking any more meds but can't think what else

could make it rise.

I know there are many factors that can but don't fit into those.

Has anyone noticed the same effect or have a plausable reason why KT

would not do this. Don't want to stop drinking it altogether.

I was drinking about 500 mls per day but have cut back a bit.

Thank you KT members for being here :-)

Jo

[Guest guest]

Thank you & all those that have answered this post so far

I didn't think KT would make it higher and it has helped me with

digestion so far + a few other changes I have made to diet.

" But I keep seeing articles saying that the traditional understanding

of cholesterol (upon which the drug-protocols are based) is wrong "

Me too I read several before posting ?

New Zealand reads cholesterol differently than USA & my total

cholesterol reading was 7.8 the norm being around 5 but to my mind

that is optimum for a healthy young person I am 59 so don't think this

is too high!

I have 3 months to get it lower myself before they start to try &

persuade me to take drugs.

Have come to think the last couple of years that they [doctors]try to

make you a regular customer

Jo

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I know people have reported that Kombucha lowered their Cholesterol

especially when they made it with Pu-erh tea.....

Can't recall anyone ever saying that their Cholesterol went up from

using KT. I would doubt it....

Lots of people who become hypothyroid have one of the first signs as a

rise in Cholesterol....might be worth checking out....

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

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> You might want to check

> http://www.westonaprice.org/cgi-script/csSearchPro/csSearchPro.cgi

> maria.

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>

>

> On Behalf Of jorad47

>

> I had a blood test recently and my bad Cholesterol is up from last year

> I'm trying to avoid taking any more meds but can't think what else

> could make it rise.

> I know there are many factors that can but don't fit into those.

>

> Has anyone noticed the same effect or have a plausable reason why KT

> would not do this. Don't want to stop drinking it altogether.

> I was drinking about 500 mls per day but have cut back a bit.

>

> Thank you KT members for being here :-)

> Jo

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>Have come to think the last couple of years that they [doctors]try to

>make you a regular customer

>

>Jo

I think so too. It's gotten to where no one is healthy by their standards,

everyone needs to be " managed " with their maintenance drugs. And probably

people in general are less healthy than they could be, but we know for a

fact health doesn't come from Big Pharma. Mitigation of symptoms,

sometimes, even life-saving interventions at times. But health? No.

So if you don't want to take the drugs, just simply say no. It's up to

you. They might try to guilt trip you or say that they will wash their

hands of you if you don't, but-- Just Say No!

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

what is red yeast rice? and where do you get it ? Rita

Can KT increase your Bad Cholesterol

I had a blood test recently and my bad Cholesterol is up from last year

I'm trying to avoid taking any more meds but can't think what else

could make it rise.

I know there are many factors that can but don't fit into those.

Has anyone noticed the same effect or have a plausable reason why KT

would not do this. Don't want to stop drinking it altogether.

I was drinking about 500 mls per day but have cut back a bit.

Thank you KT members for being here :-)

Jo

[Guest guest]

Rusty-- I've been taking TMG and am really happy with the results. It's

recommended for helping heal those cracks and ruptures in the vein

walls. It also converts to SAM-E, which is why I'm taking it.

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I would suggest you do some research into the cholesterol thing. Read the

book " The Cholesterol Myths " by Dr. Ravnskov.

There is other research on the web as well.

Allyn

------------------------------------

PRIORITY INVESTMENTS N' KOLLATERAL,INC.

ALLYN FERRIS

PRESIDENT

AFERRIS@...

4548A WEST VILLAGE DR.

TAMPA, FL 33624

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Re: Can KT increase your Bad Cholesterol

>I have 3 months to get it lower myself before they start to try &

persuade me to take drugs.

-

The protocol regarding Fats in the diet is that Fats per se do not raise

cholesterol but Avoid Hydrogenated or Trans Fatty sources of fats, [Things

that are unnaturally solidified at room temperature].

High Blood cholesterol is generally a result of the repair process as tiny

cracks or ruptures in the vein walls are patched with blobs of cholesterol

and calcium sticks to it and plaque build up begins.

