Re: with chelating while on valtrex

[Guest guest]

Hello R,

I never had to chelate my son. He WAS mercury impaired, but it seems that

Vatlrex, diet

and some vitamins and supplements did the trick.

Oral DMSA can feed yeast. It has sulfur in it. This is why people try to stay

away from oral

DMSA. Valtrex can kick up yeast as we've seen, so doing both is probably an

added risk.

Additionally, I would NOT use metals detox agents during the healing regression.

Lastly,

DMSA and Valtrex have the tendency to lower white blood cell count (as do

viruses, for

example). So, if you were going to have them both onboard at the same time, I

would

make sure your doctor is in the loop and testing your child's wbc and liver

enzymes just to

be safe.

- Stan

>

> Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with oral

> dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son? Also, my

> doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the days that

> we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think this is

> to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is there a

> place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your child? I

> would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You seem

> very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can. By the

> way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying one!!

> Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello R,

I wanted to comment on your doctor's advice to not give vitamins and

minerals on chelation days. I think this is very bad advice. For

one thing, chelators cannot touch the vitamins, but chelating makes

additional demands on the body which require additional vitamins,

particularly the antioxidant ones. Chelation also demands more

minerals, and if you are going to chelate for three days in a row,

for example, your child's body will be seriously depleted of

minerals.

This is something you may want to investigate further. Perhaps

read some reports from adults who have chelated, and you will see

that proper supplementation is imperative.

Also, although I'd chelated my son for approximately 20 rounds

already, when I started him on a viral protocol (not Valtrex, but

virastop, OLE, and lauricidin) it was very hard on him. I would not

recommend to anyone to start these two things at the same time. If

you want to do both, implement one and make sure you are very

comfortable with it before starting the other and then consider

going at a slower pace/lower doses than people who are only doing

one. Here, our viral protocol kicked up FAR FAR more yeast than

oral DMSA/ALA ever have. There was no comparison. Be sure you have

a good yeast protocol in place.

Best wishes,

Anita

>

> Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with

oral

> dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son? Also,

my

> doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the days

that

> we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think

this is

> to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is there a

> place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your

child? I

> would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You

seem

> very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can. By

the

> way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying one!!

> Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

>

[Guest guest]

We are going to do the chelation every other day.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 4:53 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: with chelating while on valtrexHello R,I wanted to comment on your doctor's advice to not give vitamins and minerals on chelation days. I think this is very bad advice. For one thing, chelators cannot touch the vitamins, but chelating makes additional demands on the body which require additional vitamins, particularly the antioxidant ones. Chelation also demands more minerals, and if you are going to chelate for three days in a row, for example, your child's body will be seriously depleted of minerals. This is something you may want to investigate further. Perhaps read some reports from adults who have chelated, and you will see that proper supplementation is imperative.Also, although I'd chelated my son for approximately 20 rounds already, when I started him on a viral protocol (not Valtrex, but virastop, OLE, and lauricidin) it was very hard on him. I would not recommend to anyone to start these two things at the same time. If you want to do both, implement one and make sure you are very comfortable with it before starting the other and then consider going at a slower pace/lower doses than people who are only doing one. Here, our viral protocol kicked up FAR FAR more yeast than oral DMSA/ALA ever have. There was no comparison. Be sure you have a good yeast protocol in place.Best wishes,Anita>> Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with oral > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son? Also, my > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the days that > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think this is > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is there a > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your child? I > would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You seem > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can. By the > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying one!! > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.>

[Guest guest]

Did your son only have mercury? Or did he have other metals to? How long did it take to get him recovered? Thanks, R.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Stan KurtzSent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 4:40 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: with chelating while on valtrexHello R,I never had to chelate my son. He WAS mercury impaired, but it seems that Vatlrex, diet and some vitamins and supplements did the trick.Oral DMSA can feed yeast. It has sulfur in it. This is why people try to stay away from oral DMSA. Valtrex can kick up yeast as we've seen, so doing both is probably an added risk.Additionally, I would NOT use metals detox agents during the healing regression. Lastly, DMSA and Valtrex have the tendency to lower white blood cell count (as do viruses, for example). So, if you were going to have them both onboard at the same time, I would make sure your doctor is in the loop and testing your child's wbc and liver enzymes just to be safe.- Stan>> Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with oral > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son? Also, my > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the days that > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think this is > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is there a > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your child? I > would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You seem > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can. By the > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying one!! > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.>

[Guest guest]

I'm curious. What chelation agent will you be using?

