Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Sangeeta, CMV is in the herpes family, but I am sure you know this? Anne > > Hi Stan (and others), > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son (500mg 2x/day) > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any regression or > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to Valtrex. > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels from a > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his Herpes > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV and > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test results > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We gave him > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. Well, he's > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind of day > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty happy > little kid. > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping Valtrex? > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > TIA for your comments, > Sangeeta > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Anne, Thanks for your reply. No I was not aware of this. None of the research we looked at mentioned this. The only treatment for CMV is listed as gangcyclovir which is a very risky procedure. Apparently Valtrex is not recommended for CMV. Can you point me to reading materials which show the link between Herpes and CMV? I'd really appreciate that!! Sangeeta > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son (500mg > 2x/day) > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any regression or > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to Valtrex. > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels from a > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his > Herpes > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV and > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test > results > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We gave him > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. Well, he's > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind of day > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty happy > > little kid. > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping > Valtrex? > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > TIA for your comments, > > Sangeeta > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 http://www.virology.net/Big_Virology/BVDNAherpes.html http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/cmv.htm http://www.gsk.com.au/gskinternet/publishing.nsf/Content/Valtrex Sangeeta, While these links show that CMV is in the herpes family, none suggests that Valtrex really is known to work against it. Interestingly though, the last link discussed the use of Valtrex in preventing CMV infection. Please let us know how your son does. We will be starting Valtrex next week. Anne > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son (500mg > > 2x/day) > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any regression or > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to Valtrex. > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels from > a > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his > > Herpes > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV and > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test > > results > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We gave > him > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. Well, he's > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind of > day > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty > happy > > > little kid. > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping > > Valtrex? > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Anne, Thanks SO much!!! Sangeeta > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son (500mg > > > 2x/day) > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any regression > or > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to Valtrex. > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels > from > > a > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his > > > Herpes > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV and > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test > > > results > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We gave > > him > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. Well, > he's > > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind of > > day > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty > > happy > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping > > > Valtrex? > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Sangeeta, GARLIC is said to have very potent anti-CMV properties! If you go to Pubmed search engine, type in garlic and citomegalovirus a number of papers showing this should pull up. Natasa > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son (500mg > > 2x/day) > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any regression or > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to Valtrex. > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels from > a > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his > > Herpes > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV and > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test > > results > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We gave > him > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. Well, he's > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind of > day > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty > happy > > > little kid. > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping > > Valtrex? > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Thanks Natasa! Unfortunately my son has PST issues and can't tolerate garlic at all. It would have been wonderful to be able to give it to him. I'm hoping that with chelation we will be able to resolve all the associated issues and he'll be able to eat regular food!! Sangeeta > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son (500mg > > > 2x/day) > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any regression or > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to Valtrex. > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels from > > a > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his > > > Herpes > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV and > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test > > > results > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We gave > > him > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. Well, he's > > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind of > > day > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty > > happy > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping > > > Valtrex? > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Sangeeta, How is your son doing? Anne > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son (500mg > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > regression or > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to Valtrex. > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels > from > > > a > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his > > > > Herpes > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV and > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test > > > > results > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We gave > > > him > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. Well, > he's > > > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind of > > > day > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty > > > happy > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Would he tolerate allitridin on its own (that is the active anti-CMV ingredient in garlic) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dop\ t=Abstract & list_uids=12938515 & query_hl=24 & itool=pubmed_docsum this one is on