Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 ----- Hi Tom! Congrats on your speedy recovery and continued health. Where abouts do you live? My hubby had the same thing........and our hospital was only one of a few I learned that does off pump. My husband had the Heart attack.....I drove him the hour to the hospital as we thought it was nothing serious.....dumb......I'll know better next time..... However...my hubby had the emergency surgery @ 7 am and was in recovery by 11 am......and spent the night and went hime at noon the following day. To say I was dumbfounded is an understatement.....but...the surgeon said he was fine, and better to be home with "friendly bugs' than face the ones there...so I was very grateful for that. Anyway.....you are the only other person I know who went home so fast:-) My hubby had a single also......altho I do not know if that really means any less pain from the entire ordeal. His one year anniversary is coming up the end of April, and so far so good. He just turned 57 and has the energy of a healthy 30 year old. He was tiring alot in the year before the H.A. Anyway......... my hubby was given a med to stop coagulation,...can't think of the name of it....and he was put on niaspan, because he nor his family can tolorate statins. After a month or so, he went off the one med..and has stayed on the niacin, and is now trying policosanol. I feel real lucky that the doc was agreeable to have him on less meds. He does take supplements tho......and.....he kicked his tobacco habit many years ago. He now tried to do the treadmill faithfully at least 3 times a week. (45 minutes on a 3% grade @ almost 4mph.) I try to encourage him in relaxation, stuff like that.......cuz his mind goes fast....he is already planning his every move for next week. Anyway........hang in there........and much luck to you........ you will find much knowledge here and at the other group, supplements for a healthy heart. If your hospital offers a rehab program...by all means go....it was the best thing my hubby ever did for himself. Jill Hi All, I had open heart surgery lasy week ( single bypass, mammary to LAD, off pump), spent a total of 54 hours in the hospital ( from the time I entered the building to the time I was wheeled out). Saw the surgeon today for a follow up and he says everything looks great.The cardiologist put me on lipitor about a week before surgery and also says a beta blocker might be a good idea.I', taking the lipitor,but would like to avoid all this crap quite frankly. I quit smoking 10 weeks ago, am watching my diet, as soon as I am able I will be doing more aggressive excercises, etc. now can someone recommend a place to go for information on alternatives to the lipitor and beta blockers????? Thank you in advanceTom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2005 Report Share Posted March 31, 2005 Hi Jillie, Thank you for your reply and your husband and I seem to have something in common especially from the thinking and planning ahead standpoint! I'm just confused over the beta blocker suggestion. I definitely don't have high blood pressure ( I average 110/70 most of the time), pulse is at about 85. But I'll hear him out as to why, the reasons etc assuming he gives them to me and then tell him I need to think about it. Rgrds Tom > > ----- Hi Tom! Congrats on your speedy recovery and continued health. > Where abouts do you live? My hubby had the same thing........and our hospital was only one of a few I learned that does off pump. My husband had the Heart attack.....I drove him the hour to the hospital as we thought it was nothing serious.....dumb......I'll know better next time..... > However...my hubby had the emergency surgery @ 7 am and was in recovery by 11 am......and spent the night and went hime at noon the following day. To say I was dumbfounded is an understatement.....but...the surgeon said he was fine, and better to be home with " friendly bugs' than face the ones there...so I was very grateful for that. > Anyway.....you are the only other person I know who went home so fast:-) My hubby had a single also......altho I do not know if that really means any less pain from the entire ordeal. > His one year anniversary is coming up the end of April, and so far so good. He just turned 57 and has the energy of a healthy 30 year old. He was tiring alot in the year before the H.A. > Anyway......... > my hubby was given a med to stop coagulation,...can't think of the name of it....and he was put on niaspan, because he nor his family can tolorate statins. After a month or so, he went off the one med..and has stayed on the niacin, and is now trying policosanol. I feel real lucky that the doc was agreeable to have him on less meds. He does take supplements tho......and.....he kicked his tobacco habit many years ago. He now tried to do the treadmill faithfully at least 3 times a week. (45 minutes on a 3% grade @ almost 4mph.) > I try to encourage him in relaxation, stuff like that.......cuz his mind goes fast....he is already planning his every move for next week. > Anyway........hang in there........and much luck to you........ > you will find much knowledge here and at the other group, supplements for a healthy heart. > If your hospital offers a rehab program...by all means go....it was the best thing my hubby ever did for himself. > Jill > > > > > Hi All, > > I had open heart surgery lasy week ( single bypass, mammary to LAD, off > pump), spent a total of 54 hours in the hospital ( from the time I > entered the building to the time I was wheeled out). Saw the surgeon > today for a follow up and he says everything looks great. > > The cardiologist put me on lipitor about a week before surgery and also > says a beta blocker might be a good idea. > > I', taking the lipitor,but would like to avoid all this crap quite > frankly. I quit smoking 10 weeks ago, am watching my diet, as soon as I > am able I will be doing more aggressive excercises, etc. now can > someone recommend a place to go for information on alternatives to the > lipitor and beta blockers????? > > Thank you in advance > Tom > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 I've had a stent put in, was put on statins and hadbad reactions from high doses, 20mg Lipitor, then ayear later 10 mg Crestor. My cardiologist has filed anadverse reaction report, at least he said he was. Healso recommends Bisoprolol Fumarate, it lowers andstabilises the pulse. You are so lucky to have a Dr that cares ! My Dr got in my face and denied that my damage was caused by the statins ! Of course I picked the wrong Dr, his field has been in research , and he is owned by the drug companies ! Les . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Leigh, Thank you. What is CoQ10, where to get it, where to find more info etc? Lipitor is a statin right? Rgrds Tom > > re: I'm just confused over the beta blocker suggestion. I definitely > don't have high blood pressure ( I average 110/70 most of the time), > pulse is at about 85. > > Info from the Texas Heart Institute: > http://www.tmc.edu/thi/betameds.html > > Why do I need to take a beta-blocker? > > Beta-blockers are used to treat high blood pressure (hypertension), > congestive heart failure (CHF), abnormal heart rhythms > (arrhythmias), and chest pain (angina). Beta-blockers are sometimes > used in heart attack patients to prevent future heart attacks. > > > Info from Heart Center Online: > http://www.heartcenteronline.com/myheartdr/common/artprn_rev.cfm? > filename= & ARTID=604 > > Conditions of concern with statins > > Patients should discuss with their physician the benefits and risks > of taking statins if they have any of the following (one of which is > the situation below): > > * Recent major surgery (e.g. open-heart surgery) or trauma > * Low blood pressure (hypotension) > > (About the only benefit of statins) Recent studies suggest that > statins have a mild anti-inflammatory action and may reduce blood > levels of C-reactive protein, an indicator of inflammation in the > body. > > Tom, > > From the info above, I can understand why the Dr MIGHT prescribe a > beta blocker. Statins are another story. There are nutritional > supplements that are anti-inflammatory. Omega 3 (fish oil) is one of > the best. Start with 2,000 mg and gradually increase. The B vitamins > are very important too, especially B6, B12 and folic acid. Cinnamon > lowers triglycerides and LDL. > > If you decide to take a statin, make sure you take CoQ10. Statins > deplete this essential nutrient. > > Leigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Wow, thank you Rgrds Tom > > > > re: I'm just confused over the beta blocker suggestion. I > definitely > > don't have high blood pressure ( I average 110/70 most of the > time), > > pulse is at about 85. > > > > Info from the Texas Heart Institute: > > http://www.tmc.edu/thi/betameds.html > > > > Why do I need to take a beta-blocker? > > > > Beta-blockers are used to treat high blood pressure > (hypertension), > > congestive heart failure (CHF), abnormal heart rhythms > > (arrhythmias), and chest pain (angina). Beta-blockers are > sometimes > > used in heart attack patients to prevent future heart attacks. > > > > > > Info from Heart Center Online: > > http://www.heartcenteronline.com/myheartdr/common/artprn_rev.cfm? > > filename= & ARTID=604 > > > > Conditions of concern with statins > > > > Patients should discuss with their physician the benefits