- Stan

>

> We are going to do the chelation every other day.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On

[Guest guest]

oral dmsa

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Stan KurtzSent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 5:52 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: with chelating while on valtrexI'm curious. What chelation agent will you be using?- Stan>> We are going to do the chelation every other day.> -----Original Message-----> From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

His first diagnosis was at about 20 months. His last formal autism diagnosis

was June of

2004 (age 3). We started biomed around the same time (after about 7 months of

research)

starting with testing, diet, vitamins and supplements per the test results and

improving

the diet based on test results and learning more about bacteria and fungus.

(We started GF/CF and then moved to SCD less IGG Food allergies. This was

across a three

month learning curve about how GF/CF typically grows more fungus and bacteria

based on

replacing casein with rice and other complex sugars).

I'm guessing at the next set of dates because I don't have all my videos in

front of me but

somewhere around August we started Valtrex and 21 days later he was dramatically

improved. He was acting pretty much like a typical kid who had his head frozen

for awhile

and missed out on learning... rather than an autistic child. His autistic

looking behaviors

seemed gone. He progressed quickly for about 9 months... plataued for a few

weeks and

that's when we decided to take him off the Valtrex and he continued to develop

from

there.

You can see Ethan's Recovery on www.recoveryvideos.com

I have so much video of before and after on Ethan. I'll be publishing more soon

so people

can see where he is today as he approaches 5 years old in June.

Valtrex, especially on paper, is a lot more benign than metals detox IMO... and

in most

people's opinion. I've also seen many metals detox kids who do better and even

" recover "

but still have stimmy autistic signs... that bothered me. I also tried DMSA

myself, one

round, and I felt like I wanted to kill myself.

I always try what I am going to give my son, on myself. I think it's only fair.

That's what caused me to think about antivirals before metals detox and I'm

quite glad I

did because we never had to use a metals detox agent.

I'm not judging anyone's decision, I'm just telling our story and my beliefs. I

like using

most productive and least invasive methods first before taking greater risk.

That's why I

started with Valtrex and thankfully I never had to put a metals detox agent in

my child.

I know you're just getting started in our group and I can certainly remember

what it was

like getting up to speed. I don't want to come off as imposing my views on you.

I respect

any parent's decision and almost all views and approaches are welcome here (I

don't want

to say all... just in case) so don't think I judge all that much... I'm

just sharing my

experience and view so that I know at least the information is out there. I

would have

wanted that when I was getting up to speed.

- Stan

> >

> > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with oral

> > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son? Also, my

> > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the days that

> > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think this is

> > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is there a

> > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your child? I

> > would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You seem

> > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can. By the

> > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying one!!

> > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not a metals detox expert, but I've never heard of a every other day Oral

DMSA

protocol. Usually it's 2 days on and 11 or 12 off for the body to catch up.

Also, be very careful of yeast when using oral DMSA. Candida itself can cause

autism and

Oral DMSA can feed candida. I would hope that the doctor at least prescribes an

antifungal (like Diflucan or Amphotericin B.... not Nystatin, IMO) and

probiotics if you are

trying DMSA.

You may also want to get an OATS urine test now (Great Plains or Doctors Data)

and again

after a month on DMSA to see how you are doing with yeast and bacteria... and

metabolic

function.

Again, not an expert on this, but I think these are sensible suggestions if you

are going to

do metals detox first.

- Stan

> >

> > We are going to do the chelation every other day.

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: mb12 valtrex

> [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm getting the impression that perhaps you're not interested in the

opinion of someone who is not an MD on this matter of chelation, but

I would strongly encourage you to research the advice of your

doctor. I've read many negative reports from people who have used

the kind of chelation protocol you are being advised to use. An

every other day dosing of DMSA does not take into account the half

life of the chelator. Every other day dosing of vitamins and

minerals does not take into account that chelators cannot touch

vitamins, that chelation causes oxidative stress, and that the body

can only absorb so many vitamins (particularly the water soluble

ones) and minerals at once. Again, I would encourage you to read

some reports from people who have chelated using protocols similar

to the one you're describing before you choose to use this one for

your child.

