Mold Monster! [was: hell in a handbasket]

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scary, isn't it?

I still think the worst offender is " mold expert Fry " . check

out the MOLD MONSTER at their website: http://www.moldinspector.com/

the array of " certifications " available through this bunch is

staggering! and the fact that anyone has actually signed up and PAID

FOR this #!%$ is amazing.

sheesh!

Wane

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Wane A. Baker, P.E., CIH, RPIH

Director, Air Quality Services

" Bad air gets you down "

MICHAELS ENGINEERING INC.

811 Monitor Street, Suite 100

PO Box 2377

La Crosse, Wisconsin 54602

Phone , ext. 484

Cell

Fax

mailto:wab@...

On the web at: http://www.michaelsengineering.com

" To love what you do and feel that it matters - how could anything be

more fun? "

- Graham

> Everyone-

>

> I've been following these sites ( http://www.healtharticles.org

> http://www.getmoldsolutions.com )

>

> for quite some time now and feel it has gotten completely out of

control.

>

> Especially be sure to look at the " black mold cleaner " with the 100

%

>

> guarantee (I smell FIFRA violations), the HEPA air cleaner that is

certified

>

>

> by the " California Environmental Protection Agency " (there's even

a

>

> pic of the certificate!) Oh - and don't forget the " airborne mold

test "

>

> where you wave a swab around in the air for 3 minutes. I just

can't take

>

> anymore! You EPA people out there need to check this out. Scary

stuff.

>

> Late Night Regards,

>

> Stacey Champion

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Wow, does that come with 3D glasses for a real life jump at you effect??? Sad Stuff...."Wane A. Baker" wrote:

scary, isn't it? I still think the worst offender is "mold expert Fry". check out the MOLD MONSTER at their website: http://www.moldinspector.com/the array of "certifications" available through this bunch is staggering! and the fact that anyone has actually signed up and PAID FOR this #!%$ is amazing. sheesh!Wane<><><><><><><><><><><><>Wane A. Baker, P.E., CIH, RPIHDirector, Air Quality Services"Bad air gets you down"MICHAELS ENGINEERING INC.811 Monitor Street, Suite 100PO Box 2377 La Crosse, Wisconsin 54602Phone , ext. 484Cell Fax

mailto:wab@...On the web at: http://www.michaelsengineering.com "To love what you do and feel that it matters - how could anything be more fun?" - Graham> Everyone-> > I've been following these sites ( http://www.healtharticles.org> http://www.getmoldsolutions.com )> > for quite some time now and feel it has gotten completely out of control. > > Especially be sure to look at the "black mold cleaner" with the 100 %> > guarantee (I smell FIFRA violations), the HEPA air cleaner that is certified> > > by the "California Environmental Protection Agency"

(there's even a > > pic of the certificate!) Oh - and don't forget the "airborne mold test" > > where you wave a swab around in the air for 3 minutes. I just can't take> > anymore! You EPA people out there need to check this out. Scary stuff.> > Late Night Regards,> > Stacey Champion FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed

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Not that scary to me but yes different. I have seen even the most qualified CIHs come up with some pretty outlandish and costly ways to deal with mold Wane wether cleanup, remediation, codes or anything for that matter.

Shane

Mold Monster! [was: hell in a handbasket]

scary, isn't it? I still think the worst offender is "mold expert Fry". check out the MOLD MONSTER at their website: http://www.moldinspector.com/the array of "certifications" available through this bunch is staggering! and the fact that anyone has actually signed up and PAID FOR this #!%$ is amazing. sheesh!Wane<><><><><><><><><><><><>Wane A. Baker, P.E., CIH, RPIHDirector, Air Quality Services"Bad air gets you down"MICHAELS ENGINEERING INC.811 Monitor Street, Suite 100PO Box 2377 La Crosse, Wisconsin 54602Phone , ext. 484Cell Fax mailto:wab@...On the web at: http://www.michaelsengineering.com "To love what you do and feel that it matters - how could anything be more fun?" - Graham> Everyone-> > I've been following these sites ( http://www.healtharticles.org> http://www.getmoldsolutions.com )> > for quite some time now and feel it has gotten completely out of control. > > Especially be sure to look at the "black mold cleaner" with the 100 %> > guarantee (I smell FIFRA violations), the HEPA air cleaner that is certified> > > by the "California Environmental Protection Agency" (there's even a > > pic of the certificate!) Oh - and don't forget the "airborne mold test" > > where you wave a swab around in the air for 3 minutes. I just can't take> > anymore! You EPA people out there need to check this out. Scary stuff.> > Late Night Regards,> > Stacey Champion FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

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besides, who and what authority makes a persons way of dealing with mold better or proper then anothers?

