Re: Re: calories/fat/etc

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Rhonda my dear,

I remember you keep asking this Vit. D. question and I'm so sorry, you aren't getting a quick reply!

I hope I can be of some help. Here is one (somewhat at least!) applicable paragraph .....

> The milk levels of vitamin C and D are low and roughly the same > for cows and goats.@@@@@@1. The statement about vit C is correct.2. According to the USDA data, cow milk is 3.77 times higher than goat milk in vit D. That's not roughly the same. "low" is a subjective term here, but the levels of vit D are high enough to make a very significant contribution and would rank among the top 10 or 20 sources of vit D among common foods. I would call the levels "good" instead of "low".

This is from a post by Anton . He's wonderful! Very analytic, as you will see, when you read his post. Please check out msg. #4185 dated April 24. (The paragraph I cut and pasted comes frm there, about halfway down the loooooong document. Lots of info and facts! I miss his presence, he hasn't been posting for a while now. :-( Anyhow, girl, I used "Vitamin D" as the search phrase for the archives and this is the latest one I remember on the facts of milk nutrients. You could try going back in time, to see if you come across more Vit. D. references in particular. Have you checked out the files on the group website as well?

Sara "At Your Service" Moderator ;-)

PS Your mom is lucky to have you to research her case!

Re: calories/fat/etc

I have a similar question to ask. Does anyone know about the Vitamin D content in raw milk vs P/H Vit D added. It's kinda' complicated, but basically my mom has Sarcoidosis and her body creates so much Vit D that she gets a total fatigue when even exposed to direct sunlight for even a short time. She is expressing a desire to make raw milk yogurt for the probiotics, but is nervous about the Vit D. I think I asked this question before on this group, but it may have been another health group. Either way, I'm still waiting for some sort OK that the naturally occuring Vit D in raw milk is on the low side. I know that's an odd thing to hope for, given the excellent nutrition of why we all want raw milk, but in this case low Vit D would be a good thing Also, this would be after the cream is skimmed off the top of Holstein milk, if that helps any...Rhonda> Hi. I'm looking for basic nutritional info (calories and> protein/fat/carb breakdown) for raw milk, raw cream and whey.> > Also, I'm also curious how this info for milk compares to the> milk before the cream is removed?> > Alan > Garland, TXPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Rhonda.

I read

someplace (I think it was in Nourishing

Traditions) that even though P/H milk may have added vitamin D, it

isn’t readily taken and utilized by the body as is natural vitamin D in raw milk.

Also check

other sources of vitamin D egg yolks from free ranging chickens (should be dark

orange in color) and from fatty fish.

Try to eat the yolks as close to raw, if not raw, as possible.

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From: fourume2003

To: RawDairy

Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004

6:23 PM

Subject:

Re: calories/fat/etc

I have a similar question to ask. Does anyone know about the

Vitamin

D content in raw milk vs P/H Vit D added. It's kinda' complicated,

but basically my mom has Sarcoidosis and her body creates so much Vit

D that she gets a total fatigue when even exposed to direct sunlight

for even a short time. She is expressing a desire to make raw milk

yogurt for the probiotics, but is nervous about the Vit D. I think I

asked this question before on this group, but it may have been

another health group. Either way, I'm still waiting for some sort OK

that the naturally occuring Vit D in raw milk is on the low side. I

know that's an odd thing to hope for, given the excellent nutrition

of why we all want raw milk, but in this case low Vit D would be a

good thing Also, this would be after the cream is skimmed off the

top of Holstein milk, if that helps any...

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

Here is a

link to some info on vitamin D from the Weston A Price foundation:

http://www.westonaprice.org/nutrition_guidelines/nutrition_vitaminD.html

There is

mention to sarcoidosis and caution towards vitamin D therapy.

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From: fourume2003

Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 7:23

PM

To: RawDairy

Subject: Re:

calories/fat/etc

I have a similar question to ask. Does anyone know about the

Vitamin

D content in raw milk vs P/H Vit D added. It's kinda' complicated,

but basically my mom has Sarcoidosis and her body creates so much Vit

D that she gets a total fatigue when even exposed to direct sunlight

for even a short time. She is expressing a desire to make raw milk

yogurt for the probiotics, but is nervous about the Vit D. I think I

asked this question before on this group, but it may have been

another health group. Either way, I'm still waiting for some sort OK

that the naturally occuring Vit D in raw milk is on the low side. I

know that's an odd thing to hope for, given the excellent nutrition

of why we all want raw milk, but in this case low Vit D would be a

good thing Also, this would be after the cream is skimmed off the

top of Holstein milk, if that helps any...

Rhonda

> Hi. I'm looking for basic nutritional info (calories and

> protein/fat/carb breakdown) for raw milk, raw cream and whey.

>

> Also, I'm also curious how this info for milk compares to the

> milk before the cream is removed?

>

> Alan

> Garland, TX

PLEASE BE KIND

AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!

Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/

[Guest guest]

Alan,

If you would like to, you could search the archives for "sweet whey." Below is a letter composed by Anton . Gosh, he really knows his stuff! (Msg #3453).

This list is not even 1 year old, we all are learning here. I am starting to think that we should have some files saved that describe nutrient contents of whey, milk, cream, etc. as I can see those questions do crop up from time on time on this list. Any volunteers to do the compilation and uploading?

Oh, Alan, while I was doing the search, I came across one letter that said she tried letting whey sit out for a couple days...it actually became sweet after originally being sour. (Probably in the msg #4000 range.)

"At Your Service" Sara

Copied letter below....

> Re: whey nutritional information>>> @@@@@@@@> > So is whey mostly carbohydrate or protein or just water?> > > @@@@@@@>> Like milk, whey is mostly water, but it also has most of the> nutrients of milk, minerals, vitamins, etc, and if it's old-fashioned> homemade whey [in contrast with industrially manfactured whey], it'll> have lots of good bacteria and lactic acid. In terms of> macronutrients, it's mostly lactose and whey proteins. Whey is> tremendously valuable food, and I drink some everyday.> Unfortunately, despite trying in the past, I haven't been able to> find data for real [ala NT] whey, just data for "sweet whey"> and "acid whey" without any explanation of exactly what these things> are and how they relate to NT whey. And the USDA data> (usda.shim.net) for whey, while suggestive and useful, doesn't> indicate what kind of whey they're talking about. On the Native> Nutrition list there was a good thread about whey composition some> months ago with a bunch of interesting technical info and links, but> it's a pain to search the archives on Yahoo groups, so you might find> it easier to just google on it.>> Mike > SE Pennsylvania>>

I wonder what "sweet" whey is? The whey I get from my farmer isnot sweet at all, it's somewhat sour.