Tracey/dental problems (teeth crowding) connected with breathing (and posture)

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Hi Tracey, We were talking about dental problems in late 2010 and you put me on to breathing. I found a study (see below) which discusses some earlier research about this in the 20s!!. (I do wish that at least one of the many dentists we have seen had mentioned this connection! I am surprised

about this was never mentioned to me as a lot of German medical and dental professionals are usually very into these holistic overviews.) I have spent all night researching this as we have continual issues here regarding jaw joints, extracted molars etc. I see also that on top of breathing, posture seems

to play an important role as the strong muscles affecting the jaw are influenced by posture. My daughter tends to slump as she does not want to appear so tall (5ft10) I think this is affecting her lower jaw and hence its restricted growth . I am going to do yoga with her to get her to breathe more profoundly and learn some myofascial techniques to work on her jaw muscles....I am VERY late in the game but hope springs eternal....see following study....The association between posture of the head and

malocclusion (teeth crowding) in Saudi subjectshttp://www.freepatentsonline.com/article/CRANIO-Journal-Craniomandibular-Practice/163678757.html<A relationship between malocclusion and neck posture was proposed

as early as 1926. In a study conducted by Schwartz (1) on the effect of

upper airway obstruction in children, he concluded that a relationship

exists between the inability to breathe properly and the development of

malocclusion. Subject: Re: Re: Is This why some of our kids do well on some food groups whilst others don'tTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Friday, 15 April, 2011, 11:13

hello,

I have completed gut clearing and supplements are continuing to be added under DAN protocol thru jean muscroft however the seizure profile for my son still although lessened continues to a great extent on adaily basis he is having the jerks, drops etc.It has been 5 yrs nowbut i feel this all did start at 1yr old after he had gone thru lots of invaccinations

.. One route i feel i need to take is to change from levetiracetam[kepra] to some other broad spec AED as you say however my intuition tells me i need to also take metals out also via the ac protocol. feels she needs to add in lots more supps to support methylation, sulphation etc first[we are at the methylation stage now] however is there any advice you can offer me in terms of timing the chelation. He is very prone to loading,had high pathogenic load back in september from stool tests[which i hope after the various attempts will be lessened now] he is also on the scd for last few months,

this helped him . However due to seizure activity i just want to go the safe and slow route for chelation, is that possible. Any advice will be gratefully received. thanks tahira

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Sent: Fri, 15 April, 2011 10:16:22Subject: Re: Is This why some of our kids do well on some food groups whilst others don't

It is useful for them to get a good eeg - sedated is fine - so they know what kind of seizure activity it is and can prescribe an AED that has a good chance of working instead of having to try half a dozen before they figure out what type of seizure it must be and can pick the right medication.If they can't do that then the broadest spectrum choices are lamotrigine and valproic acid. Both definitely have nice high side effect and risk profiles.Andywww.noamalgam.comwww.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.htmlwww.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.htmlwww.noamalgam.com/nourishinghope.html>> tracey, i was looking for adviceÂ

again. I was at the neurology appt > yesterday and they dd to have an eeg under sedation[last week they tried the > eeg but no success as he just pulled off any electrodes they manged to get > on] howevcer since kepra has not managed to control seizures they want to > try another drug lamotrigine or even another try at topomax which > previously caused lots of s/es at higher doses although did control > seizures better. but i feel he is going to go thru awful session of eeg > which he hates so not sure i should bother getting him sedated for this, > will

it  achieve much? dr wants to see the types seizures he is having on > 24hrs  to then target medication according to those seizures. i feel > unsure about it, whats your experience, is lamotrigine going to cause > myoclonic  crisis. i feel if it has a good s/e profile maybe is hould > go for this without doing the eeg again? thks tahira> > > >

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Being delivered by forceps, according to what I have been told by Henry's

osteopath, can lead to headaches as the child grows and to the need for

orthodontic treatment, because pressures retained after birth prevent proper

growth of the jaw - unless the retained moulding and pressure are treated in

time.

If it is also the case that the way the head is carried may have a bad effect on

development of the dentition, then I should think the Technique is the

obvious way to go, if the lessons can be obtained while the child is still very

young. However. I can't see that lessons, even though they may lead to improved

use of ther self and carriage of the head, can make any difference to the jaw

once it has grown.