Mold Monster! [was: hell in a handbasket]

scary, isn't it? I still think the worst offender is "mold expert Fry". check out the MOLD MONSTER at their website: http://www.moldinspector.com/the array of "certifications" available through this bunch is staggering! and the fact that anyone has actually signed up and PAID FOR this #!%$ is amazing. sheesh!Wane<><><><><><><><><><><><>Wane A. Baker, P.E., CIH, RPIHDirector, Air Quality Services"Bad air gets you down"MICHAELS ENGINEERING INC.811 Monitor Street, Suite 100PO Box 2377 La Crosse, Wisconsin 54602Phone , ext. 484Cell Fax mailto:wab@...On the web at: http://www.michaelsengineering.com "To love what you do and feel that it matters - how could anything be more fun?" - Graham> Everyone-> > I've been following these sites ( http://www.healtharticles.org> http://www.getmoldsolutions.com )> > for quite some time now and feel it has gotten completely out of control. > > Especially be sure to look at the "black mold cleaner" with the 100 %> > guarantee (I smell FIFRA violations), the HEPA air cleaner that is certified> > > by the "California Environmental Protection Agency" (there's even a > > pic of the certificate!) Oh - and don't forget the "airborne mold test" > > where you wave a swab around in the air for 3 minutes. I just can't take> > anymore! You EPA people out there need to check this out. Scary stuff.> > Late Night Regards,> > Stacey Champion FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

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here we go again with the CIH bashing.

using your own words: how could anyone (CIH or not) who

prescribes " outlandish " and " costly " measures be " the most

qualified " ?

Shane, you've clearly made this issue your personal quest. based on

our previous off-list communications, I have some understanding of

your history. I'm very sorry that your experience with another (or

others) in my chosen profession was distasteful. but please stop

lumping us all together.

you've been spreading your slanderous message on this list and on the

previous IAQ list for many, many months. please knock it off.

have you actually looked at Fry's website? do you really believe

it's anything but a get-rich-quick scheme? did you happen to notice

that they're incorporated in Belize?!?

in our firm, we apply truly diligent efforts to remain current with a

range of technical publications. we're also active in the AIHA,

ASHRAE, ASM and ISIAQ. we've combined the true professional-level

credentials (licensed professional engineers and certified industrial

hygienist), and support those people with an in-house graduate

microbiologist.

do you suppose some $1.69 " certification " from Fry's group is going

to yield the same type of expertise? do you really think that

attending his class is going to arm neophytes with the broad-based

technical background that's needed to understand and address damp

buildings in a cost-effective manner? I think not!

the so-called expert that Stacey recently brought to our attention is

also quite obviously a snake oil salesman.

how can you possibly defend these guys?

I'd like to suggest that you re-read the column I authored on the

subject of mold certifications, which was published in the July 2004

issue of Wisconsin Builder magazine; see:

http://www.wibuilder.com/hatsoff/construction-corner.html

Wane

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Wane A. Baker, P.E., CIH, RPIH

Director, Air Quality Services

" Bad air gets you down "

MICHAELS ENGINEERING INC.

811 Monitor Street, Suite 100

PO Box 2377

La Crosse, Wisconsin 54602

Phone , ext. 484

Cell

Fax

mailto:wab@...

On the web at: http://www.michaelsengineering.com

" To love what you do and feel that it matters - how could anything be

more fun? "

- Graham

-- In iequality , " Shane M. " <bgcgalt@c...> wrote:

> besides, who and what authority makes a persons way of dealing with

mold better or proper then anothers?

> Mold Monster! [was: hell in a handbasket]

>

>

>

>

> scary, isn't it?

>

> I still think the worst offender is " mold expert Fry " .

check

> out the MOLD MONSTER at their website:

http://www.moldinspector.com/

>

> the array of " certifications " available through this bunch is

> staggering! and the fact that anyone has actually signed up

and PAID

> FOR this #!%$ is amazing.

>

> sheesh!

>

> Wane

>

> <><><><><><><><><><><><>

> Wane A. Baker, P.E., CIH, RPIH

> Director, Air Quality Services

> " Bad air gets you down "

> MICHAELS ENGINEERING INC.

> 811 Monitor Street, Suite 100

> PO Box 2377

> La Crosse, Wisconsin 54602

>

> Phone , ext. 484

> Cell

> Fax

>

> mailto:wab@m...

> On the web at: http://www.michaelsengineering.com

>

> " To love what you do and feel that it matters - how could

anything be

> more fun? "

> - Graham

>

>

>

> > Everyone-

> >

> > I've been following these sites (

http://www.healtharticles.org

> > http://www.getmoldsolutions.com )

> >

> > for quite some time now and feel it has gotten completely out

of

> control.