and > risks > > of taking statins if they have any of the following (one of which > is > > the situation below): > > > > * Recent major surgery (e.g. open-heart surgery) or trauma > > * Low blood pressure (hypotension) > > > > (About the only benefit of statins) Recent studies suggest that > > statins have a mild anti-inflammatory action and may reduce blood > > levels of C-reactive protein, an indicator of inflammation in the > > body. > > > > Tom, > > > > From the info above, I can understand why the Dr MIGHT prescribe a > > beta blocker. Statins are another story. There are nutritional > > supplements that are anti-inflammatory. Omega 3 (fish oil) is one > of > > the best. Start with 2,000 mg and gradually increase. The B > vitamins > > are very important too, especially B6, B12 and folic acid. > Cinnamon > > lowers triglycerides and LDL. > > > > If you decide to take a statin, make sure you take CoQ10. Statins > > deplete this essential nutrient. > > > > Leigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2005 Report Share Posted April 1, 2005 Oh Hey Jillie, I just turned 50, am usually quite active although my business doesn't require it and I live in SW Florida Rgrds Tom > > > > ----- Hi Tom! Congrats on your speedy recovery and continued > health. > > Where abouts do you live? My hubby had the same thing........and > our hospital was only one of a few I learned that does off pump. My > husband had the Heart attack.....I drove him the hour to the > hospital as we thought it was nothing serious.....dumb......I'll > know better next time..... > > However...my hubby had the emergency surgery @ 7 am and was in > recovery by 11 am......and spent the night and went hime at noon the > following day. To say I was dumbfounded is an > understatement.....but...the surgeon said he was fine, and better to > be home with " friendly bugs' than face the ones there...so I was > very grateful for that. > > Anyway.....you are the only other person I know who went home so > fast:-) My hubby had a single also......altho I do not know if that > really means any less pain from the entire ordeal. > > His one year anniversary is coming up the end of April, and so > far so good. He just turned 57 and has the energy of a healthy 30 > year old. He was tiring alot in the year before the H.A. > > Anyway......... > > my hubby was given a med to stop coagulation,...can't think of > the name of it....and he was put on niaspan, because he nor his > family can tolorate statins. After a month or so, he went off the > one med..and has stayed on the niacin, and is now trying > policosanol. I feel real lucky that the doc was agreeable to have > him on less meds. He does take supplements tho......and.....he > kicked his tobacco habit many years ago. He now tried to do the > treadmill faithfully at least 3 times a week. (45 minutes on a 3% > grade @ almost 4mph.) > > I try to encourage him in relaxation, stuff like that.......cuz > his mind goes fast....he is already planning his every move for next > week. > > Anyway........hang in there........and much luck to you........ > > you will find much knowledge here and at the other group, > supplements for a healthy heart. > > If your hospital offers a rehab program...by all means go....it > was the best thing my hubby ever did for himself. > > Jill > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > I had open heart surgery lasy week ( single bypass, mammary to > LAD, off > > pump), spent a total of 54 hours in the hospital ( from the time > I > > entered the building to the time I was wheeled out). Saw the > surgeon > > today for a follow up and he says everything looks great. > > > > The cardiologist put me on lipitor about a week before surgery > and also > > says a beta blocker might be a good idea. > > > > I', taking the lipitor,but would like to avoid all this crap > quite > > frankly. I quit smoking 10 weeks ago, am watching my diet, as > soon as I > > am able I will be doing more aggressive excercises, etc. now can > > someone recommend a place to go for information on alternatives > to the > > lipitor and beta blockers????? > > > > Thank you in advance > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 An update to this. Just recently I went in for another angiogram, 3 years after the stent put in and 21 months after my last Crestor pill. Everything is working fine, no blockages, the surgeon, Dr Hamburger believe it or not, who did the stent originally said keep doing what you are doing, you are in great shape. He also said keep taking the statins. I laughed and told him I'm not taking them, just red wine, some exercise and now a low GI diet. --- LesinAZ@... wrote: > In a message dated 3/31/2005 10:31:04 PM US Mountain > Standard Time, > chingford@... writes: > > I've had a stent put in, was put on statins and had > bad reactions from high doses, 20mg Lipitor, then a > year later 10 mg Crestor. My cardiologist has filed > an > adverse reaction report, at least he said he was. He > also recommends Bisoprolol Fumarate, it lowers and > stabilises the pulse. > You are so lucky to have a Dr that cares ! My Dr got > in my face and denied > that my damage was caused by the statins ! Of course > I picked the wrong Dr, his > field has been in research , and he is owned by the > drug companies ! > Les . > __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I've posted before but here it is again. Sciatica pain in lower back, buttocks and thighs. Second time around really bad, needed 2 crutches for 3 weeks, foot drop, lack of balance, IOW nerve damage. I think the body either robbed the myelin sheathing to get the cholesterol it needed or denied it when it was needed for repair, hence the effect on sciatic nerve. I still have a slightly numb left foot 21 months after my last Crestor pill. --- Tom wrote: > > Hi , > > what kind of reaction did you have? > > Rgrs > Tom > > > > > I've had a stent put in, was put on statins and > had > > bad reactions from high doses, 20mg Lipitor, then > a > > year later 10 mg Crestor. My cardiologist has > filed an > > adverse reaction report, at least he said he was. > He > > also recommends Bisoprolol Fumarate, it lowers > and > > stabilises the pulse. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Don't panic, what you're seeing is the usual progression of Scoby growth. It sounds like it might be a strong grower, sit back and watch your new pet. Don't stir it, I've never heard anyone suggest you do that. Just give it food and let it do its own thing. What a normal Scoby does, is to try to cover the entire top layer of the liquid, and no matter how wide the jar, or how little, it will still try to cover it. So a quart jar will have a Scoby that covers the top of the liquid in it, and a gallon will have one that desperately tries to fill in the blanks, so to speak. After a couple of brewings, this Scoby will make others and will be in itself a stronger, thicker top of the brew Scoby. Tomorrow or so, stick a straw in it, put your finger on the top, then drop the liquid on your tongue. If it is still real sweet, let it wait another day or so. Then check again. Happy brewing. Pat in CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 greetings!am new to brewing and drinking but thankfully happened upon this group. received a scoby last week via the internet and thought i was to stir as long as it was sinking. after further research, stopped stirring on day 5 and am now on day six. my only activity is a thin short creamy line with a small circular spread of film going outward along the watermark wall of the jar and some " tendrils " formed on the bottom of my submerged scoby that have come up to the surfaced and another little piece of separated creamy tendrils at the top in another area-total of three different things going on in three different areas. also figured out during my research that i did not receive enough starter tea to make up a 10th of a gallon and then over dosed my scoby with organic distilled vinegar on the same day i stopped stirring. smells like vinegar, looks like cloudy tea, seeing lots of bubbles yet wondering if that line and small spread of film is mold. should i sit tight and wait this out or is it time to panic and do something else? thanks! ><{{}} " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 so, i got a strong one eh? not sure how you were able to tell from what i said but i recieve your words as truth. because i split the orinigal scoby, there is actually two 1/2 gallon brews i am working on. the other looks kinda milky from the top in one area so i guess that is good too. am wondering about the vinegar overdose. thanks! lynn BSPMerced@... wrote: Don't panic, what you're seeing is the usual progression of Scoby growth. It sounds like it might be a strong grower, sit back and watch your new pet. Don't stir it, I've never heard anyone suggest you do that. Just give it food and let it do its own thing. What a normal Scoby does, is to try to cover the entire top layer of the liquid, and no matter how wide the jar, or how little, it will still try to cover it. So a quart jar will have a Scoby that covers the top of the liquid in it, and a gallon will have one that desperately tries to fill in the blanks, so to speak. After a couple of brewings, this Scoby will make others and will be in itself a stronger, thicker top of the brew Scoby. Tomorrow or so, stick a straw in it, put your finger on the top, then drop the liquid on your tongue. If it is still real sweet, let it wait another day or so. Then check again. Happy brewing. Pat in CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Lynn what you're describing all sounds very normal (except the stirring, but then you knew that, or, you do now > am wondering about the vinegar overdose. Not a problem. Not an overdose. Vinegar is a friendly addition to KT (unless it is live vinegar, in which case it might compete with the KT organisms), but you stated you used organic distilled, so you have no problem. It's also very normal for people to be very worried when they first start brewing, but it sounds like you're all good. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 right on victoria. thanks so much for taking time to answer my question. i have been looking through the previous messages posted and have enjoyed some of your writings so again, thanks! ><{{}} " >lynn Baker wrote: Lynn what you're describing all sounds very normal (except the stirring, but then you knew that, or, you do now > am wondering about the vinegar overdose. Not a problem. Not an overdose. Vinegar is a friendly addition to KT (unless it is live vinegar, in which case it might compete with the KT organisms), but you stated you used organic distilled, so you have no problem. It's also very normal for people to be very worried when they first start brewing, but it sounds like you're all good. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 In message <ecvvho+3k2leGroups> you wrote: > greetings!am new to brewing and drinking but thankfully happened upon > this group. > received a scoby last week via the internet and thought i was to stir > as long as it was sinking. > after further research, stopped stirring on day 5 and am now on day > six. Greetings, Faith-person! :-) WOW, what a stirring experience! ;-) I don't think it would have done your Kombucha any harm, but on the other hand would have definitely thwarted the formation of a new scoby/culture/pancaky-thing on top. I expect you gathered, that a quiet 'leave alone' existence is the happiest mode to be for the developing KT. As you still have your old culture and the probably nicely developing Kombucha Tea Tonic you should be fine for your next brew! 'Culture' is both the solid as well as the liquid, as the yeasts and bacteria are distributed through it all, with the top being favoured by the bacteria and the bottom of the jar by the yeasts ...... > my only activity is a thin short creamy line with a small circular > spread of film going outward along the watermark wall of the jar and > some " tendrils " formed on the bottom of my submerged scoby that have > come up to the surfaced and another little piece of separated creamy > tendrils at the top in another area-total of three different things > going on in three different areas. Your description sounds normal and that of an active brew. So don't worry. You could now carefully try your brew with aid of a straw to see whether the taste is coming up to the right acidity - I take it you prefer it not too vinegary? ;-) > also figured out during my research that i did not receive enough > starter tea to make up a 10th of a gallon and then over dosed my scoby > with organic distilled vinegar on the same day i stopped stirring. > smells like vinegar, looks like cloudy tea, seeing lots of bubbles yet > wondering if that line and small spread of film is mold. > should i sit tight and wait this out or is it time to panic and do > something else? Especially with having added so much vinegar the film is most likely a new scoby forming and NOT mold. Mold is fuzzy and usually darkish. Have a look at this: http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm So, my advice to you is: 1) Try. 2) If too acidic use for next KT (acidic KT is ideal as starter) and dilute for drinking. 3) Don't panic, but go to 1) and take it from there. :-) Warm Kombucha greetings! Margret (UK - just returned from Germany and more Kombucha ;-) -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Minstrel@... <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com http://www.lamblion.com/ +---------------------------------------------------------------+ ...whatever is true, noble, right, pure, lovely, adnirable, excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things! (Phil.4:8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Hi Margret, and welcome back! You have been sorely missed. Lynn, thanks for the kind words, and glad to help. Just to reiterate for Lynn and anyone else, because I had a private call about this recently: Mold is ALWAYS fuzzy. Always. So if you think you have mold, wash and rinse your hands and reach out and touch it. If it's