Re: Ridiculously restricted diet - help!

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started eating MUCH better with extra zinc. Definitely more variety of foods and also more energy. I am sure his taste buds were completely shot.

Thanks for your responses - in answer Jack has Optizinc 3 times a day, he has never really been a meat eater but used to have a little bit now and then but absolutely nothing now and will start soaking the lentils before cooking as have never done this before. Really starting to worry now as school keep mentioning that he is tired all the time, think this is AC related as he is up at around 5am most days. Marina xx

Marina, No other thoughts at the moment except try to soak the lentils for a couple of hours to get the phytates out. These will strip the body of trace elements. I only just found out about this. I eat a lot of rice and legumes, same thing applies....soak for a few hours....You used to see this direction on packages to soak but I notice it's not really on them anymore.

Hi All

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!! Any ideas anyone?

Marina xx

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Hi Marina,does he have adequate zinc levels? I ask because zinc depletion impairs your sense of taste and when everything tastes bland you tend to limit your diet based on things like the colour, shape or texture more than on flavour. The same is seen in people with anorexia, and often Zn supplementation can turn this around.Worth a thought.Ken Subject: Ridiculously restricted diet - help!To: "autism-biomedical-europe" <Autism-Biomedical-Europe >Date: Wednesday, 11

May, 2011, 11:31

Hi All

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!! Any ideas anyone?

Marina xx

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Hi  MarinaMy NT boys have always gone off food big time leading up to and during a period of growth... they return when they are ready.. With the protein thing.. since animal protein is so very difficult to digest.. requiring a lot of energy.. if a

 

Hi All

 

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

 

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

 

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!!  Any ideas anyone?

 

Marina xx

 

 

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Opps .. sent before finishing my thoughts... continues from Capital letters..Tracey

Hi  MarinaMy NT boys have always gone off food big time leading up to and during a period of growth... they return when they are ready.. With the protein thing.. since animal protein is so very difficult to digest.. requiring a lot of energy.. if aT THIS TIME HE IS needing to utilise available energy for other things.. such as healing, growing, neural development... then he may instinctively know that now is not the time for animal proteins...

Did this change happen after beginning TST? 

 

Hi All

 

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

 

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

 

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!!  Any ideas anyone?

 

Marina xx

 

 

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Marina, No other thoughts at the moment except try to soak the lentils for a couple of hours to get the phytates out. These will strip the body of trace elements. I only just found out about this. I eat a lot of rice and legumes, same thing applies....soak for a few hours....You used to see this direction on packages to soak but I notice it's not really on them anymore.

Hi All

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!! Any ideas anyone?

Marina xx

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Thanks for your responses - in answer Jack has Optizinc 3 times a day, he has never really been a meat eater but used to have a little bit now and then but absolutely nothing now and will start soaking the lentils before cooking as have never done this before.  Really starting to worry now as school keep mentioning that he is tired all the time, think this is AC related as he is up at around 5am most days.  Marina xx

 

Marina,  No other thoughts at the moment except try to soak the lentils for a couple of hours to get the phytates out. These will strip the body of trace elements. I only just found out about this. I eat a lot of rice and legumes, same thing applies....soak for a few hours....You used to see this direction on packages to soak but I notice it's not really on them anymore.

 

Hi All

 

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

 

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

 

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!!  Any ideas anyone?

 

Marina xx

 

 

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How much more can I give him? He is 37lbs and tiny for 8yrs old! Marina x

 

started eating MUCH better with extra zinc.  Definitely more variety of foods and also more energy. I am sure his taste buds were completely shot.

 

 

 

Thanks for your responses - in answer Jack has Optizinc 3 times a day, he has never really been a meat eater but used to have a little bit now and then but absolutely nothing now and will start soaking the lentils before cooking as have never done this before.  Really starting to worry now as school keep mentioning that he is tired all the time, think this is AC related as he is up at around 5am most days.  Marina xx

 

Marina,  No other thoughts at the moment except try to soak the lentils for a couple of hours to get the phytates out. These will strip the body of trace elements. I only just found out about this. I eat a lot of rice and legumes, same thing applies....soak for a few hours....You used to see this direction on packages to soak but I notice it's not really on them anymore.

