Re: Universal Oral vaccine not the 'x' factor

[Guest guest]

No, the 'diathelic phenomenon' is a completly different concept

than " the X factor " described by Weston A Price.

As explained in 'the Milk Book' there is an immense amount of top-

level research [ over 4000 peer-reviewed studies] proving that when a

disease agent is introduced into the cistern of a mammary gland, the

gland will generate the precise anti-body for that disease, and

deliver it back into the milk within 24 hours.

If this isn't the most amazing thing I've ever heard, I don't know

what is.

So, if that research has been around for the best part of half a

century, why isn't " immune milk " being produced and delivered to

those who need it? Because it's too simple. It's too cheap. There

isn't enormous amounts of money to be made from it. As with so many

other procedures/ natural substances which really do cure diseases -

the FDA outlawed it.

If you read the whole saga of the 'Universal Oral Vaccine' di

Fabio explains the legal aspect.

But not to despair. The mechanics of getting a disease agent up the

teat canal into the cistern chamber aren't exactly rocket science. A

fine hypodermic and a steady hand and a bit of practice will do.

I welcome correspondence from those who are pursuing this topic

Gordon

7954 Elwell Street Burnaby British Columbia V5E 1M4 Canada ~~~~~~

> Is the " transfer factor " discussed in Universal Oral Vaccine: The

> Immune Milk Saga !

> equivalent to the " x-factor " of WAP?

>

> Regards,

> Tony

>

> >Message: 24

> > Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 21:27:17 -0000

> > From: " Gordon S. " <fitzwalter@c...>

> >Subject: Universal Oral vaccine

> >

> >The Saga of Immune Milk by di Fabio is now posted at <

> >http://www.freewebs.com/bovinity/ >

> >

> >In-depth explanation about the 'diathelic phenomenon' as mentioned

by

> >Dr. s in " the Milk Book " .

> >

> >Gordon

> >

[Guest guest]

Gordon,

This is truly wonderous science indeed. The FDA's response is totally predictable for all the reasons you alluded to.

I see this as a wonderful new underground line of healing work that could be done, as you say, quite easily by anyone with a little independent spirit and courage, and of course a milking cow. Colostrum is being used to enhance immunity, why not innoculated milk from nature's own authentic universal oral vaccine producer.

Thank you for bringing this absolutely fascinating topic up. Due to the lack of response so far, I suspect it will take a little initiative to bring this to life.

viva la revomootion!

Tonio

Universal Oral vaccine> >> >The Saga of Immune Milk by di Fabio is now posted at < > >http://www.freewebs.com/bovinity/ >> > > >In-depth explanation about the 'diathelic phenomenon' as mentioned by > >Dr. s in "the Milk Book".> >> >Gordon > >PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

[Guest guest]

Gordon and Tonio,

My lack of response on this matter has not been because I disagree or

think it ludicrous, but because I didn't know exactly what you were

talking about at first read, but found my self very intrigued. Thus

I set off on my own to learn a little more before I chimed in. I'm

still at a loss here on more info but VERY intrigued and willing to

learn! It sounds like it's just too good to be true!

~wren

> > Is the " transfer factor " discussed in Universal Oral Vaccine:

The

> > Immune Milk Saga !

> > equivalent to the " x-factor " of WAP?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Tony

> >

> > >Message: 24

> > > Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 21:27:17 -0000

> > > From: " Gordon S. " <fitzwalter@c...>

> > >Subject: Universal Oral vaccine

> > >

> > >The Saga of Immune Milk by di Fabio is now posted at <

> > >http://www.freewebs.com/bovinity/ >

> > >

> > >In-depth explanation about the 'diathelic phenomenon' as

mentioned

> by

> > >Dr. s in " the Milk Book " .

> > >

> > >Gordon

> > >

>

>

>

> PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!

> Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I remember reading about a guy doing this in Michigan, I believe. He got in

trouble for " practicing medicine without a license. "

[Guest guest]

Yes, the FDA and the AMA are very uptight about anyone encroaching on their territory. Many people doing this sort of thing get a doctor of divinity degree/title and get people to sign a waiver and do it on a donation basis to get around the legal obstacles. It's probably not totally foolproof, but I know of lot's people doing it this way with no problem. Even people who have been busted before.

What a concept - making it illegal to help heal other people, legally leaving it in the hands of the medical establishment who by their own statistics are in the top 5 as causes of death in this country. And that's just the confirmed cases.

In other words, they have a license to kill hundreds of thousands of people every year. While there record of healing cancer and other major diseases is positively abysmal. Money, greed, power, control. Who do they really serve?

Oops, I'm out there again,

Tonio

I remember reading about a guy doing this in Michigan, I believe. He got introuble for "practicing medicine without a license."PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

[Guest guest]

Y'all aren't talking about regular vaccines, are you??? They are terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nature/homeopathy is MUCH better.

Lynda

Re: re: Universal Oral vaccine not the 'x' factor

I remember reading about a guy doing this in Michigan, I believe. He got introuble for "practicing medicine without a license."PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

[Guest guest]

but I

> know of lot's people doing it this way with no problem. Even people who have

> been busted before.

So, could you share some of their success stories? How long do they continue

to give milk from an injected cow before re-injecting it? How long does it

usually take to get people well?

Thanks,

Meg

[Guest guest]

They weren't doing the milk thing. They were doing other non AMA FDA sanctioned healing practices, and far more successfully. I was just giving an example of how someone wanting to do it could avoid legal problems.

Sorry for the misunderstanding,

Toino

but I > know of lot's people doing it this way with no problem. Even people who have> been busted before.So, could you share some of their success stories? How long do they continueto give milk from an injected cow before re-injecting it? How long does itusually take to get people well?Thanks,Meg

[Guest guest]

This seems like a "raw dairy" topic. Though it would be nice to have a little sub list if possible.

This method makes total sense to me. I look forward to hearing about your results.

Tonio

Lynda & I intend to play around with it and will chime back in with the Results. Doing it this way, there is no issue with any regulatory agencies, and you don't have to find a heifer to inoculate.

Does anyone know who di Fabio is? We could have another List just on this topic....

--Terry

[Guest guest]

The Universal Oral Vaccine has NOTHING to do with injections by

needle in to the body.

It is a way to produce a specific antibody for a certain disease

agent by introducing that agent into the cistern of a mammary gland.

In about 24 hours, the " vaccine " will be created by the mammal's body

the cow / the goat] and delivered back in to the milk. Thus, " immune

milk " can be obtained within a day, to be taken ORALLY by a person

who needs it.

More detailed explanation of method to obtain, and high-level

research about it, in 'the Milk Book' by Dr. Wm. s.

Gordon

> Y'all aren't talking about regular vaccines, are you??? They are

terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nature/homeopathy is MUCH better.

>

> Lynda

> Re: re: Universal Oral vaccine not the 'x'

factor

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> I remember reading about a guy doing this in Michigan, I believe.

He got in

> trouble for " practicing medicine without a license. "

>

>

>

> PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!

> Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

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[Guest guest]

When I attended La Leche League 17 years ago I learned how the human breast

accomplishes a process exactly like this. We were told that even if your

infant was exposed to an illness to which you had not been (daycare, etc) --

once they nursed at the breast, a specific antibody to fight that illness

would be produced in the milk.

Very cool, but I'd be wary about artificially producing such a result. Or

maybe the affected person could just nurse off the cow and produce the same

results. ;-)

Starlene

Re: re: Universal Oral vaccine not the 'x'

> factor

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> >

> > I remember reading about a guy doing this in Michigan, I believe.

> He got in

> > trouble for " practicing medicine without a license. "

> >

> >

> >

> > PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!

> > Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Here's one more reference to this fascinating concept. The article

is on immunizing eggs but this reference is to cows:

http://www.keephopealive.org/report22.html

" If cows can be immunized to produce specific transfer factors and

antibodies, why not chickens?

A few years ago I reported in one of the past issues of Positive

Health News, in fact so long ago, I forgot which issue, of a farmer

in Minnesota who immunized pregnant cows with the blood from persons

with various illnesses. About 6 to 8 weeks before the calf is

expected, he would take about one teaspoon of blood from a customer

and using a hypodermic needle with a plastic sleeve around it would

inject some of the blood in both the hind teats of the cow. In a few

days, the cow would get a fever and an immune system reaction. When

the calf was born a few months later, the first 2 or 3 milkings of

Colostrum are frozen in ice cube trays. One or two ice cubes of the

frozen Colostrum is thawed out and consumed daily. Saunders reported

that everyone who used this Colostrum recovered from their

infections and he told me of one person with AIDS who made a

remarkable recovery in health although he had no lab statistics to

share at the time. In fact, PCR wasn't yet available to the public

for measuring viral loads in 1990. Saunders reported that the person

did not continue the treatment and contact was lost. "

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Lynn,

This is pretty exciting. I have forwarded it on to Sandor Katz

(remember him from the FFL conference we went to?), and maybe it will

be of use to him in his AIDS community. I hope this would be the

answer. HEY! Wouldn't that be a satisfying thumb in the eye to the

medical establishment...a cure for AIDS with raw cow's milk? HA!

On Aug 9, 2004, at 4:52 AM, RawDairy wrote:

> Saunders reported

> that everyone who used this Colostrum recovered from their

> infections and he told me of one person with AIDS who made a

> remarkable recovery in health although he had no lab statistics to

> share at the time. In fact, PCR wasn't yet available to the public

> for measuring viral loads in 1990. Saunders reported that the person

> did not continue the treatment and contact was lost. "

>

> Lynn

>

[Guest guest]

Gordon,

Thanks for the clarification. As you have probably surmised, I have not

yet actually finished the article. However, you have reinforced my

incentive to do so.

Tonio,

I share your thoughts on the subject!

Regards,

Tony S

> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 22:19:51 -0000

>

> Subject: Re: Universal Oral vaccine not the 'x' factor

>

> No, the 'diathelic phenomenon' is a completly different concept than

> " the X factor " described by Weston A Price.

>

> As explained in 'the Milk Book' there is an immense amount of top-

> level research [ over 4000 peer-reviewed studies] proving that when a

> disease agent is introduced into the cistern of a mammary gland, the

> gland will generate the precise anti-body for that disease, and

> deliver it back into the milk within 24 hours.

> If this isn't the most amazing thing I've ever heard, I don't know

> what is.

> So, if that research has been around for the best part of half a

> century, why isn't " immune milk " being produced and delivered to

> those who need it? Because it's too simple. It's too cheap. There

> isn't enormous amounts of money to be made from it. As with so many

> other procedures/ natural substances which really do cure diseases -

> the FDA outlawed it.

> If you read the whole saga of the 'Universal Oral Vaccine' di

> Fabio explains the legal aspect.

>

> But not to despair. The mechanics of getting a disease agent up the

> teat canal into the cistern chamber aren't exactly rocket science. A

> fine hypodermic and a steady hand and a bit of practice will do.

> I welcome correspondence from those who are pursuing this topic

>

> Gordon

> 7954 Elwell Street Burnaby British Columbia V5E 1M4 Canada ~~~~~~

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>>> Is the " transfer factor " discussed in Universal Oral Vaccine: The

>>> Immune Milk Saga !

>>> equivalent to the " x-factor " of WAP?

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Tony

>>>

>>

>>

>>>> >Message: 24 > Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 21:27:17 -0000

>>>> > From: " Gordon S. " <fitzwalter@c...>

>>>> >Subject: Universal Oral vaccine

>>>> >

>>>> >The Saga of Immune Milk by di Fabio is now posted at <

>>>> >http://www.freewebs.com/bovinity/ >

>>>> > >In-depth explanation about the 'diathelic phenomenon' as mentioned

>>>

>>>

>>

> by

>

>>>> >Dr. s in " the Milk Book " .

>>>> >

>>>> >Gordon

>>>> >

>>>

[Guest guest]

The label is Beaumont Bio-Med address on the label is 23 1st Ave NE, Waukon IA

52172

Didn't mean to offend anyone with the term 'snake oil'- just an odd sense of

humor. An

old roommate who was studying to be a chiropractor could never decide whether to

be

concerned or laugh at my descriptions since they were " accurate " and I had been

seeing a

chiro for many years.

Lynn

> Okay Lynn--

> If this " snake oil " has a label name....

[Guest guest]

If anyone tries this, have someone take a snapshot. It'd be a great t-shirt advertisement for raw milk .

Tony

Very cool, but I'd be wary about artificially producing such a result. Ormaybe the affected person could just nurse off the cow and produce the sameresults. ;-)