Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Corn is not legal on SCD. Do you have the book, Breaking the Vicious cycle? It really is essential. There is a list of legal and illegal foods on www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info. That said, parents can choose to allow their children anything they want to allow. However if you allow a child corn, the child is not SCD-compliant. -- Sue > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with the SCD? > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Corn is starchy and not on the SCD diet. Addtionally, we know it is very difficult if not impossible to digest and undigested food feeds intestinal bacteria and fungus. Corn is not your friend in autism or chronic illness recovery IMO. - Stan > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with the SCD? > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 what is scd? --- masktharrett wrote: > Corn is not legal on SCD. Do you have the book, > Breaking the Vicious > cycle? It really is essential. There is a list of > legal and illegal > foods on www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info. > > That said, parents can choose to allow their > children anything they > want to allow. However if you allow a child corn, > the child is not > SCD-compliant. > > -- Sue > > > > > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with > the SCD? > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > attachments. > > > > > > > Barb Katsaros barbkatsaros@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Specific Carbohydrate Diet http://www.scdiet.org/ http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com/ > > > > > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with > > the SCD? > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Mail > > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > > attachments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barb Katsaros > barbkatsaros@... > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Does anyone else have a child allergic to all nuts (including almonds and everything in that family like peaches) except peanuts and they (the peanuts) are .205 on the IGg. Also allergies to eggs and still able to comply with the SCD diet? Also allergic to beef, food dyes, shell fish, and turkey is on the IGg .210. All of the allergies I talk about are scratch test allergies we HAVE to stay away from as well as all Dairy. Is there anything I can feed my child? Also keep in mind he doesn't eat many foods as it is. Anything new I would somehow have to force or hide. This is very frustrating. If he ate chicken and vegetables I would feed them for every meal but he wont touch either. Help! - > >Date: Fri Feb 17 22:31:35 CST 2006 >To: mb12 valtrex >Subject: Re: scd >Specific Carbohydrate Diet >http://www.scdiet.org/ >http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.com/ > > > >> > > >> > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with >> > the SCD? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --------------------------------- >> > > Yahoo! Mail >> > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying >> > attachments. >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> Barb Katsaros >> barbkatsaros@... >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 I believe the official site is: http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > > > > > > > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with > > > the SCD? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Yahoo! Mail > > > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > > > attachments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barb Katsaros > > barbkatsaros@ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 One of the reasons that I suggest doing an IGG food test and taking those items out of the SCD diet is... the SCD does not take into account the food particles that can leak through the gut and cause an autoimmune response. Eggs quite often are a problem and egg whites are typically worse than egg yoke, which is quite different than what we are told about cholesterol regarding eggs. I personally had high markers for eggs and I didn't believe since I was eating egg whites all the time and felt healthy back then. Just to test it, I took eggs out for two weeks and then reintroduced them and I got headaches. Other people have reported the same things and I have some videos of reports of people who have tried this. You can go to www.recoveryvideos.com and watch the video with Crystal. Regarding nuts, my son had markers for almond but not walnut or hazelnut so we use them. Basically, I strongly believe in taking out foods that are IGG Food Allergy by Blood markers. You can continue the SC Diet... just remove the foods where you have IGG markers. - Stan > >> > > > >> > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with > >> > the SCD? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > --------------------------------- > >> > > Yahoo! Mail > >> > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > >> > attachments. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> Barb Katsaros > >> barbkatsaros@ > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Also scratch test and IGG Food Allergy by Blood are two different things all together. It's important to stay away from the foods from the scratch test, but that does not tell you what might be leaking through the gut. I would run a Great Plains or Doctors Data IGG Food Allergy test by Blood as well. Once you start taking milk and starches out of the diet and add probiotics and antifungals you'll see in days that your child WILL almost always start eating other foods. The bacterial dysbiosis (bad mix of bacteria) in the gut will cause you child to crave the bad foods. Additionally the fungus in the gut eat away at any sugars (also created by bacteria) and create alcohol and the kids get addicted to that as well. Think about what you want to eat when you are drinking alcohol... junk food. It sounds crazy, but you can watch the Elaine Gottschall tribute on www.recoveryvideos.com and you'll see some evidence for yourself. - Stan > >> > > > >> > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with > >> > the SCD? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > --------------------------------- > >> > > Yahoo! Mail > >> > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > >> > attachments. > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> Barb Katsaros > >> barbkatsaros@ > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Or you can do like I did and go to Napa and see the proces of wine being made from yeast and grapes. I was there on vacation... but it hit me like a slap in the face. Quite a downer during wine tasting. - Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Thanks so much for your responses Stan. We have actually been off of all scratch allergies for 4 years. Our family has a high tendency to lots of food allergies. I also took away all dairy limited gluten. We just did the IGg test and he is allergic to absolutely everything he is eating mildly and somethings he had reaction he has never eaten. The DAN told us we can't take away everything we have to rotate. Because he will develop IGg reactions to anything introduced. Rotation is the only thing we can do. 5 members of my side of the family are all reporting allergies to so many foods even many allergy friendly foods like fruits and olive oil. It's like our bodies are at war... no foods are safe in this body.LOL. We're going to do what we can. Thanks for the suggestions. - > >Date: Sat Feb 18 12:59:59 CST 2006 >To: mb12 valtrex >Subject: Re: scd >Also scratch test and IGG Food Allergy by Blood are two different things all together. > >It's important to stay away from the foods from the scratch test, but that does not tell you >what might be leaking through the gut. > >I would run a Great Plains or Doctors Data IGG Food Allergy test by Blood as well. > >Once you start taking milk and starches out of the diet and add probiotics and antifungals >you'll see in days that your child WILL almost always start eating other foods. The >bacterial dysbiosis (bad mix of bacteria) in the gut will cause you child to crave the bad >foods. Additionally the fungus in the gut eat away at any sugars (also created by bacteria) >and create alcohol and the kids get addicted to that as well. Think about what you want to >eat when you are drinking alcohol... junk food. It sounds crazy, but you can watch the >Elaine Gottschall tribute on www.recoveryvideos.com and you'll see some evidence for >yourself. > >- Stan > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with >> >> > the SCD? >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > --------------------------------- >> >> > > Yahoo! Mail >> >> > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying >> >> > attachments. >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Barb Katsaros >> >> barbkatsaros@ >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Do you have a gut sealing strategy in place? If so, let me know what it is. I may have some suggestions for you. Have you done a copper/zinc ratio test (Great Plains or DD) What kind of water are you drinking? How much zinc are you giving per day? How are your child's stools? Have you ran a Immunoscience viral panel? Have you ran a recent Oats test? Does your child have a white tongue? - Stan > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with > >> >> > the SCD? > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > --------------------------------- > >> >> > > Yahoo! Mail > >> >> > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > >> >> > attachments. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Barb Katsaros > >> >> barbkatsaros@ > >> >> > >> >> __________________________________________________ > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Stan, This is one of the reasons we haven't been able to get to valtrex yet too many gut issues to work on. He was off of all supplements for 1 week before the tests and just getting over a whopper of a virus that included head to toe hives. So I not sure how that affected the test results. -Zinc to copper good 11.7mg/g-.69mg/g -Dr. Philip Hodes told us to use distilled only, the DAN just told us spring only, and reading this sight reverse osmosis is the way to go. In my fridge at the moment is spring, at the time of testing distilled and spring and filtered in the bathroom. Who knew how confusing water could be....? -Zinc drink 2x per day 1/4 tsp -For the 1st time ever they are beautiful except for the days they are full of sand from yeast die off. We just started nystatin and milk thistle hence