I have noticed over the years how common it is for disabled adults to have

terrible dentition - a mouth full of teeth all out of place.

Margaret

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> > tracey, i was  looking for  advice 

> again.  I was  at the  neurology appt

> > yesterday and they dd to have  an eeg  under sedation[last week

they tried the 

> > eeg but no  success as  he  just pulled  off  any

electrodes  they manged to get

> > on] howevcer since  kepra  has  not managed to  control seizures

they  want  to

> > try  another drug  lamotrigine or  even  another try at 

topomax  which 

> > previously  caused  lots of  s/es at  higher  doses

although  did  control 

> > seizures  better. but i feel he is  going to  go thru  awful 

session of  eeg

> > which he  hates  so not  sure i should  bother getting him

sedated for this,

> > will

> it   achieve  much?  dr wants  to see the types 

seizures  he is  having on

> > 24hrs   to then  target  medication  according to 

those  seizures. i feel

> > unsure about it, whats  your  experience, is  lamotrigine going

to  cause 

> > myoclonic   crisis. i feel if it has  a  good  s/e 

profile  maybe  is hould 

> > go  for this  without  doing the  eeg again? thks  tahira

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Pub Med - PMID: 7937262 link to abstract of paper saying forceps delivery can

have consequences for later dental development.

M

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> > > tracey, i was  looking for  advice 

> > again.  I was  at the  neurology appt

> > > yesterday and they dd to have  an eeg  under sedation[last week

they tried the 

> > > eeg but no  success as  he  just pulled  off  any

electrodes  they manged to get

> > > on] howevcer since  kepra  has  not managed to  control

seizures they  want  to

> > > try  another drug  lamotrigine or  even  another try at 

topomax  which 

> > > previously  caused  lots of  s/es at  higher  doses

although  did  control 

> > > seizures  better. but i feel he is  going to  go thru 

awful  session of  eeg

> > > which he  hates  so not  sure i should  bother getting him

sedated for this,

> > > will

> > it   achieve  much?  dr wants  to see the types 

seizures  he is  having on

> > > 24hrs   to then  target  medication  according to 

those  seizures. i feel

> > > unsure about it, whats  your  experience, is  lamotrigine going

to  cause 

> > > myoclonic   crisis. i feel if it has  a  good  s/e 

profile  maybe  is hould 

> > > go  for this  without  doing the  eeg again? thks  tahira

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear I have seen this in a little boy we used to look after most weekends.. He had a malformed jaw and very high palate.. His abnormal posturing of his neck was due to him having to fight to maintain an airway with this irregular mouth shape... He too could not sit up straight and could not run in a straight line either.. he had a very short attention span and snored enough to lift the roof of the house.. He was always tired and had dark rings under his eyes.. He struggled at school .

When this sort of problem exists.. the body cannot use the tongue properly either... normal breathing and tongue movements are fundamental to coaxing the jaw into the optimum shape.. unfortunately the conventional dental approach of removing teeth makes it harder for the jaw to adapt and as a result the smaller than optimum mouth impacts on the jaw, neck and lower back.

People with weak diaphragms cannot stand up properly either.. the dowager's hump is sourced from a very weak diaphragm.. then weak breathing and weakened muscles in the torso... and so the body hunches over.. If you look on 's website..www.advancecentres.com. you will see a lot of before and after pictures... most of the before pictures show slumped sitting position and heads and necks held at a stretched angle... 

All is not lost.. We only began our journey with ~Tash when she was 16 and her teeth have begun to improve and her posture now is amazing.. she is so strong and has so much energy.. and I think that with her improved breathing everything else is coming into line.. She woke on Saturday morning with a splitting headache and pains down her back and saying that she felt like she was in a fish bowl looking out with no purpose.. This seemed alarming especially as she said she had lost her creativity..... In herself she looked different so I sensed it was a new step on her recovery..... She has always had a brain imbalance having more activity linked with the creative side and rather less in the more reasoned side.which as caused massive stress for her as she has not been able to make sense of things especially if they go wrong.. leading to a spiral of building anxiety and guilt.... In this last week she has started using the other side of her brain too.. so that she can make sense of things and is reporting being much calmer and being able to make sense of things in a more detached way.... So this is a big step forward once again.

