Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 This from Dr. re our thread on iodine and hypothyroidism: The thymus gland adds iodine to tyrosine (an amino acid) to make the thyroid hormones, which regulates metabolism and growth of nearly all tissues. Iodine deficiency is the LEADING cause of mental retardation worldwide, accounting for an estimated 40 million cases, with many more mildly affected. It is believed to be much less common in the US, due to the use of iodinized salt; however, NHANES data from the 1970's vs the 1990's show that the average level of iodine in the US is now half of what it was in the 1970's, presumably due to decreased use of iodinized salt (many fastfood manufacturers use non-iodinized salt, so that is not a useful form). Similarly, a recent study in Scotland of 400 pregnant women found that 40% were consuming less that half of the RDA of iodine. So, I think iodine deficiency still widely exists, and is growing due the apparent decreased use of iodinized salt. The damage due to iodine deficiency is generally believed to be life-long, although I hope that is not true. Our hair study found that children with autism (n=51) vs gender and age-matched controls (n=40), all from greater Phoenix, found that the children with autism had 45% lower levels of iodine in their hair, p=0.005 (highly significant). It is not known if hair is or is not a valid indicator for iodine levels. We are now doing a large study of baby hair,which will examine the level of iodine and many other metals. If that again shows iodine abnormalities, we will try to find funding to do thyroid and iodine evaluations. Based on our preliminary data, I suspect that low iodine may be one of the major causes of mental retardation in autism. Re. the level of iodine, it is true that high levels of iodine can decrease thryoid function. However, according to Murray's Encyclopedia of Nutritional Supplments, short term dosages of 1500 mcg to 250,000 mcg reduces thyroid hormone secretion. In people with reduced thyroid function, as little as 750 mcg may cause this effect. So, I would go with the recommended RDA, which is 90 mcg for a 4-8 yr old, and 150 mcg for an adult. Many children's supplements now contain iodine, but most of the DAN multivitamin/mineral supplements do not - I have encouraged them to consider including iodine at RDA levels. I am not very familiar with the iodine patch test, but I would rather use a standard test for it. B. Professor Chemical and Materials Engineering Arizona State University PO Box 876006 Tempe, AZ 85287-6006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Good question: I referred it to the expert (Dr. ) Info on Iodine/Hypothyroidism per Dr. Adamd This from Dr. re our thread on iodine and hypothyroidism: The thymus gland adds iodine to tyrosine (an amino acid) to make the thyroid hormones, which regulates metabolism and growth of nearly all tissues. Iodine deficiency is the LEADING cause of mental retardation worldwide, accounting for an estimated 40 million cases, with many more mildly affected. It is believed to be much less common in the US, due to the use of iodinized salt; however, NHANES data from the 1970's vs the 1990's show that the average level of iodine in the US is now half of what it was in the 1970's, presumably due to decreased use of iodinized salt (many fastfood manufacturers use non-iodinized salt, so that is not a useful form). Similarly, a recent study in Scotland of 400 pregnant women found that 40% were consuming less that half of the RDA of iodine. So, I think iodine deficiency still widely exists, and is growing due the apparent decreased use of iodinized salt. The damage due to iodine deficiency is generally believed to be life-long, although I hope that is not true. Our hair study found that children with autism (n=51) vs gender and age-matched controls (n=40), all from greater Phoenix, found that the children with autism had 45% lower levels of iodine in their hair, p=0.005 (highly significant). It is not known if hair is or is not a valid indicator for iodine levels. We are now doing a large study of baby hair,which will examine the level of iodine and many other metals. If that again shows iodine abnormalities, we will try to find funding to do thyroid and iodine evaluations. Based on our preliminary data, I suspect that low iodine may be one of the major causes of mental retardation in autism. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Here's the expert: (Dr. ) Good question. We do not know what low level of iodine in hair correlates with; it could mean limited excretion or too low a level. All it tells us is that something is wrong with either iodine levels and/or thyroid function. That is why other tests of iodine are needed. However, since we know mental retardation is common in autism, and since we know that low iodine is the leading cause of mental retardation, I think it is very likely that iodine is low. Obviously some clinical tests of iodine levels, and/or a research study, is needed. B. Professor Chemical and Materials Engineering Arizona State University PO Box 876006 Tempe, AZ 85287-6006 Another iodine question Hi, Jim: Thanks so much for your informative post on the iodine issue. A list member is asking this question, and I said I'd refer it to the expert (you): Jaquelyn Hi, I may be displaying my lack of medical knowledge here, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have a question about the assumption that lower levels or iodine in the hair mean lower levels in the body. Why is it that lower levels of metals in the hair can mean that the levels in the body are high but the child's system is not removing them correctly, but lower levels of iodine in the hair indicate that there may be low levels in the body as well (per my understanding of what I read below)? Could it be possible that, just as with metals, there are actually *high* levels of iodine in the body but the children are not excreting them correctly?? Thanks! Info on Iodine/Hypothyroidism per Dr. Adamd This from Dr. re our thread on iodine and hypothyroidism: The thymus gland adds iodine to tyrosine (an amino acid) to make the thyroid hormones, which regulates metabolism and growth of nearly all tissues. Iodine deficiency is the LEADING cause of mental retardation worldwide, accounting for an estimated 40 million cases, with many more mildly affected. It is believed to be much less common in the US, due to the use of iodinized salt; however, NHANES data from the 1970's vs the 1990's show that the average level of iodine in the US is now half of what it was in the 1970's, presumably due to decreased use of iodinized salt (many fastfood manufacturers use non-iodinized salt, so that is not a useful form). Similarly, a recent study in Scotland of 400 pregnant women found that 40% were consuming less that half of the RDA of iodine. So, I think iodine deficiency still widely exists, and is growing due the apparent decreased use of iodinized salt. The damage due to iodine deficiency is generally believed to be life-long, although I hope that is not true. Our hair study found that children with autism (n=51) vs gender and age-matched controls (n=40), all from greater Phoenix, found that the children with autism had 45% lower levels of iodine in their hair, p=0.005 (highly significant). It is not known if hair is or is not a valid indicator for iodine levels. We are now doing a large study of baby hair,which will examine the level of iodine and many other metals. If that again shows iodine abnormalities, we will try to find funding to do thyroid and iodine evaluations. Based on our preliminary data, I suspect that low iodine may be one of the major causes of mental retardation in autism. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Hi, I may be displaying my lack of medical knowledge here, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I have a question about the assumption that lower levels or iodine in the hair mean lower levels in the body. Why is it that lower levels of metals in the hair can mean that the levels in the body are high but the child's system is not removing them correctly, but lower levels of iodine in the hair indicate that there may be low levels in the body as well (per my understanding of what I read below)? Could it be possible that, just as with metals, there are actually *high* levels of iodine in the body but the children are not excreting them correctly?? Thanks! Inna Nill Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:28:25 -0600 Subject: Info on Iodine/Hypothyroidism per Dr. Adamd This from Dr. re our thread on iodine and hypothyroidism: The thymus gland adds iodine to tyrosine (an amino acid) to make the thyroid hormones, which regulates metabolism and growth of nearly all tissues. Iodine deficiency is the LEADING cause of mental retardation worldwide, accounting for an estimated 40 million cases, with many more mildly affected. It is believed to be much less common in the US, due to the use of iodinized salt; however, NHANES data from the 1970's vs the 1990's show that the average level of iodine in the US is now half of what it was in the 1970's, presumably due to decreased use of iodinized salt (many fastfood manufacturers use non-iodinized salt, so that is not a useful form). Similarly, a recent study in Scotland of 400 pregnant women found that 40% were consuming less that half of the RDA of iodine. So, I think iodine deficiency still widely exists, and is growing due the apparent decreased use of iodinized salt. The damage due to iodine deficiency is generally believed to be life-long, although I hope that is not true. Our hair study found that children with autism (n=51) vs gender and age-matched controls (n=40), all from greater Phoenix, found that the children with autism had 45% lower levels of iodine in their hair, p=0.005 (highly significant). It is not known if hair is or is not a valid indicator for iodine levels. We are now doing a large study of baby hair,which will examine the level of iodine and many other metals. If that again shows iodine abnormalities, we will try to find funding to do thyroid and iodine evaluations. Based on our preliminary data, I suspect that low iodine may be one of the major causes of mental retardation in autism. <snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 A throid panel consists of T3, T4, and TSH (Thyroid Stimulating Hormone). An amino acid panel is a blood test checking the levels of either 20 or 40 amino acids in your body. Immunosciences has many panels: I have devised the McCandless panel with many markers, none for thyroid or amino acids, mostly immune and viral testing. I'll try to get it on the list. Jaquelyn Info on Iodine/Hypothyroidism per Dr. Adamd This from Dr. re our thread on iodine and hypothyroidism: The thymus gland adds iodine to tyrosine (an amino acid) to make the thyroid hormones, which regulates metabolism and growth of nearly all tissues. Iodine deficiency is the LEADING cause of mental retardation worldwide, accounting for an estimated 40 million cases, with many more mildly affected. It is believed to be much less common in the US, due to the use of iodinized salt; however, NHANES data from the 1970's vs the 1990's show that the average level of iodine in the US is now half of what it was in the 1970's, presumably due to decreased use of iodinized salt (many fastfood manufacturers use non-iodinized salt, so that is not a useful form). Similarly, a recent study in Scotland of 400 pregnant women found that 40% were consuming less that half of the RDA of iodine. So, I think iodine deficiency still widely exists, and is growing due the apparent decreased use of iodinized salt. The damage due to iodine deficiency is generally believed to be life-long, although I hope that is not true. Our hair study found that children with autism (n=51) vs gender and age-matched controls (n=40), all from greater Phoenix, found that the children with autism had 45% lower levels of iodine in their hair, p=0.005 (highly significant). It is not known if hair is or is not a valid indicator for iodine levels. We are now doing a large study of baby hair,which will examine the level of iodine and many other metals. If that again shows iodine abnormalities, we will try to find funding to do thyroid and iodine evaluations. Based on our preliminary data, I suspect that low iodine may be one of the major causes of mental retardation in autism. Re. the level of iodine, it is true that high levels of iodine can decrease thryoid function. However, according to Murray's Encyclopedia of Nutritional Supplments, short term dosages of 1500 mcg to 250,000 mcg reduces thyroid hormone secretion. In people with reduced thyroid function, as little as 750 mcg may cause this effect. So, I would go with the recommended RDA, which is 90 mcg for a 4-8 yr old, and 150 mcg for an adult. Many children's supplements now contain iodine, but most of the DAN multivitamin/mineral supplements do not - I have encouraged them to consider including iodine at RDA levels. I am not very familiar with the iodine patch test, but I would rather use a standard test for it. B. Professor Chemical and Materials Engineering Arizona State University PO Box 876006 Tempe, AZ 85287-6006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 : Please send me a private e-mail if you want a copy of the McCandless Panel at Immunosciences; I can't get it on the list (doesn't take attachments). I'll have to ask parents to tell you what form of Iodine should be used; I don't know. For hypothyroidism I treat with " natural " porcine thyroid. Jaquelyn Info on Iodine/Hypothyroidism per Dr. Adamd This from Dr. re our thread on iodine and hypothyroidism: The thymus gland adds iodine to tyrosine (an amino acid) to make the thyroid hormones, which regulates metabolism and growth of nearly all tissues. Iodine deficiency is the LEADING cause of mental retardation worldwide, accounting for an estimated 40 million cases, with many more mildly affected. It is believed to be much less common in the US, due to the use of iodinized salt; however, NHANES data from the 1970's vs the 1990's show that the average level of iodine in the US is now half of what it was in the 1970's, presumably due to decreased use of iodinized salt (many fastfood manufacturers use non-iodinized salt, so that is not a useful