 

Hi All

 

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

 

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

 

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!!  Any ideas anyone?

 

Marina xx

 

 

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Would he accept the soup if you made it with a base home-made meat and bone

stock?

Margaret

>

> Hi All

>

> Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack

> is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown

> rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce.

> He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars,

> cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO

> meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

>

> Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he

> stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before

> starting.

>

> It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which

> was very carby and limited then!! Any ideas anyone?

>

> Marina xx

>

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I could try, I did cook his pasta in the water from a boiled organic chicken carcass. How long do you simmer your stock for?

 

Marina x

 

Would he accept the soup if you made it with a base home-made meat and bone stock?Margaret

>> Hi All

> > Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack> is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown> rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce.

> He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars,> cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO> meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

> > Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he> stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before> starting.> > It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which

> was very carby and limited then!! Any ideas anyone?> > Marina xx>

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You should ideally have his levels checked and his Cu/Zn balance. Ken

Hi All

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!! Any ideas anyone?

Marina xx

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What type of test is this Ken?  Marina x

 

You should ideally have his levels checked and his Cu/Zn balance. 

Ken

 

Hi All

 

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

 

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

 

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!!  Any ideas anyone?

 

Marina xx

 

 

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Marina,Up at 5Am is a good indicator of high cortisol. High cortisol suppresses appetite. So....decrease high cortisol by decreasing any sources of stress 1) exercise ( I know hard to do if tired :-)2) improve gut function as unbalanced flora creates oxidative stress...3) look into thyroid4) look into supporting adrenals5) try Epsom salt baths to induce calm6) balance blood sugars which is hard to do because of present eating habits but that would be a long term goal7) INcrease zinc normally but I see you are giving him enough... I think you should give a little copper in there.

Hi All

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!! Any ideas anyone?

Marina xx

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Dear Marina,

We found digestive enzymes (and patience and persistence) helped significantly.

Also helping in food preparation (slicing and dehydrating bananas) helped quite

a bit. Smell, colour, texture and unfamiliarity were also issues so a chance to

get more familiar (rather than the pressure of having to eat something new)

might have helped?

There was an amazing post quite a long time ago about getting a boy to eat new

foods (does anyone remember?) - it was great - they avoided asking him to eat it

and did things like sitting and playing with food, making patterns etc. I wish

I could find the post.

Best wishes, Sandy

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Hi - see below! Marina

 

Marina,Up at 5Am is a good indicator of high cortisol. High cortisol suppresses appetite. So....decrease high cortisol by decreasing any sources of stress 1) exercise ( I know hard to do if tired :-)  He barely ever sits down and we walk the dog every day for about 2 miles

2) improve gut function as unbalanced flora creates oxidative stress... lots of pro bios etc usual in biomed3) look into thyroid - cant get his basal temperatures as he wont let me put thermometer under his arm!!

4) look into supporting adrenals - has ACE 2 caps in morn and two in afternoon5) try Epsom salt baths to induce calm - every night on round and every other off round

6) balance blood sugars which is hard to do because of present eating habits but that would be   a long term goal7) INcrease zinc normally but I see you are giving him enough... I think you should give a little copper in there. will speak to sue

 

Hi All

 

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

 

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

 

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!!  Any ideas anyone?

 

Marina xx

 

 

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Hi Sandy - Jack is on Tri-enza and does well on it, I have got him in the kitchen helping to pour and slice things which he really enjoys, recently did some juicing and he did take one sip of the results!! Bit hard on such a restricted diet as I cant get him to help on foods that he cant eat at the end of it!! Think I need to order some more stuff from goodness direct/dietary needs and start baking again which he loves.  Marina x

 

Dear Marina,We found digestive enzymes (and patience and persistence) helped significantly.Also helping in food preparation (slicing and dehydrating bananas) helped quite a bit. Smell, colour, texture and unfamiliarity were also issues so a chance to get more familiar (rather than the pressure of having to eat something new) might have helped?

There was an amazing post quite a long time ago about getting a boy to eat new foods (does anyone remember?) - it was great - they avoided asking him to eat it and did things like sitting and playing with food, making patterns etc. I wish I could find the post.

Best wishes, Sandy

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Would anyone suggest removing the pasta and soup ingredients for a few days from the house as he just gets them out of the cupboard to let you know what he wants to eat??? Dont like the idea of starving him but am at a loss as to what to do.  He has also starting requesting one of the limited choices he makes waits while you cook or prepare it and then doesnt want it???? Marina x

Hi Sandy - Jack is on Tri-enza and does well on it, I have got him in the kitchen helping to pour and slice things which he really enjoys, recently did some juicing and he did take one sip of the results!! Bit hard on such a restricted diet as I cant get him to help on foods that he cant eat at the end of it!! Think I need to order some more stuff from goodness direct/dietary needs and start baking again which he loves.  Marina x

 

Dear Marina,We found digestive enzymes (and patience and persistence) helped significantly.Also helping in food preparation (slicing and dehydrating bananas) helped quite a bit. Smell, colour, texture and unfamiliarity were also issues so a chance to get more familiar (rather than the pressure of having to eat something new) might have helped?

There was an amazing post quite a long time ago about getting a boy to eat new foods (does anyone remember?) - it was great - they avoided asking him to eat it and did things like sitting and playing with food, making patterns etc. I wish I could find the post.

Best wishes, Sandy

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You have many bases covered:-)Ok hmmm....back to controlling sugar levels without regular meal times. Apparently 1 teas of cinnamon is supposed to regulate them for an entire day. Can you integrate that somewhere along the line even in a capsule?I wonder though about the thyroid...Have you done any work-ups on the gut lately?

Hi All

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!! Any ideas anyone?

Marina xx

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Hi

 

I can get Jack to take practically anything off a medicine spoon thank God so could get cinnamon into him, does the thyroid run in families? any point in checking it on my NT son as a guide?

 

Sorry to sound thick but what do you mean when you say 'gut work ups'?

 

Marina x

 

You have many bases covered:-)Ok  hmmm....back to controlling sugar levels without regular meal times. Apparently 1 teas of cinnamon is supposed to regulate them for an entire day. Can you integrate that somewhere along the line even in a capsule?

I wonder though about the thyroid...Have you done any work-ups on the gut lately?

 

Hi All

 

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

 

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

 

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!!  Any ideas anyone?

 

Marina xx

 

 

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Marina,The best way to test for thyroid is the underarm test. I don't think you'll gain anything by checking NT son. By gut work-up I mean stool test for gut flora/parasites etc., short chain fatty acids An imbalance will induce oxidative stress.

Hi All

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!! Any ideas anyone?

Marina xx

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Hi Marina - this is the ratio of serum copper to serum zinc. There has been a fair bit done on this by the Pfeiffer Institute in the US.Her is a bit of what I wrote about the SCD in the diet book:"It is very restrictive and difficult to follow the SCD if you are unclear about the theory. You need to familiarize yourself with the ideas before trying to implement the diet as, otherwise, it is easy to make mistakes.

The introductory diet relies heavily on chicken and eggs (this may pose practical problems if there are food allergies/hypersensitivities). As nuts and nut flours are extensively used, this may elevate serum copper levels. This is possibly problematic as elevated copper is a distinctive feature of ASD. There is some evidence that people with ASD have lowered levels of ceruloplasmin, the compound that binds copper and removes it from plasma (Chauhan et al. 2004), and that this is critically related to oxidative stress in ASD (Chauhan and Chauhan 2006). As elevation can be linked to challenging behaviour (Walsh et al. 1997), and also to clinical disorders such as’s disease where the elevated copper levels can damage both liver and the CNS (Das and Ray 2006), it is important that this aspect of a SCD is carefully

monitored. There is some variation in this finding across other studies, with some groups failing to find similar group differences (Torsdottir et al. 2005)."Hope his helps,Ken

Hi All

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!! Any ideas anyone?

Marina xx

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Hi Sandy There was an episode of the programme which Prof Tania Bryers hosted ( can't remember the series name- children with challenging behaviours and their parents moved into the house for a week and were observed?  where there were some really fussy eaters and she did something like this with them.. and I think there may also have been something about food phobias on another programme too. which did the same..