Anita

> >

> > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with

> oral

> > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son?

Also,

> my

> > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the

days

> that

> > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think

> this is

> > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is

there a

> > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your

> child? I

> > would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You

> seem

> > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can.

By

> the

> > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying

one!!

> > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What a blessing to have your son recovered so quickly and even at all. Thanks for all your info and time. R.

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Stan KurtzSent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:21 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: with chelating while on valtrexHi ,His first diagnosis was at about 20 months. His last formal autism diagnosis was June of 2004 (age 3). We started biomed around the same time (after about 7 months of research) starting with testing, diet, vitamins and supplements per the test results and improving the diet based on test results and learning more about bacteria and fungus. (We started GF/CF and then moved to SCD less IGG Food allergies. This was across a three month learning curve about how GF/CF typically grows more fungus and bacteria based on replacing casein with rice and other complex sugars).I'm guessing at the next set of dates because I don't have all my videos in front of me but somewhere around August we started Valtrex and 21 days later he was dramatically improved. He was acting pretty much like a typical kid who had his head frozen for awhile and missed out on learning... rather than an autistic child. His autistic looking behaviors seemed gone. He progressed quickly for about 9 months... plataued for a few weeks and that's when we decided to take him off the Valtrex and he continued to develop from there. You can see Ethan's Recovery on www.recoveryvideos.comI have so much video of before and after on Ethan. I'll be publishing more soon so people can see where he is today as he approaches 5 years old in June.Valtrex, especially on paper, is a lot more benign than metals detox IMO... and in most people's opinion. I've also seen many metals detox kids who do better and even "recover" but still have stimmy autistic signs... that bothered me. I also tried DMSA myself, one round, and I felt like I wanted to kill myself. I always try what I am going to give my son, on myself. I think it's only fair. That's what caused me to think about antivirals before metals detox and I'm quite glad I did because we never had to use a metals detox agent.I'm not judging anyone's decision, I'm just telling our story and my beliefs. I like using most productive and least invasive methods first before taking greater risk. That's why I started with Valtrex and thankfully I never had to put a metals detox agent in my child.I know you're just getting started in our group and I can certainly remember what it was like getting up to speed. I don't want to come off as imposing my views on you. I respect any parent's decision and almost all views and approaches are welcome here (I don't want to say all... just in case) so don't think I judge all that much... I'm just sharing my experience and view so that I know at least the information is out there. I would have wanted that when I was getting up to speed.- Stan > >> > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with oral> > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son? Also, my> > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the days that> > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think this is> > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is there a> > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your child? I> > would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You seem> > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can. By the> > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying one!!> > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.> >> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

how long was your son on the scd diet? Is he still on the diet? What kind of supplements did you use?

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Stan KurtzSent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:21 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: with chelating while on valtrexHi ,His first diagnosis was at about 20 months. His last formal autism diagnosis was June of 2004 (age 3). We started biomed around the same time (after about 7 months of research) starting with testing, diet, vitamins and supplements per the test results and improving the diet based on test results and learning more about bacteria and fungus. (We started GF/CF and then moved to SCD less IGG Food allergies. This was across a three month learning curve about how GF/CF typically grows more fungus and bacteria based on replacing casein with rice and other complex sugars).I'm guessing at the next set of dates because I don't have all my videos in front of me but somewhere around August we started Valtrex and 21 days later he was dramatically improved. He was acting pretty much like a typical kid who had his head frozen for awhile and missed out on learning... rather than an autistic child. His autistic looking behaviors seemed gone. He progressed quickly for about 9 months... plataued for a few weeks and that's when we decided to take him off the Valtrex and he continued to develop from there. You can see Ethan's Recovery on www.recoveryvideos.comI have so much video of before and after on Ethan. I'll be publishing more soon so people can see where he is today as he approaches 5 years old in June.Valtrex, especially on paper, is a lot more benign than metals detox IMO... and in most people's opinion. I've also seen many metals detox kids who do better and even "recover" but still have stimmy autistic signs... that bothered me. I also tried DMSA myself, one round, and I felt like I wanted to kill myself. I always try what I am going to give my son, on myself. I think it's only fair. That's what caused me to think about antivirals before metals detox and I'm quite glad I did because we never had to use a metals detox agent.I'm not judging anyone's decision, I'm just telling our story and my beliefs. I like using most productive and least invasive methods first before taking greater risk. That's why I started with Valtrex and thankfully I never had to put a metals detox agent in my child.I know you're just getting started in our group and I can certainly remember what it was like getting up to speed. I don't want to come off as imposing my views on you. I respect any parent's decision and almost all views and approaches are welcome here (I don't want to say all... just in case) so don't think I judge all that much... I'm just sharing my experience and view so that I know at least the information is out there. I would have wanted that when I was getting up to speed.- Stan > >> > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with oral> > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son? Also, my> > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the days that> > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think this is> > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is there a> > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your child? I> > would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You seem> > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can. By the> > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying one!!> > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.> >> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the advise! That is why I joined this grop!!!!!!!! SO are you saying that the everyother day of chelation isnt good or the everyother day of vitamins is not good. I want opinions from whoever will give them, that is why I joined this group. Thanks for the help! Also, is candex a good thing for yeast?

