Re: Saw the specialist today

[Guest guest]

I feel that you all are padding this for him. He admitted to drinking even

after liver problems. He has to be aware.

Jo Lynn

wrote:

Hi ,

Don't be worried about the procedure. It is a pretty small instrument

used. I was there when my mom had hers done. They showed it to me and

it really was a very short time. The drs who do this are pretty

experienced with it. They know all the right moves etc. It sounds

worse than it really is. You don't really feel anything afterwards but

they recommend not eating extremely cold or hot items afterwards. Most

of these are done on outpatient basis and as soon as you are awake you

can leave. It was like a 15 in procedure total when my mom had hers

done. Like I said what goes down your throat is very tiny and not as

intrusive as it sounds. The camera actually is how they can see what is

going on and is the best diagnostic tool they can use. Rest easy it is

quick and easy. It'll be over before you know it. I was surprised at

how quick the whole thing was. You will feel better getting some things

verified or eliminated by this procedure. Sending prayers your way.

> I saw the specialist today. Actaully I saw his RN assistant. She

> looked at my test results and beleives my problem is likely a peptic

> ulcer disease. THe specialist however beleives that it may still be

> acute alcoholic liver disease.

>

> They have me scheduled for an endoscopy on Moday morning. I am pretty

> scared about that one.

>

> They also have me scheduled for another series of blood tests.

>

> I was feeling pretty hopeful about the whole thing until the

> specialist chimed in with his opinion, ahh well, the truth will set me

> free right.

>

> Meanwhile, the idea of being put to sleep while they stick a camera

> down my throat into my somach and upper intestines is not sitting

> well. I have been fighting all day to not cancel the appointment.

>

> .

[Guest guest]

Padding what ?

Descriptions of procedures ?

Reassurances that the process is not so bad ?

I don't understand.

Right now I am concerned about this endoscopy and I appreciate all the

support and clarity I can get to ease my nerves. So thankyou all for that.

.

>

> Hi ,

> Don't be worried about the procedure. It is a pretty small instrument

> used. I was there when my mom had hers done. They showed it to me and

> it really was a very short time. The drs who do this are pretty

> experienced with it. They know all the right moves etc. It sounds

> worse than it really is. You don't really feel anything afterwards but

> they recommend not eating extremely cold or hot items afterwards. Most

> of these are done on outpatient basis and as soon as you are awake you

> can leave. It was like a 15 in procedure total when my mom had hers

> done. Like I said what goes down your throat is very tiny and not as

> intrusive as it sounds. The camera actually is how they can see

what is

> going on and is the best diagnostic tool they can use. Rest easy it is

> quick and easy. It'll be over before you know it. I was surprised at

> how quick the whole thing was. You will feel better getting some things

> verified or eliminated by this procedure. Sending prayers your way.

>

>

> > I saw the specialist today. Actaully I saw his RN assistant. She

> > looked at my test results and beleives my problem is likely a peptic

> > ulcer disease. THe specialist however beleives that it may still be

> > acute alcoholic liver disease.

> >

> > They have me scheduled for an endoscopy on Moday morning. I am pretty

> > scared about that one.

> >

> > They also have me scheduled for another series of blood tests.

> >

> > I was feeling pretty hopeful about the whole thing until the

> > specialist chimed in with his opinion, ahh well, the truth will set me

> > free right.

> >

> > Meanwhile, the idea of being put to sleep while they stick a camera

> > down my throat into my somach and upper intestines is not sitting

> > well. I have been fighting all day to not cancel the appointment.

> >

> > .

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hang in there with the test, . Knowledge is power! It's not

always easy or fun to get, but you'll feel better once you have your answers.

Marie in NW Florida

At 07:31 PM 3/23/2005, you wrote:

>I saw the specialist today. Actaully I saw his RN assistant. She

>looked at my test results and beleives my problem is likely a peptic

>ulcer disease. THe specialist however beleives that it may still be

>acute alcoholic liver disease.

>

>They have me scheduled for an endoscopy on Moday morning. I am pretty

>scared about that one.

>

>They also have me scheduled for another series of blood tests.

>

>I was feeling pretty hopeful about the whole thing until the

>specialist chimed in with his opinion, ahh well, the truth will set me

>free right.

>

>Meanwhile, the idea of being put to sleep while they stick a camera

>down my throat into my somach and upper intestines is not sitting

>well. I have been fighting all day to not cancel the appointment.

>

>.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

While we all try to be supportive of each other, the truth is that we all

make mistakes. Sometimes the mistakes are the same ones over and over, even

when we know they are mistakes. Jo Lynn is right when she wrote " I feel

that you all are padding this for him. He admitted to drinking even after

liver problems. He has to be aware. "

We don't need to be particularly harsh, but the simple truth is that if he

does have liver problems, one drink is too many. Many years ago, when I was

in college, I spent a summer in Mexico and came back with Hepatitis A. My

doctor told me not to drink for a year and I did not; in fact, I didn't

drink for about a year and a half just to be safe.

Kjersten learned that she had liver problems about three years ago, but

decided not to share that with me (Didn't want me to worry...). Because of

our wonderful federal privacy act, her doctor did not feel he could share

that with me...even though he was also my doctor.

So, for two years, Kjersten remained a social drinker...we'd go out to

dinner and she would have a vodka martini or she would make one of her

semi-gourmet meals (she calls them lab experments) and I'd break out a

bottle of wine. She said later that when she was with me, she felt

" invincible. " She never drank heavily or even every day or every other

day...but it was enough to do her in.

In my first marriage, I had three boys ( " my three sons " ). I've been told

that girls, especially little girls, are nearly perfect. Boys are not. In

fact, they are very obviously not perfect. My kids always knew that I would

support them and help them in any way I could...but they also knew that I

would tell them when they were wrong and take whatever action I felt was

appropriate to let them know how I felt. They are not perfect adults (who

among us is?), but they're darn good " kids " (22 to 28) and seem to have a

grasp on reality.

deserves our support and our love. But he also needs to realize

that as long as his liver is in trouble, he cannot drink at all.

Dennis

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>Reply-To: livercirrhosissupport

>To: livercirrhosissupport

>Subject: Re: Saw the specialist today

>Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:52:21 -0800 (PST)

>

[Guest guest]

Dennis,

I truly did not mean to be harsh to , but I just went through what

happens and the prejudice against alcoholics. There is NO MERCY... I don't

want anyone else to go through the same things as we as a family did. UNOS has

rules that are yet to be broken, patient beware.

He has to stop anymore damage NOW, if he is to have a chance.

Thanks ,

Jo Lynn

Dennis wrote:

While we all try to be supportive of each other, the truth is that we all

make mistakes. Sometimes the mistakes are the same ones over and over, even

when we know they are mistakes. Jo Lynn is right when she wrote " I feel

that you all are padding this for him. He admitted to drinking even after

liver problems. He has to be aware. "

We don't need to be particularly harsh, but the simple truth is that if he

does have liver problems, one drink is too many. Many years ago, when I was

in college, I spent a summer in Mexico and came back with Hepatitis A. My

doctor told me not to drink for a year and I did not; in fact, I didn't

drink for about a year and a half just to be safe.

Kjersten learned that she had liver problems about three years ago, but

decided not to share that with me (Didn't want me to worry...). Because of

our wonderful federal privacy act, her doctor did not feel he could share

that with me...even though he was also my doctor.

So, for two years, Kjersten remained a social drinker...we'd go out to

dinner and she would have a vodka martini or she would make one of her

semi-gourmet meals (she calls them lab experments) and I'd break out a

bottle of wine. She said later that when she was with me, she felt

" invincible. " She never drank heavily or even every day or every other

day...but it was enough to do her in.

In my first marriage, I had three boys ( " my three sons " ). I've been told

that girls, especially little girls, are nearly perfect. Boys are not. In

fact, they are very obviously not perfect. My kids always knew that I would

support them and help them in any way I could...but they also knew that I

would tell them when they were wrong and take whatever action I felt was

appropriate to let them know how I felt. They are not perfect adults (who

among us is?), but they're darn good " kids " (22 to 28) and seem to have a

grasp on reality.

deserves our support and our love. But he also needs to realize

that as long as his liver is in trouble, he cannot drink at all.

Dennis

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>Reply-To: livercirrhosissupport

>To: livercirrhosissupport

>Subject: Re: Saw the specialist today

>Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 20:52:21 -0800 (PST)

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