Re: Kefir & Wren Feeling Bad

[Guest guest]

It's happening to me too. I started drinking real kefir about 2 months ago, EM 1 1/2 months ago, AND Kombucha 1 month ago. I've had a stiff sore neck like nothing I've ever had, for the past month straight. Nothing helps much or for long. Lethargic. Very hard to get to work, and not much inspired when I get there except to leave as soon as possible. Maybe it's just in my head. I could try prozac next. ;o) Only my silly sense of humor seems to be thriving along with all my other fermenting cultures.

I've been doing my best to accept and love myself as I find myself and let go of wanting to run or change myself or worry about myself too much. I figure I'm hopeless. It makes it a lot easier. My friends still smile when they see me. At least that seems like a good sign.

ROTFLHOOC with a wickedly sore and stiff neck,

Tonio

This is not Exactly what is going on when you have an ingestion of Healthy Bacteria, but you can understand what is likely going on inside your Body, as the Clean-up Crew does their work. www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/2001/bnlpr121101.htm

I remember Belinda--TN was feeling really Tired this Spring when she tried to do the Milk Diet as kefired Goat Milk. Very few feel as bad as Wren seems to be feeling, but it is possible. Kombucha does this to a lot of people too.

I'm wondering if you did a "super" culture, or a short one? Butyric and other Acids do build up in the longer ferments. Buffer with more Cream when you go longer than 12 hrs., or dilute with some fresh RawMilk when you drink it. Add fresh fruit only shortly before consumption, or you may get some Alcohol in there too.

See if this helps, and your mystery is solved.

--Terry

"With Milk, it's better to have the Real Thing

or nothing." ~~~ Anton

[Guest guest]

2Questions:

What is EM? Do I need to be doing this too? I starting the kefir

and Kombucha within the last month and haven't had any herx problems

whatsoever.

and ROTFLHOOC? I think the first part is rolling on the floor

laughing - but can't make out the rest of it. So what is it?

Rhonda

> It's happening to me too. I started drinking real kefir about 2

months ago, EM 1 1/2 months ago, AND Kombucha 1 month ago.

>

> ROTFLHOOC with a wickedly sore and stiff neck,

> Tonio

[Guest guest]

What is EM? Do I need to be doing this too? I starting the kefir and Kombucha within the last month and haven't had any herx problems whatsoever.

For basic information on EM as well as it's uses in human and animal health, please see the EM Information website, at: http://www.eminfo.infoFor more advanced information on EM products for human use, please see the Antiox Brew website, at:http://www.antioxbrew.comTo send a post to the list, please send an e-mail to EM-health and ROTFLHOOC? I think the first part is rolling on the floor laughing - but can't make out the rest of it. So what is it?

....hysterically out of control.

Tonio

[Guest guest]

I have been feeling especially tired since starting Kombucha. There might be

value in sharing both the good and bad experiences. Perhaps there might be a

more appropriate list. Any suggestions?

Re: Kefir & Wren Feeling Bad

It's happening to me too. I started drinking real kefir about 2 months ago, EM 1

1/2 months ago, AND Kombucha 1 month ago. I've had a stiff sore neck like

nothing I've ever had, for the past month straight. Nothing helps much or for

long. Lethargic. Very hard to get to work, and not much inspired when I get

there except to leave as soon as possible. Maybe it's just in my head. I could

try prozac next. ;o) Only my silly sense of humor seems to be thriving along

with all my other fermenting cultures.

I've been doing my best to accept and love myself as I find myself and let go of

wanting to run or change myself or worry about myself too much. I figure I'm

hopeless. It makes it a lot easier. My friends still smile when they see me. At

least that seems like a good sign.

ROTFLHOOC with a wickedly sore and stiff neck,

Tonio

This is not Exactly what is going on when you have an ingestion of Healthy

Bacteria, but you can understand what is likely going on inside your Body, as

the Clean-up Crew does their work.

www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/2001/bnlpr121101.htm

I remember Belinda--TN was feeling really Tired this Spring when she tried to

do the Milk Diet as kefired Goat Milk. Very few feel as bad as Wren seems to be

feeling, but it is possible. Kombucha does this to a lot of people too.