-----Original Message-----From: mb12 valtrex [mailto:mb12 valtrex ]On Behalf Of Anita KugelstadtSent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 6:31 PMTo: mb12 valtrex Subject: Re: with chelating while on valtrexI'm getting the impression that perhaps you're not interested in the opinion of someone who is not an MD on this matter of chelation, but I would strongly encourage you to research the advice of your doctor. I've read many negative reports from people who have used the kind of chelation protocol you are being advised to use. An every other day dosing of DMSA does not take into account the half life of the chelator. Every other day dosing of vitamins and minerals does not take into account that chelators cannot touch vitamins, that chelation causes oxidative stress, and that the body can only absorb so many vitamins (particularly the water soluble ones) and minerals at once. Again, I would encourage you to read some reports from people who have chelated using protocols similar to the one you're describing before you choose to use this one for your child.Anita > >> > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with> oral> > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son? Also,> my> > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the days> that> > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think> this is> > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is there a> > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your> child? I> > would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You> seem> > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can. By> the> > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying one!!> > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.> >> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

I would say that neither are good. Since this is off-topic for our

group here (chelation schedules, etc) I would encourage you to join

autism mercury http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/

where you can get lots of feedback on this kind of thing. In fact,

I just answered a question very much like this one there. I would

be very happy to provide you with lots of details there :-)

About the candex: I just started using it about a month ago and it

is my very favourite antifungal. Other than the price (here in

Canada lots of $$$) it is pretty much perfect. Easy to dose

(although you need to do it on an empty stomach, it doesn't taste

bad like many of the antifungals). Yeast cannot become tolerant of

it. Works very well.

I hope to see you at autism-mercury. There you'll be able to gather

a great deal of information that will help you make the best

decision for you about chelation.

Anita

> > >

> > > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate

with

> > oral

> > > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your

son?

> Also,

> > my

> > > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on

the

> days

> > that

> > > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you

think

> > this is

> > > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is

> there a

> > > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with

your

> > child? I

> > > would love to read all the specific things you did for

him. You

> > seem

> > > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I

can.

> By

> > the

> > > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering

buying

> one!!

> > > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I have a slightly different question. Has anybody done

anitbiotics and valtrex at the same time? We are

battling strep (PANDAS) and need to use antibiotics

for some time. We also want to attach viruses at the

same time (to see whether PANDAS synptoms are gettig

triggered by virus's or bacteria/fungi)

-Kajuk

--- Anita Kugelstadt wrote:

> I would say that neither are good. Since this is

> off-topic for our

> group here (chelation schedules, etc) I would

> encourage you to join

> autism mercury

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/

>

> where you can get lots of feedback on this kind of

> thing. In fact,

> I just answered a question very much like this one

> there. I would

> be very happy to provide you with lots of details

> there :-)

>

> About the candex: I just started using it about a

> month ago and it

> is my very favourite antifungal. Other than the

> price (here in

> Canada lots of $$$) it is pretty much perfect. Easy

> to dose

> (although you need to do it on an empty stomach, it

> doesn't taste

> bad like many of the antifungals). Yeast cannot

> become tolerant of

> it. Works very well.

>

> I hope to see you at autism-mercury. There you'll

> be able to gather

> a great deal of information that will help you make

> the best

> decision for you about chelation.

