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In a message dated 12/5/03 8:15:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kfkronenberg@... writes:

> 1. Does anyone know what Cymbaldrüsen are? The context is tumors of the

> auditory canal. There's nothing in Bunjes, Reuter, or Google. - cymba

> conchae auriculae is part of the auricle (see Dorland's). Cymbaldrüsen are

glands

> in this area

>

> 2. Here is the title of a paper: " Mortalitaetsstudie bei

> Chemiefacharbeitern verschiedener Produktionsbetriebe mit Exposition auch

> gegenüber Acrylnitril " -- To me that " auch " implies co-exposure; however,

> the abstract on PubMed leaves it out and simply translates it as " exposure

" auch " in this context means " in particular "

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You'll find some 'Zymbaldrüse(n),

HIH,

Hennie

Cymbaldrüsen and " auch "

Hi all,

1. Does anyone know what Cymbaldrüsen are? The context is tumors of the

auditory canal. There's nothing in Bunjes, Reuter, or Google.

2. Here is the title of a paper: " Mortalitaetsstudie bei

Chemiefacharbeitern verschiedener Produktionsbetriebe mit Exposition auch

gegenüber Acrylnitril " -- To me that " auch " implies co-exposure; however,

the abstract on PubMed leaves it out and simply translates it as " exposure. "

Does anyone have an opinion on this? My tendency, given the subject matter,

is to assume that this is for some sort of legal purpose in which case an

exact translation is required (not just copying PubMed). But have I gotten

the " auch " right?

All the best,

Ken

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Thanks to all those who suggested Zymbaldruese, although this was also a

dead end. However, I did try " tympanic gland " and came up with the

following definition through the Medical Dictionary Search Engine: " One of

the mucous glands in the mucosa of the tympanic cavity. "

http://www.books.md/index.html

I'm pretty sure that's it.

Any ideas about " auch " ?

Ken

At 08:42 AM 12/5/2003, you wrote:

>Zymbal gland - with a " z " ?

>HTH,

>Alison

>

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Hi Ken:

----- Original Message -----

" auch " in this context means " in particular "

-----

I agree with on the " auch "

Regarding Cymaldruesen - all I can find in Dorland's is:

cymb(o)- - boat-shaped, scaphoid

cymba [Greek: boat] - a boat-shaped structure

c. conchchae auriculae - the upper part of the concha of the auricle

Perhaps, there is a gland opening into the concha?

HTH, Ursula

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Hi Ken:

don't know if this is of any help, but I found the following in my

'Lehrbuch der Toxikologie' in the chaptor on 'Benzol':

Table 4 on p.373 lists " Tumoren in Organen und Druesen von Ratte und Maus,

die auf langfristige Aufnahme von Benzol zurueckgefuert werden " .

Top of the list:

" Ohr/Zymalsche Druese "

Ursula

Re: Cymbaldrüsen and " auch "

Thanks to all those who suggested Zymbaldruese, although this was also a

dead end. However, I did try " tympanic gland " and came up with the

following definition through the Medical Dictionary Search Engine: " One of

the mucous glands in the mucosa of the tympanic cavity. "

http://www.books.md/index.html

I'm pretty sure that's it.

Any ideas about " auch " ?

Ken

At 08:42 AM 12/5/2003, you wrote:

>Zymbal gland - with a " z " ?

>HTH,

>Alison

>

>

>

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Ken, the tympanic gland is also called *tympanic body, jugular glomus,

jugulartympanic body*. Dorland's also lists *glomus jugular tumor*

Ursula

----- Original Message -----

I did try " tympanic gland " and came up with the

following definition through the Medical Dictionary Search Engine: " One of

the mucous glands in the mucosa of the tympanic cavity. "

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AFAIK tympanic gland is correct.

Regarding " auch " , it means " also with " or " even with " ... this would mean that

there has to be something besides acrylic nitrile involved, doesn't it. Was

another substance dealt with previously? That's where I'd usually expect " auch "

.... to point out that there is previous information on other substances.

Elgin

Re: Cymbaldrüsen and " auch "

Thanks to all those who suggested Zymbaldruese, although this was also a

dead end. However, I did try " tympanic gland " and came up with the

following definition through the Medical Dictionary Search Engine: " One of

the mucous glands in the mucosa of the tympanic cavity. "

http://www.books.md/index.html

I'm pretty sure that's it.

Any ideas about " auch " ?

Ken

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If it sounds like French, these are the Zymbal glands (salivary glands) in

rats. In French : " glandes de Zymbal "

Hope it helps

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>

>

> Thanks to all those who suggested Zymbaldruese, although this was also a

> dead end. However, I did try " tympanic gland " and came up with the

> following definition through the Medical Dictionary Search Engine: " One of

> the mucous glands in the mucosa of the tympanic cavity. "

>

> http://www.books.md/index.html

>

> I'm pretty sure that's it.

>

> Any ideas about " auch " ?

>

> Ken

>

> At 08:42 AM 12/5/2003, you wrote:

> >Zymbal gland - with a " z " ?

> >HTH,

> >Alison

> >

> >

> >

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Golly, this is all very helpful. I guess I'll have to flag the word and

note the possibilities. And thanks for the help with " auch, " and Ursula.

Ken

At 10:48 AM 12/5/2003, you wrote:

>If it sounds like French, these are the Zymbal glands (salivary glands) in

>rats. In French : " glandes de Zymbal "

>Hope it helps

> Re: Cymbaldrüsen and " auch "

> >

> >

> > Thanks to all those who suggested Zymbaldruese, although this was also a

> > dead end. However, I did try " tympanic gland " and came up with the

> > following definition through the Medical Dictionary Search Engine: " One of

> > the mucous glands in the mucosa of the tympanic cavity. "

> >

> > <http://www.books.md/index.html>http://www.books.md/index.html

> >

> > I'm pretty sure that's it.

> >

> > Any ideas about " auch " ?

> >

> > Ken

> >

> > At 08:42 AM 12/5/2003, you wrote:

> > >Zymbal gland - with a " z " ?

> > >HTH,

> > >Alison

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Thanks, . Interestingly there seems to be only one Google hit for

this (I assume that's what you did); the other hit was headed " Beckham

Barcelona. " I haven't followed that one up. Cymbal gland is one more

thing I can put in my note.

Again thanks!

Ken

At 11:47 AM 12/5/2003, you wrote:

>Zymbaldrüsen seem to be glands in animals. I found " cymbal gland tumors " as a

>toxic effect of vinyl chloride.

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