form). Similarly, a recent study in Scotland of 400 pregnant women found that 40% were consuming less that half of the RDA of iodine. So, I think iodine deficiency still widely exists, and is growing due the apparent decreased use of iodinized salt. The damage due to iodine deficiency is generally believed to be life-long, although I hope that is not true. Our hair study found that children with autism (n=51) vs gender and age-matched controls (n=40), all from greater Phoenix, found that the children with autism had 45% lower levels of iodine in their hair, p=0.005 (highly significant). It is not known if hair is or is not a valid indicator for iodine levels. We are now doing a large study of baby hair,which will examine the level of iodine and many other metals. If that again shows iodine abnormalities, we will try to find funding to do thyroid and iodine evaluations. Based on our preliminary data, I suspect that low iodine may be one of the major causes of mental retardation in autism. Re. the level of iodine, it is true that high levels of iodine can decrease thryoid function. However, according to Murray's Encyclopedia of Nutritional Supplments, short term dosages of 1500 mcg to 250,000 mcg reduces thyroid hormone secretion. In people with reduced thyroid function, as little as 750 mcg may cause this effect. So, I would go with the recommended RDA, which is 90 mcg for a 4-8 yr old, and 150 mcg for an adult. Many children's supplements now contain iodine, but most of the DAN multivitamin/mineral supplements do not - I have encouraged them to consider including iodine at RDA levels. I am not very familiar with the iodine patch test, but I would rather use a standard test for it. B. Professor Chemical and Materials Engineering Arizona State University PO Box 876006 Tempe, AZ 85287-6006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2003 Report Share Posted December 17, 2003 Very informative, So, if patch testing indicates low iodine, what form of Iodine should be used for the 90 mcg mentioned? Also, what is the difference between a Thyroid Panel, Amino Acid Panel, and the Immunosciences Panel? JL Info on Iodine/Hypothyroidism per Dr. Adamd This from Dr. re our thread on iodine and hypothyroidism: The thymus gland adds iodine to tyrosine (an amino acid) to make the thyroid hormones, which regulates metabolism and growth of nearly all tissues. Iodine deficiency is the LEADING cause of mental retardation worldwide, accounting for an estimated 40 million cases, with many more mildly affected. It is believed to be much less common in the US, due to the use of iodinized salt; however, NHANES data from the 1970's vs the 1990's show that the average level of iodine in the US is now half of what it was in the 1970's, presumably due to decreased use of iodinized salt (many fastfood manufacturers use non-iodinized salt, so that is not a useful form). Similarly, a recent study in Scotland of 400 pregnant women found that 40% were consuming less that half of the RDA of iodine. So, I think iodine deficiency still widely exists, and is growing due the apparent decreased use of iodinized salt. The damage due to iodine deficiency is generally believed to be life-long, although I hope that is not true. Our hair study found that children with autism (n=51) vs gender and age-matched controls (n=40), all from greater Phoenix, found that the children with autism had 45% lower levels of iodine in their hair, p=0.005 (highly significant). It is not known if hair is or is not a valid indicator for iodine levels. We are now doing a large study of baby hair,which will examine the level of iodine and many other metals. If that again shows iodine abnormalities, we will try to find funding to do thyroid and iodine evaluations. Based on our preliminary data, I suspect that low iodine may be one of the major causes of mental retardation in autism. Re. the level of iodine, it is true that high levels of iodine can decrease thryoid function. However, according to Murray's Encyclopedia of Nutritional Supplments, short term dosages of 1500 mcg to 250,000 mcg reduces thyroid hormone secretion. In people with reduced thyroid function, as little as 750 mcg may cause this effect. So, I would go with the recommended RDA, which is 90 mcg for a 4-8 yr old, and 150 mcg for an adult. Many children's supplements now contain iodine, but most of the DAN multivitamin/mineral supplements do not - I have encouraged them to consider including iodine at RDA levels. I am not very familiar with the iodine patch test, but I would rather use a standard test for it. B. Professor Chemical and Materials Engineering Arizona State University PO Box 876006 Tempe, AZ 85287-6006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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