These vessel cracks are more often than not a result of drawing on insulin

because of a diet too high in starches and sugars.

It's very important to avoid SWEET FATS.

Donuts, Ice Cream, etc. will add more LDL cholesterol to your veins than

butter and cheeze.

Toast and Jam and Orange Juice is a Bad Breakfast for causing LDL and

diabetes but Bacon and Eggs, without the toast, is OK.

To Lower the cholesterol take fats that contain Omega 3 fatty acids, lots of

Vitamins E and C, and follow a diabetic's diet. Your LDL levels will

steadily come down

Drink all the KT you want and Lots of Water.

500 mg. of Magnesium per day will lubricate the blood cells and help them

slip through the blockages lowering the possibility of stroke from your

condition.

I'd suggest two separate doses of 250 g., as higher magnesium intake may

result in diarrhea.

rusty

Re: Can KT increase your Bad Cholesterol

Thank you & all those that have answered this post so far

I didn't think KT would make it higher and it has helped me with

digestion so far + a few other changes I have made to diet.

" But I keep seeing articles saying that the traditional understanding

of cholesterol (upon which the drug-protocols are based) is wrong "

Me too I read several before posting ?

New Zealand reads cholesterol differently than USA & my total

cholesterol reading was 7.8 the norm being around 5 but to my mind

that is optimum for a healthy young person I am 59 so don't think this

is too high!

I have 3 months to get it lower myself before they start to try &

persuade me to take drugs.

Have come to think the last couple of years that they [doctors]try to

make you a regular customer

Jo

[Guest guest]

Thanks Rusty for info :

I think my diet is already good and don't eat a lot of sweet foods,

eat butter instead of marg and take 500mg vit c + a multi every day

don't smoke or drink [except an odd glass of wine ]

I know there is a hereditory factor maybe that's just the reason

will try to walk it off :-) I could stand to loose 8 LBS or anyway

Jo

>

> >I have 3 months to get it lower myself before they start to try &

> persuade me to take drugs.

> -

[Guest guest]

>I have 3 months to get it lower myself before they start to try &

persuade me to take drugs.

-

The protocol regarding Fats in the diet is that Fats per se do not raise

cholesterol but Avoid Hydrogenated or Trans Fatty sources of fats, [Things that

are unnaturally solidified at room temperature].

High Blood cholesterol is generally a result of the repair process as tiny

cracks or ruptures in the vein walls are patched with blobs of cholesterol and

calcium sticks to it and plaque build up begins.

These vessel cracks are more often than not a result of drawing on insulin

because of a diet too high in starches and sugars.

It's very important to avoid SWEET FATS.

Donuts, Ice Cream, etc. will add more LDL cholesterol to your veins than butter

and cheeze.

Toast and Jam and Orange Juice is a Bad Breakfast for causing LDL and diabetes

but Bacon and Eggs, without the toast, is OK.

To Lower the cholesterol take fats that contain Omega 3 fatty acids, lots of

Vitamins E and C, and follow a diabetic's diet. Your LDL levels will steadily

come down

Drink all the KT you want and Lots of Water.

500 mg. of Magnesium per day will lubricate the blood cells and help them slip

through the blockages lowering the possibility of stroke from your condition.

I'd suggest two separate doses of 250 g., as higher magnesium intake may result

in diarrhea.

rusty

Re: Can KT increase your Bad Cholesterol

Thank you & all those that have answered this post so far

I didn't think KT would make it higher and it has helped me with

digestion so far + a few other changes I have made to diet.

" But I keep seeing articles saying that the traditional understanding

of cholesterol (upon which the drug-protocols are based) is wrong "

Me too I read several before posting ?

New Zealand reads cholesterol differently than USA & my total

cholesterol reading was 7.8 the norm being around 5 but to my mind

that is optimum for a healthy young person I am 59 so don't think this

is too high!

I have 3 months to get it lower myself before they start to try &

persuade me to take drugs.

Have come to think the last couple of years that they [doctors]try to

make you a regular customer

Jo