the beautiful stools. (and of course food avoidance) -No viral panel yet, although he is regressive form after MMR (he never had a food allergy before that either), and I have had the cold sore virus since I was a baby. So I'm sure he has elivated levels of many things. -No oats test. What is it exactly? I've seen parents post results all over the place. -He only has a white tongue when he has a virus. It's beautiful and red at the moment. Thanks for your time you are so dedicated and very appreciated by this Mom. - > >Date: Sat Feb 18 13:56:05 CST 2006 >To: mb12 valtrex >Subject: Re: scd >Do you have a gut sealing strategy in place? If so, let me know what it is. I may have >some suggestions for you. > >Have you done a copper/zinc ratio test (Great Plains or DD) > >What kind of water are you drinking? > >How much zinc are you giving per day? > >How are your child's stools? > >Have you ran a Immunoscience viral panel? > >Have you ran a recent Oats test? > >Does your child have a white tongue? > >- Stan > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Can we allow our children to eat corn along with >> >> >> > the SCD? >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > --------------------------------- >> >> >> > > Yahoo! Mail >> >> >> > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying >> >> >> > attachments. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Barb Katsaros >> >> >> barbkatsaros@ >> >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Hi , You are right--the SCD would be incredibly difficult with so many restrictions. Can your son (or will he) eat pork or buffalo? That would help. Food dyes, shell fish, and turkey are easy enough to avoid but beef would be tough to do without. ly, not being able to eat shellfish (or any fish for that matter) is no great loss for our kids. I won't serve my kids any fish because of the danger of mercury contamination, even in the " best " fish. Have you considered NAET treatments for the allergies? You can look up the whole NAET protocol on www.naet.com . I will tell you up front that it really sounds like a lot of hocus pocus but I can tell you we used it to clear my daughter for eggs and it worked beautifully. Before NAET, she could not have eggs in any form but now she can. What was interesting to me, was that once NAET cleared up her egg intolerance, my daughter suddenly had no interest in eating eggs (she used to love them). Strange, huh? Anyway, you could try NAET to address some of the more troublesome allergies like almonds, which are used so much on the SCD. The website I wrote above will have a practitioner list for your area but you should really try to get a recommendation for another parent, if you can. Like anything else, there are good practitioners and bad ones. Good luck. Suzanne Woodland Hills, CA On Feb 18, 2006, at 10:55 AM, mb12 valtrex wrote: > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:52:14 -0600 (CST) > > Subject: Re: Re: scd > > Does anyone else have a child allergic to all nuts (including almonds > and everything in that family like peaches) except peanuts and they > (the peanuts) are .205 on the IGg. Also allergies to eggs and still > able to comply with the SCD diet? Also allergic to beef, food dyes, > shell fish, and turkey is on the IGg .210. All of the allergies I > talk about are scratch test allergies we HAVE to stay away from as > well as all Dairy. Is there anything I can feed my child? Also keep > in mind he doesn't eat many foods as it is. Anything new I would > somehow have to force or hide. This is very frustrating. If he ate > chicken and vegetables I would feed them for every meal but he wont > touch either. Help! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Thankyou Suzanne. I have heard of NAET but never looked into it, I will now. Beef and fish aren't really the hard ones but all nuts and eggs and dairy, etc, etc are the difficult ones. He is soooo picky... isn't buffalo beef? Thanks, > >Date: Sun Feb 19 16:33:15 CST 2006 >To: mb12 valtrex >Subject: Re: scd >Hi , > >You are right--the SCD would be incredibly difficult with so many >restrictions. Can your son (or will he) eat pork or buffalo? That >would help. Food dyes, shell fish, and turkey are easy enough to avoid >but beef would be tough to do without. ly, not being able to eat >shellfish (or any fish for that matter) is no great loss for our kids. >I won't serve my kids any fish because of the danger of mercury >contamination, even in the " best " fish. > >Have you considered NAET treatments for the allergies? You can look up >the whole NAET protocol on www.naet.com . I will tell you up front >that it really sounds like a lot of hocus pocus but I can tell you we >used it to clear my daughter for eggs and it worked beautifully. >Before NAET, she could not have eggs in any form but now she can. What >was interesting to me, was that once NAET cleared up her egg >intolerance, my daughter suddenly had no interest in eating eggs (she >used to love them). Strange, huh? Anyway, you could try NAET to >address some of the more troublesome allergies like almonds, which are >used so much on the SCD. The website I wrote above will have a >practitioner list for your area but you should really try to get a >recommendation for another parent, if you can. Like anything else, >there are good practitioners and bad ones. Good luck. > >Suzanne >Woodland Hills, CA > >On Feb 18, 2006, at 10:55 AM, mb12 valtrex wrote: > >> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:52:14 -0600 (CST) >> >> Subject: Re: Re: scd >> >> Does anyone else have a child allergic to all nuts (including almonds >> and everything in that family like peaches) except peanuts and they >> (the peanuts) are .205 on the IGg. Also allergies to eggs and still >> able to comply with the SCD diet? Also allergic to beef, food dyes, >> shell fish, and turkey is on the IGg .210. All of the allergies I >> talk about are scratch test allergies we HAVE to stay away from as >> well as all Dairy. Is there anything I can feed my child? Also keep >> in mind he doesn't eat many foods as it is. Anything new I would >> somehow have to force or hide. This is very frustrating. If he ate >> chicken and vegetables I would feed them for every meal but he wont >> touch either. Help! - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Hi Another one you may look into is Bioset which we have our own vials once we looked into this I muscle test my son on lots even when we started the Valtrex I tested him and he was weak I treated so his body could accept it better. I am on Day 22 and when I dressed him this morning he has a rash under his armpit I was kind of expecting it as he had high fevers mid week and no other symtoms. I was excited to see the rash I almost feel sick for getting so excited how strange this journey can be. > > > >> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:52:14 -0600 (CST) > >> > >> Subject: Re: Re: scd > >> > >> Does anyone else have a child allergic to all nuts (including almonds > >> and everything in that family like peaches) except peanuts and they > >> (the peanuts) are .205 on the IGg. Also allergies to eggs and still > >> able to comply with the SCD diet? Also allergic to beef, food dyes, > >> shell fish, and turkey is on the IGg .210. All of the allergies I > >> talk about are scratch test allergies we HAVE to stay away from as > >> well as all Dairy. Is there anything I can feed my child? Also keep > >> in mind he doesn't eat many foods as it is. Anything new I would > >> somehow have to force or hide. This is very frustrating. If he ate > >> chicken and vegetables I would feed them for every meal but he wont > >> touch either. Help! - > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 >isn't buffalo beef? Thanks, No, buffalo is another animal. Cows are beef, buffalo meat here in the U.S. is from Bison, the main staple that the Native American Indians used to eat. In other countries, their buffalo may be from water buffalo, which is yet another animal. But the nutrient content of bison meat is very good--high in minerals, especially if they are free-ranged. Bison meat tends to have a higher iron content and a lower cholesterol content than beef. Marla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Hello Suzanne, I totally disagree about SCD. I think it's quite easy and my son had 22 food markers including almonds. I'm just speaking generally for a moment, this is not directed directly to you Suzanne.... Some of the parents who have a tough time are having difficulty saying " no " to their child or keeping the bad things away from their child. Once you get strict with the diet, your child's bacterial and fungals levels will begin to change as will their cravings. If you go into it slowly it may be more difficult and the resistence may last longer because you are still feeding the critters that are causing the problems. Lastly, once you realize that the polysaccrites and disaccrites are toxic to your child, I don't see why we can't just stop giving them. If it were rat poison we wouldn't feed it to our child, but when we hear they are poisoning our child some people can't get past their old programming. Yes, all children are different and I respect the fact that some children will have a very difficult time, but typically what I wrote above my not specifically help anyone, but it seems to be the case quite often. Lastly, sometimes it takes some antifungals to get the cravings under control more quickly. Some bacterial dybiosis may be feeding the yeast and vice versa and you might have to be a little more proactive in getting the overgrowth under control. Some people see results in days from SCD, other's months. I think the IGG Foods being removed and using antifungals (at least early on) is a big help. - Stan > > > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:52:14 -0600 (CST) > > > > Subject: Re: Re: scd > > > > Does anyone else have a child allergic to all nuts (including almonds > > and everything in that family like peaches) except peanuts and they > > (the peanuts) are .205 on the IGg. Also allergies to eggs and still > > able to comply with the SCD diet? Also allergic to beef, food dyes, > > shell fish, and turkey is on the IGg .210. All of the allergies I > > talk about are scratch test allergies we HAVE to stay away from as > > well as all Dairy. Is there anything I can feed my child? Also keep > > in mind he doesn't eat many foods as it is. Anything new I would > > somehow have to force or hide. This is very frustrating. If he ate > > chicken and vegetables I would feed them for every meal but he wont > > touch either. Help! - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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