Tracey

 

Would anyone suggest removing the pasta and soup ingredients for a few days from the house as he just gets them out of the cupboard to let you know what he wants to eat??? Dont like the idea of starving him but am at a loss as to what to do.  He has also starting requesting one of the limited choices he makes waits while you cook or prepare it and then doesnt want it???? Marina x

Hi Sandy - Jack is on Tri-enza and does well on it, I have got him in the kitchen helping to pour and slice things which he really enjoys, recently did some juicing and he did take one sip of the results!! Bit hard on such a restricted diet as I cant get him to help on foods that he cant eat at the end of it!! Think I need to order some more stuff from goodness direct/dietary needs and start baking again which he loves.  Marina x

 

Dear Marina,We found digestive enzymes (and patience and persistence) helped significantly.Also helping in food preparation (slicing and dehydrating bananas) helped quite a bit. Smell, colour, texture and unfamiliarity were also issues so a chance to get more familiar (rather than the pressure of having to eat something new) might have helped?

There was an amazing post quite a long time ago about getting a boy to eat new foods (does anyone remember?) - it was great - they avoided asking him to eat it and did things like sitting and playing with food, making patterns etc. I wish I could find the post.

Best wishes, Sandy

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Marinathe more we make food an issue the more it becomes a problem... I took all food of my NT at three to encourage him to try fruit and veg.. He refused to eat anything for three days... looked so ill and I gave in.. which was probably the worst thing I have done.. On reflection I should have made it more fun to play and experiment with new foods.. starting by simply letting him touch and feel the food... At thirteen now he still does not do fruit or veg.. other than in a soup... 

Best WishesTracey

 

Would anyone suggest removing the pasta and soup ingredients for a few days from the house as he just gets them out of the cupboard to let you know what he wants to eat??? Dont like the idea of starving him but am at a loss as to what to do.  He has also starting requesting one of the limited choices he makes waits while you cook or prepare it and then doesnt want it???? Marina x

Hi Sandy - Jack is on Tri-enza and does well on it, I have got him in the kitchen helping to pour and slice things which he really enjoys, recently did some juicing and he did take one sip of the results!! Bit hard on such a restricted diet as I cant get him to help on foods that he cant eat at the end of it!! Think I need to order some more stuff from goodness direct/dietary needs and start baking again which he loves.  Marina x

 

Dear Marina,We found digestive enzymes (and patience and persistence) helped significantly.Also helping in food preparation (slicing and dehydrating bananas) helped quite a bit. Smell, colour, texture and unfamiliarity were also issues so a chance to get more familiar (rather than the pressure of having to eat something new) might have helped?

There was an amazing post quite a long time ago about getting a boy to eat new foods (does anyone remember?) - it was great - they avoided asking him to eat it and did things like sitting and playing with food, making patterns etc. I wish I could find the post.

Best wishes, Sandy

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Hi Ken//

 

Jack is under Sue so gut issues are always kept in check, everytime i put the thermometer while awake he giggles like mad and pulls and away and even before waking he is such a light sleeper he wakes immediately and throws it!!

 

SCD isnt an option for Jack at present as part of the problem is he wont touch anything other than what i originally listed, doesnt get any 'bad' foods as such but just sooooo limited!

 

Will encourage more play and cooking and see if that helps, think his mind may just be 'stuck' on these foods????

 

Marina x

 

Marina,The best way to test for thyroid is the underarm test. I don't think you'll gain anything by checking NT son. By gut work-up I mean stool test for gut flora/parasites etc., short chain fatty acids  An imbalance will induce oxidative stress.

 

Hi All

 

Don't know if anyone else has had phases of this (hope it is a phase) Jack is now down to two dinners only, one is a soup made with lentils and brown rice and the other is his GF/CF brown rice pasta with a tomato based sauce. He is still snacking on things like popadums, plain crisps, naked bars, cashew nuts, cucumber, water melon, occassional chips, apple and grapes. NO meat at all now. Oh and freshly squeezed lemon juice straight!??

 

Was starting to think something to do with chelation but looking at diary he stopped eating shepherds pie and roast potatoes about 10 days before starting.

 

It has been weeks now and no signs of going back to his previous diet which was very carby and limited then!!  Any ideas anyone?

 

Marina xx

 

 

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Wasn't it the one called Freaky Eaters who had a real fear of things like toast etc???

 

Hi Sandy 

There was an episode of the programme which Prof Tania Bryers hosted ( can't remember the series name- children with challenging behaviours and their parents moved into the house for a week and were observed?  where there were some really fussy eaters and she did something like this with them.. and I think there may also have been something about food phobias on another programme too. which did the same..

Tracey

 

Would anyone suggest removing the pasta and soup ingredients for a few days from the house as he just gets them out of the cupboard to let you know what he wants to eat??? Dont like the idea of starving him but am at a loss as to what to do.  He has also starting requesting one of the limited choices he makes waits while you cook or prepare it and then doesnt want it???? Marina x

Hi Sandy - Jack is on Tri-enza and does well on it, I have got him in the kitchen helping to pour and slice things which he really enjoys, recently did some juicing and he did take one sip of the results!! Bit hard on such a restricted diet as I cant get him to help on foods that he cant eat at the end of it!! Think I need to order some more stuff from goodness direct/dietary needs and start baking again which he loves.  Marina x

 

Dear Marina,We found digestive enzymes (and patience and persistence) helped significantly.Also helping in food preparation (slicing and dehydrating bananas) helped quite a bit. Smell, colour, texture and unfamiliarity were also issues so a chance to get more familiar (rather than the pressure of having to eat something new) might have helped?

There was an amazing post quite a long time ago about getting a boy to eat new foods (does anyone remember?) - it was great - they avoided asking him to eat it and did things like sitting and playing with food, making patterns etc. I wish I could find the post.

Best wishes, Sandy

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Hi Marina

I use bribery all the way here with Harry, i dont give him a choice of what he is having for lunch and dinner only at breakfast he had a choice of three things and he has to eat what he gets given and there are times when i think pulling teeth would be easier, i always find i can bribe him with something nice, normally a piece of homebaked cake of a plate just out of reach but not out of sight if you get my meaning, sometimes i have to resort back to giving him a "reward" after every mouthful and then i can uo to every 2 mouthfuls etc, the main thing with Harry is he is a slow eater and easily distracted and also very very lazy and would rather i feed him each time which i must admit i do do but just because he would still be sat there after an hour and a half with still half a plate of food.

HTH

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To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: thelifechangers@...Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 14:18:33 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Ridiculously restricted diet - help!

Marina

the more we make food an issue the more it becomes a problem... I took all food of my NT at three to encourage him to try fruit and veg.. He refused to eat anything for three days... looked so ill and I gave in.. which was probably the worst thing I have done.. On reflection I should have made it more fun to play and experiment with new foods.. starting by simply letting him touch and feel the food... At thirteen now he still does not do fruit or veg.. other than in a soup...

Best Wishes

Tracey

Would anyone suggest removing the pasta and soup ingredients for a few days from the house as he just gets them out of the cupboard to let you know what he wants to eat??? Dont like the idea of starving him but am at a loss as to what to do. He has also starting requesting one of the limited choices he makes waits while you cook or prepare it and then doesnt want it???? Marina x

Hi Sandy - Jack is on Tri-enza and does well on it, I have got him in the kitchen helping to pour and slice things which he really enjoys, recently did some juicing and he did take one sip of the results!! Bit hard on such a restricted diet as I cant get him to help on foods that he cant eat at the end of it!! Think I need to order some more stuff from goodness direct/dietary needs and start baking again which he loves. Marina x

Dear Marina,We found digestive enzymes (and patience and persistence) helped significantly.Also helping in food preparation (slicing and dehydrating bananas) helped quite a bit. Smell, colour, texture and unfamiliarity were also issues so a chance to get more familiar (rather than the pressure of having to eat something new) might have helped?There was an amazing post quite a long time ago about getting a boy to eat new foods (does anyone remember?) - it was great - they avoided asking him to eat it and did things like sitting and playing with food, making patterns etc. I wish I could find the post.Best wishes, Sandy