I think now that she has good oxygen levels to her brain all day and especially at night, the parts of her brain which could not get consistent good levels of oxygen ,due to insufficient to go around and the body having to ration it to core parts only, are not beginning to  get more constant blood and oxygen flow and are " waking up " ..

I really feel that this explains a lot about the loss of function in autism and in the regression.. it is like circuits in the brain being shut down to preserve the core.. and they can only be reopened when there is sufficient bloodflow and oxygen to open them up.... 

Yoga may help with posture... however from our experience until the diaphragm is strengthened at a micro circulation level and the other reflexes are re-established, the ability to stand tall and breathe normally cannot happen. 

Best WishesTracey

 

Hi Tracey, We were talking about dental problems in late 2010 and you put me on to breathing. I found a study (see below) which discusses some earlier research about this in the 20s!!. (I do wish that at least one of the many dentists we have seen had mentioned this connection! I am surprised

about this was never mentioned to me as a lot of German medical and dental professionals are usually very into these holistic overviews.) I have spent all night researching this as we have continual issues here regarding jaw joints, extracted molars etc. I see also that on top of breathing, posture seems

to play an important role as the strong muscles affecting the jaw are influenced by posture. My daughter tends to slump as she does not want to appear so tall (5ft10) I think this is affecting her lower jaw and hence its restricted growth . I am going to do yoga with her to get her to breathe more profoundly and learn some myofascial techniques to work on her jaw muscles....I am VERY late in the game but hope springs eternal....see following study....The association between posture of the head and

malocclusion (teeth crowding)  in Saudi subjectshttp://www.freepatentsonline.com/article/CRANIO-Journal-Craniomandibular-Practice/163678757.html

<A relationship between malocclusion and neck posture was proposed

as early as 1926. In a study conducted by Schwartz (1) on the effect of

upper airway obstruction in children, he concluded that a relationship

exists between the inability to breathe properly and the development of

malocclusion.

>> tracey, i was  looking for  advice 

again.  I was  at the  neurology appt > yesterday and they dd to have  an eeg  under sedation[last week they tried the  > eeg but no  success as  he  just pulled  off  any electrodes  they manged to get

> on] howevcer since  kepra  has  not managed to  control seizures they  want  to > try  another drug  lamotrigine or  even  another try at  topomax  which  > previously  caused  lots of  s/es at  higher  doses although  did  control 

> seizures  better. but i feel he is  going to  go thru  awful  session of  eeg > which he  hates  so not  sure i should  bother getting him sedated for this, > will

it   achieve  much?  dr wants  to see the types  seizures  he is  having on > 24hrs   to then  target  medication  according to  those  seizures. i feel > unsure about it, whats  your  experience, is  lamotrigine going to  cause 

> myoclonic   crisis. i feel if it has  a  good  s/e  profile  maybe  is hould  > go  for this  without  doing the  eeg again? thks  tahira> > > >

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I do think that improved oxygenation will change a lot for the better. It increases the PH level for one thing and that will help in the end with depriving pathogens of the will to live:-)) My German physician is always telling me that bugs and cancer love an oxygen-deprived environment. (Blue skin mottling/marbling he told me, someting I used to get lot of, indicates low oxygenation...) I don't usually quote doctors but he does a lot of testing of patients including with urine PH sticks so I am inclined to take him seriously. I've done the same PH testing and my blue skin mottling happened when the PH sticks showed lower values (turning reddish instead of bluish.)Jx

>> tracey, i was looking for adviceÂ

again. I was at the neurology appt > yesterday and they dd to have an eeg under sedation[last week they tried the > eeg but no success as he just pulled off any electrodes they manged to get

> on] howevcer since kepra has not managed to control seizures they want to > try another drug lamotrigine or even another try at topomax which > previously caused lots of s/es at higher doses although did controlÂ

> seizures better. but i feel he is going to go thru awful session of eeg > which he hates so not sure i should bother getting him sedated for this, > will

it  achieve much? dr wants to see the types seizures he is having on > 24hrs  to then target medication according to those seizures. i feel > unsure about it, whats your experience, is lamotrigine going to causeÂ

> myoclonic  crisis. i feel if it has a good s/e profile maybe is hould > go for this without doing the eeg again? thks tahira> > > >