Guest guest Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Why are you considering a switch? Convenience, or looking for better results? We are on day 1 of our nasal spray. I can't help you out much with experience, but Ian had an awesome day! He even answered with " I love you " after my husband said it first. NEVER has he done that for my husband. Only twice has he done that for me, and only after I said it several times. The response didn't have that *feeling* in it, but the fact that he was busy doing something else, actually listened, and responded immediately is pretty cool! Good luck with your decision. I never did do the shots with my son: husband didn't want to. Pam > > We have been giving the shots since last June and our DAN has > recommended to test the nasal now. I am sure this has been discussed > in the past but I would be grateful if people could tell me how the > experience with the nasal has been. Have the results been different > then the shots ? How long to see a reaction? Any common negatives? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 My guess is that some people will like the spray better. I am one of them. I get more from the spray and use the spray less often. The spray works better than the shots. I suspect that some people will do better on the shots as well. We are learning who responds best to what. Several studies have shown that Nasal Spray is as effective as IV. That's quite a claim. To me, it's more convienent. Easier to pack.. once you learn the administration it is quick and easy. Of course some people prefer a shot to a spray. We've learned that as well. My message would be to try them out and use what works best for you. I have seen less side effects from the spray than the shots. That's an early observation, and time will tell. I also notice the spray works quicker. I've seen results in minutes... literally. But everyone responds differently, so the best way to find out for you is to try them and see what you like better. For me, it's the spray. - Stan > > We have been giving the shots since last June and our DAN has > recommended to test the nasal now. I am sure this has been discussed > in the past but I would be grateful if people could tell me how the > experience with the nasal has been. Have the results been different > then the shots ? How long to see a reaction? Any common negatives? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 The main reason why we are considering the switch is that our DAN wants to know if the response could be even better then the one we have with the shots. Of course it would be more convenient and easier for him in the case he has to take this for the rest of his life..... > > > > We have been giving the shots since last June and our DAN has > > recommended to test the nasal now. I am sure this has been discussed > > in the past but I would be grateful if people could tell me how the > > experience with the nasal has been. Have the results been different > > then the shots ? How long to see a reaction? Any common negatives? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 What about both - like shots once a week (for a slow leeching effect) and nasal in between (for a more immediate short term effect). Has anyone tried this? Re: Nasal x shots The main reason why we are considering the switch is that our DAN wants to know if the response could be even better then the one we have with the shots. Of course it would be more convenient and easier for him in the case he has to take this for the rest of his life.....> >> > We have been giving the shots since last June and our DAN has > > recommended to test the nasal now. I am sure this has been discussed > > in the past but I would be grateful if people could tell me how the > > experience with the nasal has been. Have the results been different > > then the shots ? How long to see a reaction? Any common negatives?> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Well, I was asking based on my experience with other nasal sprays. Afrin for example lasts very short term. I know I may be comparing apples and oranges here, but I would think the same type of absorption would occur. Re: Nasal x shots Hi ,You are assuming that the spray doesn't have a sustained effect. In my opinion that is not the case. Dr. Neubrander and I had a discussion about this. He believes the nasal mucosa may be acting the same way (or possibly better) than sub-q fat at absorbing the spray and then slowly releasing it. Another element that I suspect may be playing a role is the PH balance in the nasal is better than in the sub-q fat. MB12 molecules break down in the presence of acid and our kids typically have high acid from intestinal bacteria and fungus in the gut. I used to do the shots every day and I do the spray every second or third day.That said, I believe there may be value in alternating the shots and the spray but for different reasons.Let us know what you experience.- Stan> > >> > > We have been giving the shots since last June and our DAN has > > > recommended to test the nasal now. I am sure this has been > discussed > > > in the past but I would be grateful if people could tell me how > the > > > experience with the nasal has been. Have the results been > different > > > then the shots ? How long to see a reaction? Any common > negatives?> > >> >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Hi , It seems different, at least in the case of MB12. You probably need a high concentration of Afrin to keep it going (I'm guessing). In the case of MB12, you may only need a little. Either way, as you try the spray compared to the shots, let us know what you observe. Seeing it yourself might change your belief. Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Hi , I think adenosyl would work the same way as methyl (in the shots and the spray). But, it's a good idea to make sure you need adenosyl before jumping in of course. - Stan > > > > > > > > We have been giving the shots since last June and our DAN > has > > > > recommended to test the nasal now. I am sure this has been > > discussed > > > > in the past but I would be grateful if people could tell me > how > > the > > > > experience with the nasal has been. Have the results been > > different > > > > then the shots ? How long to see a reaction? Any common > > negatives? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Wow! Look at the ingredients for Afrin. Thimerasol is used as a preservative. I wouldn't touch it. I hope you have discontinued the Afrin. We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give. — Winston Churchill > Well, I was asking based on my experience with other nasal sprays. > Afrin for example lasts very short term. I know I may be comparing > apples and oranges here, but I would think the same type of absorption > would occur. >  > >> Re: Nasal x shots >> >> Hi , >> >> You are assuming that the spray doesn't have a sustained effect. In >> my opinion that is not >> the case. Dr. Neubrander and I had a discussion about this. He >> believes the nasal mucosa >> may be acting the same way (or possibly better) than sub-q fat at >> absorbing the spray and >> then slowly releasing it. >> >> Another element that I suspect may be playing a role is the PH >> balance in the nasal is >> better than in the sub-q fat. MB12 molecules break down in the >> presence of acid and our >> kids typically have high acid from intestinal bacteria and fungus in >> the gut. >> >> I used to do the shots every day and I do the spray every second or >> third day. >> >> That said, I believe there may be value in alternating the shots and >> the spray but for >> different reasons. >> >> Let us know what you experience. >> >> - Stan >> >> >> >  > > >> >  > > We have been giving the shots since last June and our DAN has >> >  > > recommended to test the nasal now. I am sure this has been >> >  discussed >> >  > > in the past but I would be grateful if people could tell me >> how >> >  the >> >  > > experience with the nasal has been. Have the results been >> >  different >> >  > > then the shots ? How long to see a reaction? Any common >> >  negatives? >> >  > > >> >  > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Stan-- Thanks for the concern. My son's doc wants him to stay on the adenosyl with the methyl (at least for now). I spoke with our friends at Coastal. The pharmacist thought just as you said...it should work as well as, if not better than, the shots. I just need to ask my son's doc for a prescription. > > > > > > > > > > We have been giving the shots since last June and our DAN > > has > > > > > recommended to test the nasal now. I am sure this has been > > > discussed > > > > > in the past but I would be grateful if people could tell > me > > how > > > the > > > > > experience with the nasal has been. Have the results been > > > different > > > > > then the shots ? How long to see a reaction? Any common > > > negatives? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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