the effects of lactoferin on CMV http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dop\ t=Abstract & list_uids=15451188 & query_hl=27 & itool=pubmed_docsum Best wishes, Natasa > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son (500mg > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > regression or > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to Valtrex. > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels > from > > > a > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his > > > > Herpes > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV and > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test > > > > results > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We gave > > > him > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. Well, > he's > > > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind of > > > day > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty > > > happy > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Anne, Thanks for asking. The bad mood/weepyness went away in the evening. He has been having heavy and somewhat frequent urination (wetting bathroom floor because he couldn't undress on time to aim in the potty), etc. These kind of things happen to him when he is dumping a lot of metals and/or some viruses are being stirred up. He is dumping mercury & lead as per his last chelation report so that could be the reason. But if it is the viruses I'm curious why it started the day we stopped Valtrex. It's all such a puzzle! Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son > (500mg > > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > > regression or > > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to > Valtrex. > > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels > > from > > > > a > > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his > > > > > Herpes > > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV > and > > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test > > > > > results > > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We > gave > > > > him > > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. > Well, > > he's > > > > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind > of > > > > day > > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty > > > > happy > > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping > > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Thanks Natasa!!! I have forwarded your post to my DH who will research these further to see if they can benefit our son. I appreciate your help!! Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son (500mg > > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > > regression or > > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to Valtrex. > > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels > > from > > > > a > > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his > > > > > Herpes > > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV and > > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test > > > > > results > > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We gave > > > > him > > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. Well, > > he's > > > > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind of > > > > day > > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty > > > > happy > > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping > > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Sangeeta, I am very curious...Have you chelated your son since you started Valtrex? Anne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son > > (500mg > > > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > > > regression or > > > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to > > Valtrex. > > > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test > panels > > > from > > > > > a > > > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that > his > > > > > > Herpes > > > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his > CMV > > and > > > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and > test > > > > > > results > > > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We > > gave > > > > > him > > > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. > > Well, > > > he's > > > > > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish > kind > > of > > > > > day > > > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a > pretty > > > > > happy > > > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from > stopping > > > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yes, we have been chelating with TD-DMPS for 14 months now. 4 weeks ago we started weekly IV glutathionne. We saw some good improvements from this addition. Then 2 weeks ago we added Valtrex. He kept on doing well. Basically we didn't see anything different from Valtrex in the 2 weeks he was on it. In the meantime DH was worried that the glutathionne that we were hoping would aid in metal dumping would instead be used to get rid of Valtrex from the body. And since we weren't seeing any regressions/wows and our son has Herpes in normal range, DH decided to stop the Valtrex. And that's when I posted my concern because it looked like withdrawal symptoms to me. Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son > > > (500mg > > > > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > > > > regression or > > > > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to > > > Valtrex. > > > > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test > > panels > > > > from > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated > that > > his > > > > > > > Herpes > > > > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his > > CMV > > > and > > > > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and > > test > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. > We > > > gave > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. > > > Well, > > > > he's > > > > > > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish > > kind > > > of > > > > > > day > > > > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a > > pretty > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from > > stopping > > > > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after > stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 So you were chelating your son the whole while on Valtrex? I am just asking because we are trying to figure out how to handle our upcoming addition of Valtrex to the equation. Curious again - did you see any yeast with the Valtrex? Does your son normally have yeast with the DMPS? Anne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo > son > > > > (500mg > > > > > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > > > > > regression or > > > > > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to > > > > Valtrex. > > > > > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test > > > panels > > > > > from > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated > > that > > > his > > > > > > > > Herpes > > > > > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However > his > > > CMV > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " > and > > > test > > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop > Valtrex. > > We > > > > gave > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely > today. > > > > Well, > > > > > he's > > > > > > > > > having a really > emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish > > > kind > > > > of > > > > > > > day > > > > > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a > > > pretty > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from > > > stopping > > > > > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after > > stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 We added Nystatin a couple of days before Valtrex. My son doesn't normally get yeast from DMPS because we use the transdermal form. Also we are very strict about diet/sugar and also give him probiotics regularly. His OAT was clear the last time we checked. But we added nystatin because we were going to add Valtrex. Usually Nystatin work well for him if/when he has a yeast flareup so we preferred that to Diflucan. Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo > > son > > > > > (500mg > > > > > > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > > > > > > regression or > > > > > > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute > to > > > > > Valtrex. > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral > test > > > > panels > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated > > > that > > > > his > > > > > > > > > Herpes > > > > > > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However > > his > > > > CMV > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " > > and > > > > test > > > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop > > Valtrex. > > > We > > > > > gave > > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely > > today. > > > > > Well, > > > > > > he's > > > > > > > > > > having a really > > emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish > > > > kind > > > > > of > > > > > > > > day > > > > > > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is > a > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from > > > > stopping > > > > > > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after > > > stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I wouldn't stop based on high CMV and Rubeola. I also would have ridden out the full 45 days before deciding if the Valtrex was working. The regression from stopping is also a sign that it was helping kick something up and/or out in some way. Not everyone that sees gains from Valtrex has a healing-regression. It sounded to me like you were on a good track. I would try again. I would start from the beginning with 45 days of Valtrex and an antifungal. - Stan > > Hi Stan (and others), > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son (500mg 2x/day) > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any regression or > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to Valtrex. > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test panels from a > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that his Herpes > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his CMV and > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and test results > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We gave him > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. Well, he's > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish kind of day > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a pretty happy > little kid. > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from stopping Valtrex? > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > TIA for your comments, > Sangeeta > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I think it's very telling. I would get back on. - Stan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo son > > (500mg > > > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > > > regression or > > > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to > > Valtrex. > > > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test > panels > > > from > > > > > a > > > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated that > his > > > > > > Herpes > > > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However his > CMV > > and > > > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " and > test > > > > > > results > > > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop Valtrex. We > > gave > > > > > him > > > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely today. > > Well, > > > he's > > > > > > > having a really emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish > kind > > of > > > > > day > > > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a > pretty > > > > > happy > > > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from > stopping > > > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 There is no withdrawls from Valtrex. And actually Valtrex may be helping produce glutathione in some children by improving methylation through lowering adenosine and other ways that we have not yet discovered. The assumption that Valtrex lowers Glutathione is unfounded IMO. I have only seen evidence to the contrary. Your DH have exactly opposite thinking. - Stan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo > son > > > > (500mg > > > > > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > > > > > regression or > > > > > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to > > > > Valtrex. > > > > > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test > > > panels > > > > > from > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated > > that > > > his > > > > > > > > Herpes > > > > > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However > his > > > CMV > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " > and > > > test > > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop > Valtrex. > > We > > > > gave > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely > today. > > > > Well, > > > > > he's > > > > > > > > > having a really > emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish > > > kind > > > > of > > > > > > > day > > > > > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a > > > pretty > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from > > > stopping > > > > > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after > > stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Thanks for your responses Stan. I think you misunderstood DH's assumption about glutathione. He didn't think Valtrex would reduce glutathionne level. He thinks that the glutathionne that we are giving our son will be used up to detoxify Valtrex from the body as opposed to getting used up for detoxifying metals from the body. Maybe we'll give Valtrex another try in the summer when we don't have to deal with school etc. Thanks again for all your help!! Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Stan (and others), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We had started Valtrex 2 weeks ago for our 8.10 yo > > son > > > > > (500mg > > > > > > > > > 2x/day) > > > > > > > > > > who is also chelating w/ TD-DMPS. We didn't see any > > > > > > regression or > > > > > > > > > > rashes. No real wows either that we can attribute to > > > > > Valtrex. > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday we looked at his Immunosciences viral test > > > > panels > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > couple of years ago. Both testing results indicated > > > that > > > > his > > > > > > > > > Herpes > > > > > > > > > > antibodies were low (within normal range). However > > his > > > > CMV > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Rubeola numbers were very high. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we didn't see any regression/rashes or " wows " > > and > > > > test > > > > > > > > > results > > > > > > > > > > indicate no Herpes issues, we decided to stop > > Valtrex. > > > We > > > > > gave > > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > just 1 pill yesterday and stopped it completely > > today. > > > > > Well, > > > > > > he's > > > > > > > > > > having a really > > emotional/weepy/aggressive/meltdownish > > > > kind > > > > > of > > > > > > > > day > > > > > > > > > > and complaining that he's very tired. He usually is a > > > > pretty > > > > > > > > happy > > > > > > > > > > little kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it common to have " withdrawal " like effects from > > > > stopping > > > > > > > > > Valtrex? > > > > > > > > > > Or are we seeing the " healing regression " after > > > stopping?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA for your comments, > > > > > > > > > > Sangeeta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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