>

> Anita

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is

> safe to chelate

> with

> > > oral

> > > > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do

> this with your

> son?

> > Also,

> > > my

> > > > doctor just told me not to give vitamins

> and minerals on

> the

> > days

> > > that

> > > > we are chelating. Only give them on the

> off days. Do you

> think

> > > this is

> > > > to much for their systems? I dont want to

> overload!!!!!Is

> > there a

> > > > place where you have exactly what protocol

> you used with

> your

> > > child? I

> > > > would love to read all the specific things

> you did for

> him. You

> > > seem

> > > > very knowledgeable and I would love to

> learn as much as I

> can.

> > By

> > > the

> > > > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are

> considering

> buying

> > one!!

> > > > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Candex has been really great for us, but follow the manufacturer's

instructions for full benefit. For our son, it is " the anti-yeast "

treatment with best results.

> > >

> > > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with

> > oral

> > > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son?

> Also,

> > my

> > > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the

> days

> > that

> > > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think

> > this is

> > > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is

> there a

> > > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your

> > child? I

> > > would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You

> > seem

> > > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can.

> By

> > the

> > > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying

> one!!

> > > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You may want to also join the chelatekids2 group if you are just getting started

with

metals detox.

As far as yeast there are a number of things you can use. Candex does help

some.

Personally, I've not enjoyed seeing it used because of the diarrhea it causes.

Do you have a DAN! doctor?

- Stan

> > >

> > > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to chelate with

> > oral

> > > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your son?

> Also,

> > my

> > > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on the

> days

> > that

> > > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you think

> > this is

> > > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is

> there a

> > > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with your

> > child? I

> > > would love to read all the specific things you did for him. You

> > seem

> > > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as I can.

> By

> > the

> > > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering buying

> one!!

> > > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi, I have just gotten started with metals detox I couldn't find the

chelatekids2 group. Also, Could you give olive leaf extract while

on Valtrex? Thanks, Pam

> > > >

> > > > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to

chelate with

> > > oral

> > > > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your

son?

> > Also,

> > > my

> > > > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on

the

> > days

> > > that

> > > > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you

think

> > > this is

> > > > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is

> > there a

> > > > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with

your

> > > child? I

> > > > would love to read all the specific things you did for

him. You

> > > seem

> > > > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as

I can.

> > By

> > > the

> > > > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering

buying

> > one!!

> > > > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

It is called " chelatingkids2 " , I think, but IMO, the safest chelating

protocol for our kids is discussed much more on the Autism_Mercury

yahoo listserve. Just my .02.

Anne

> > > > >

> > > > > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to

> chelate with

> > > > oral

> > > > > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your

> son?

> > > Also,

> > > > my

> > > > > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals

on

> the

> > > days

> > > > that

> > > > > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do

you

> think

> > > > this is

> > > > > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!

Is

> > > there a

> > > > > place where you have exactly what protocol you used

with

> your

> > > > child? I

> > > > > would love to read all the specific things you did for

> him. You

> > > > seem

> > > > > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as

> I can.

> > > By

> > > > the

> > > > > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering

> buying

> > > one!!

> > > > > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

You may have already received answers on this:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chelatingkids2/

Also, I don't see a reason you couldn't do OLE with Valtrex but I would NOT do

OLE for the

first couple of months on Valtrex and I would introduce it slowly.

- Stan

> > > > >

> > > > > Stan ( or anyone else), Do you think it is safe to

> chelate with

> > > > oral

> > > > > dmsa while using the valtrex? Did you do this with your

> son?

> > > Also,

> > > > my

> > > > > doctor just told me not to give vitamins and minerals on

> the

> > > days

> > > > that

> > > > > we are chelating. Only give them on the off days. Do you

> think

> > > > this is

> > > > > to much for their systems? I dont want to overload!!!!!Is

> > > there a

> > > > > place where you have exactly what protocol you used with

> your

> > > > child? I

> > > > > would love to read all the specific things you did for

> him. You

> > > > seem

> > > > > very knowledgeable and I would love to learn as much as

> I can.

> > > By

> > > > the

> > > > > way, what is your opinion of hbot? We are considering

> buying

> > > one!!

> > > > > Thanks alot and God Bless!!! R.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >