Re: DMAE (was TMG / Folinic: not doing well, any thoughts?)

[Guest guest]

Where do you purchase DMAE? What can we find out about it?

THanks!

kim

[Guest guest]

Berk,

DMAE is one of my daily supplements, along with lecithin. I really feel not up

to snuff

w/o my DMAE and lecithin, and notice if I miss for two days.

Berk Charlton wrote:

> DMAE is a supplement that we have recently starting using for our son,

> and noticed an instant benefit from it (also apparent to his school

> teacher and ABA instructors). There was less distractibility and more

> attention to required tasks. He did seem somewhat more easily agitated

> during the first week of using it.

>

> FWIW, I tried some DMAE on myself and everything I had to do seemed a

> little more interesting!

>

> BC

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for posting this! Would you please tell me the dosage you use for

your son.

Thank you,

Trudy

Re: TMG / Folinic: not doing well, any

thoughts?

> Can someone help us out here. If a child cannot tolerate folinic

or

>TMG,

> does that point to over or under methylation?

That's a good question, and I hope someone will have a good answer

for you!

I know that with SOME supplements, the more deficient someone is

in

it, the more of a negative reaction they have at first. It's sort

of

like when your eyes have been in the dark at a movie theater, and

you

come out into the bright sunlight and the light is too strong at

first, making you squint. When our bodies are deficient in

something

(taurine, for example), the receptors are open wide searching for

it

(just like our pupils in the movie theater) and thus take in too

much

of the supplement (or sunlight) when they finally get some. If we

give only a tiny, tiny fraction of a dosage at first, sometimes we

can tolerate that amount, and slowly build up to a regular dosage

as

the receptors in the body close a little more in response to

getting

some of what they're craving. BUT, I don't know if this is true

for

folinc and/or TMG or not. It was very much true of my son with

taurine, and it was true of ME with biotin.

If the child couldn't tolerate the folinic and TMG because of the

above explanation, then I would think that he/she was an

undermethylator (just guessing here). But if they couldn't

tolerate

it because they already have too much, then I guess they would be

an

overmethylator (again, I'm just guessing).

What type of reactions does your child have to folinic and TMG?

Have

you tried opening up a capsule and giving only a tiny, tiny

fraction

of it? If so, did your child react the same way?

Sorry I don't have any definite answers for you! Hopefully Dr.

McCandless or someone else on the list will! If you've not already

joined the sulfurstories list, that's another place to learn more

about the sulfur chemistry of the body.

Janiece

[Guest guest]

> Where do you purchase DMAE? What can we find out about it?

>

> THanks!

>

> kim

It's available at HFS's and most all on line supplements sources.

Here is some copy from Iherb, and a warning.

DMAE (dimethylaminoethanol) is a natural amino alcohol that is found

in minute quantities in the brain. It is generally regarded as a

precursor to choline, which is needed for the brain to produce

acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter involved in nerve signal

transmission and healthy brain function. Taken as a maintenance

supplement, it works synergistically with other " smart nutrients "

like Ginkgo Biloba, GABA, Phosphatidyl Serine and L-Tyrosine, or can

be taken alone.

Warning: This product is not to be used by those with epilepsy,

bipolar depression or Parkinson's disease. Not for use by pregnant or

lactating women. Keep out of reach of children.

[Guest guest]

Trudy -

We've been giving 100 mg of DMAE twice a day. Our son is 8 now, and

weighs about 70 lbs.

I purchase DMAE from <http://www.beyond-a-century.com/>

www.beyond-a-century.com, which is where I'm starting to purchase more

and more of my supplements. Incredible prices, if you're OK with

getting your supplements as un-encapsulated powders.

BC

Re: DMAE (was TMG / Folinic: not doing well,

any thoughts?)

Thank you for posting this! Would you please tell me the dosage you use

for your son.

Thank you,

Trudy

Re: TMG / Folinic: not doing well, any

thoughts?

> Can someone help us out here. If a child cannot tolerate

folinic

or

>TMG,

> does that point to over or under methylation?

That's a good question, and I hope someone will have a good

answer

for you!

I know that with SOME supplements, the more deficient someone is

in

it, the more of a negative reaction they have at first. It's

sort

of

like when your eyes have been in the dark at a movie theater,

and

you

come out into the bright sunlight and the light is too strong at

first, making you squint. When our bodies are deficient in

something

(taurine, for example), the receptors are open wide searching

for

it

(just like our pupils in the movie theater) and thus take in too

much

of the supplement (or sunlight) when they finally get some. If

we

give only a tiny, tiny fraction of a dosage at first, sometimes

we

can tolerate that amount, and slowly build up to a regular

dosage

as

the receptors in the body close a little more in response to

getting

some of what they're craving. BUT, I don't know if this is true

for

folinc and/or TMG or not. It was very much true of my son with

taurine, and it was true of ME with biotin.

If the child couldn't tolerate the folinic and TMG because of

the

above explanation, then I would think that he/she was an

undermethylator (just guessing here). But if they couldn't

tolerate

it because they already have too much, then I guess they would

be

an

overmethylator (again, I'm just guessing).

What type of reactions does your child have to folinic and TMG?