fuzzy, sticking up off the surface like mold on a batch of rice or pasta, then yeah it's mold. If your finger encounters slickness, then it's just an irregularity in the SCOBY and it's ALL OK. It doesn't matter how round the spot is or what color it is, the only thing that will ALWAYS tell you is the fuzz factor. Or so I understand. --V ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 I think the plant idea would be great and would like to know! Also, there was a post by Ed I think, about the kombucha experiment using an airator, which made a good tea, just without any new scoby forming. Audrey <snippet> > > Has anyone ever tried using it on plants that have a fungus on them? Just wondering if it would damage the plant. > I don't think it would have done your Kombucha any harm, but > on the other hand would have definitely thwarted the formation > of a new scoby/culture/pancaky-thing on top. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Great Question, Being a organic farmer, it is common to us to look at the relationship between prey/predator. So whenever there is bacteria or fungus that is out of balance we see it as a need to have the predator fungus present to re-colonize the area with beneficial bacteria and or fungus. So to answer the question about kombucha on plants, its worth a try in combating the parasitic fungus and absolutely won't harm the plant in any event. > Has anyone ever tried using it on plants that have a fungus on > them? Just wondering if it would damage the plant. > > Skye > > Margret Pegg wrote: > In message <ecvvho+3k2leGroups> you wrote: > > > greetings!am new to brewing and drinking but thankfully happened > upon > > this group. > > received a scoby last week via the internet and thought i was to > stir > > as long as it was sinking. > > after further research, stopped stirring on day 5 and am now on day > > six. > > Greetings, Faith-person! :-) > > WOW, what a stirring experience! ;-) > > I don't think it would have done your Kombucha any harm, but > on the other hand would have definitely thwarted the formation > of a new scoby/culture/pancaky-thing on top. > I expect you gathered, that a quiet 'leave alone' existence is > the happiest mode to be for the developing KT. > > As you still have your old culture and the probably nicely developing > Kombucha Tea Tonic you should be fine for your next brew! > 'Culture' is both the solid as well as the liquid, as the yeasts and > bacteria are distributed through it all, with the top being favoured > by the bacteria and the bottom of the jar by the yeasts ...... > > > my only activity is a thin short creamy line with a small circular > > spread of film going outward along the watermark wall of the jar and > > some " tendrils " formed on the bottom of my submerged scoby that have > > come up to the surfaced and another little piece of separated creamy > > tendrils at the top in another area-total of three different things > > going on in three different areas. > > Your description sounds normal and that of an active brew. So don't > worry. You could now carefully try your brew with aid of a straw to > see whether the taste is coming up to the right acidity - I take it > you prefer it not too vinegary? ;-) > > > also figured out during my research that i did not receive enough > > starter tea to make up a 10th of a gallon and then over dosed my > scoby > > with organic distilled vinegar on the same day i stopped stirring. > > smells like vinegar, looks like cloudy tea, seeing lots of > bubbles yet > > wondering if that line and small spread of film is mold. > > should i sit tight and wait this out or is it time to panic and do > > something else? > > Especially with having added so much vinegar the film is most likely > a new scoby forming and NOT mold. > > Mold is fuzzy and usually darkish. > Have a look at this: > > http://www.happyherbalist.com/pictures.htm > > So, my advice to you is: > > 1) Try. > 2) If too acidic use for next KT (acidic KT is ideal as starter) > and dilute for drinking. > 3) Don't panic, but go to 1) and take it from there. :-) > > Warm Kombucha greetings! > > Margret (UK - just returned from Germany and more Kombucha ;-) > -- > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > Minstrel@... > <)))<>< http://www.therpc.f9.co.uk <)))<>< > http://www.AnswersInGenesis.com > http://www.lamblion.com/ > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > ...whatever is true, noble, right, pure, lovely, adnirable, > excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things! (Phil.4:8) > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone > call rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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