Have

you tried opening up a capsule and giving only a tiny, tiny

fraction

of it? If so, did your child react the same way?

Sorry I don't have any definite answers for you! Hopefully Dr.

McCandless or someone else on the list will! If you've not

already

joined the sulfurstories list, that's another place to learn

more

about the sulfur chemistry of the body.

Janiece

[Guest guest]

Thanks! Can't wait to try it!

Trudy

Re: TMG / Folinic: not doing well, any

thoughts?

> Can someone help us out here. If a child cannot tolerate

folinic

or

>TMG,

> does that point to over or under methylation?

That's a good question, and I hope someone will have a good

answer

for you!

I know that with SOME supplements, the more deficient someone is

in

it, the more of a negative reaction they have at first. It's

sort

of

like when your eyes have been in the dark at a movie theater,

and

you

come out into the bright sunlight and the light is too strong at

first, making you squint. When our bodies are deficient in

something

(taurine, for example), the receptors are open wide searching

for

it

(just like our pupils in the movie theater) and thus take in too

much

of the supplement (or sunlight) when they finally get some. If

we

give only a tiny, tiny fraction of a dosage at first, sometimes

we

can tolerate that amount, and slowly build up to a regular

dosage

as

the receptors in the body close a little more in response to

getting

some of what they're craving. BUT, I don't know if this is true

for

folinc and/or TMG or not. It was very much true of my son with

taurine, and it was true of ME with biotin.

If the child couldn't tolerate the folinic and TMG because of

the

above explanation, then I would think that he/she was an

undermethylator (just guessing here). But if they couldn't

tolerate

it because they already have too much, then I guess they would

be

an

overmethylator (again, I'm just guessing).

What type of reactions does your child have to folinic and TMG?

Have

you tried opening up a capsule and giving only a tiny, tiny

fraction

of it? If so, did your child react the same way?

Sorry I don't have any definite answers for you! Hopefully Dr.

McCandless or someone else on the list will! If you've not

already

joined the sulfurstories list, that's another place to learn

more

about the sulfur chemistry of the body.

Janiece

[Guest guest]

,

Cormick takes lecithin daily also. I notice that he gets less focused if he

misses his lecithin for a couple days. Hopefully DMAE will be a good thing for

him also!!

Trudy

Re: DMAE (was TMG / Folinic: not doing well, any

thoughts?)

Berk,

DMAE is one of my daily supplements, along with lecithin. I really feel not up

to snuff

w/o my DMAE and lecithin, and notice if I miss for two days.

Berk Charlton wrote:

> DMAE is a supplement that we have recently starting using for our son,

> and noticed an instant benefit from it (also apparent to his school

> teacher and ABA instructors). There was less distractibility and more

> attention to required tasks. He did seem somewhat more easily agitated

> during the first week of using it.

>

> FWIW, I tried some DMAE on myself and everything I had to do seemed a

> little more interesting!

>

> BC

>

[Guest guest]

BC

We have been using 30mg/day of DMAE. I do see better focus and attention.

At home, he is fine. He is needing less help with homework and less direction

when doing things around the house. Following verbal directions seems easier.

Interaction with the family is improved.

But at school he is easily aggitated when the teacher works one-on-one with him.

He will actually refuse to do some tasks that were going fairly well before.

However, independent work at school is actually going better. Language is good

too.

I don't see any hyper-stimulation, so that's good. I'm hoping that the

aggitation goes away like it did with your son. It hasn't been a week yet since

we started the DMAE.

We will give it some more time before making a final judgement on DMAE. I hope

the teacher will hang in there a little while longer!

Trudy

Re: TMG / Folinic: not doing well, any

thoughts?

> Can someone help us out here. If a child cannot tolerate

folinic

or

>TMG,

> does that point to over or under methylation?

That's a good question, and I hope someone will have a good

answer

for you!

I know that with SOME supplements, the more deficient someone is

in

it, the more of a negative reaction they have at first. It's

sort

of

like when your eyes have been in the dark at a movie theater,

and

you

come out into the bright sunlight and the light is too strong at

first, making you squint. When our bodies are deficient in

something

(taurine, for example), the receptors are open wide searching

for

it

(just like our pupils in the movie theater) and thus take in too

much

of the supplement (or sunlight) when they finally get some. If

we

give only a tiny, tiny fraction of a dosage at first, sometimes

we

can tolerate that amount, and slowly build up to a regular

dosage

as

the receptors in the body close a little more in response to

getting

some of what they're craving. BUT, I don't know if this is true

for

folinc and/or TMG or not. It was very much true of my son with

taurine, and it was true of ME with biotin.

If the child couldn't tolerate the folinic and TMG because of

the

above explanation, then I would think that he/she was an

undermethylator (just guessing here). But if they couldn't

tolerate

it because they already have too much, then I guess they would

be

an

overmethylator (again, I'm just guessing).

What type of reactions does your child have to folinic and TMG?

Have

you tried opening up a capsule and giving only a tiny, tiny

fraction

of it? If so, did your child react the same way?

Sorry I don't have any definite answers for you! Hopefully Dr.

McCandless or someone else on the list will! If you've not

already

joined the sulfurstories list, that's another place to learn

more

about the sulfur chemistry of the body.

Janiece