Question

[Guest guest]

At 00:21 30.04.99 -0000, you wrote:

>From: skinzzy@...

>

>Hello. I have a question relating to pressure treated lumber and

neurological problems. I was recently diagnosed with ms. Two years ago we

built a new home with a pressure treated lumber foundation. I am trying to

find out if the toxins leaking from the foundation could have contributed

to the neurological problems I have been having.

>

>Does anyone have any facts that are medically supported relating to this?

>Thanks for your help.

>Kim

Hello Kim,

I got interested by your letter, so I decided to investigate and find out

what is " pressure treated lumber foundation " .

So, I copied those words " pressure treated lumber foundation " in search

engine, and I got this site:

http://www.hickson.com/permanent.html

On one place it is written:

" The PWF uses wood that is pressure-treated with CCA preservative, such as

the Wolman® brand, to protect the wood against decay fungi and termites. "

So, now i understand what " pressure treated lumber foundation " means.

They use Pesticides (fungicidies and insecticides) in one word, poisons

that can kill, to preserv wood.

If you place and expose wood lumbers inside a chamber filled up with a

mixture of those toxins, and you increase presssure, you will press a lot

of those toxins inside lumbers.

Now, we can try to immagine what happen with toxins, when this wood is used

inside house.

Natural wood, timber, takes 10 -20 years to totally dry, too looses all

its water and most of its essential oils, tho those compounds have not been

pressed inside wood by pressure.

I am guessing that poisons , that have been pressed into lumber will also

leak slowly into environment,(in this case, your home).

I doubdt that there is any study that have been investigating that, because

those who have money and power to press investigation-study are usually not

interested.

I guess, you and other people are the " experimental animals " .

We are all " experimental animals " inside our houses build from artificial

and cheap materials, insulated with mineral and glass wool fibers (it is

known carcinogen), and painted with cheap paints containing hundreds of

known carcinogens:

http://home.sol.no/~dusan/toxins_carcinogens.html

Try to find as many people as possible who are living in this kind of

house, and try to find if there is a common list of symproms or syndrom

that is occuring since people moved inn.

And, do not believe that houses that does not have " pressure treated lumber

foundation " are much better, because , thre are thousands of toxins that

are used today in making building materials and paints.

It is known that all heated (backed) materials (bricks,.. ) gives away a

lot of radiaoactiv gasses.

But, there is one cheap thing that one can do to ballance it:

Take care what you eat, and keep your bowel clean.

If the only toxins that you get are coming from the air, it is most likely

that you will not have any reacton.

An average, 95% of all the toxins that we get comes from the foods, teeth

and from our bowel, thanks to poor digestion.

So, there are cheaper things to do then to build a new house.

Dusan Stojkovic

Norway

[Guest guest]

-- I know nothing about the stiff neck, but want to encourage

you to call the doc!! A change in your mom after introducing new

meds should be reported immediately. A good doc won't mind you

calling. Check to see if your doc responds to email -- many docs

like to communicate that way as they can do it on their time. It's

a good way for questions that do not need immediate answer.

Lori

> Hi Everyone,

>

> My mom is really having lots of problems. But I've noticed in the

> last week her neck has gotten very stiff and turns slightly to the

> left and back. She complains that it hurts. Also her eyes are so

> red, especially the left one, it runs and they look so bad. She

> doesn't seem to focus good on anything. I don't know, she can't

> really tell me.

>

> She has been on the Seroquel 25 mg (2 x day) and Trazodone 50 mg

(1-3

> at bedtime) for one week today. Could this new meds cause this

> problem, because I don't remember her neck being this stiff, it

looks

> like it hurts very badly. I don't want the doctor thinking I call

for

> every little thing, but this is all so new, I don't know.

>

> Anyone have a problem with this??

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Hi, my name is Shirley I have been a member since January 2002. My

Mom was diagnosed at that time with LBD. Her main #1 problem was that

her neck was starting to go down (stuck in a downward position), she

could only hold it up for a very short period of time and it hurt. It

eventually became stiffer and stiffer. It looked like the bone was

sticking out in the back of her neck. Unfortunately it only got worse

which made it difficult for her to see where she was going, gave her

lots of pain etc. It only got worse. She died this year in December

(not because of her neck so please don't worry there) but due to the

Nursing homes total neglect which I won't go into now, there is a

lawsuit pending.

Anyway I haven't been on here much this last year but I check back

every now and then and couldn't help but notice your post. So I would

like to offer a few suggestions for her comfort and share what I know.

First the redness of the eyes in Mom's case I know at times got very

red and swollen from what I see was due to her head being stuck down

for long periods, she also had eye infections the last year so bad

that they were very puffy filled with fluid. It was very hard to put

any eyedrops or medicine in her eyes because her head was not able to

go back far enough, it made eye exams very difficult but somehow a

few doctors managed. You have to really explain the neck thing to

them, most eye doctors have no idea what the problem is and think up

a variety of possibilities but really don't have many real answers.

I would definitely get her eyes checked for infection and if your

mom's head is difficult to position have the doctor administer the

first dose for you so he can see what your up against and possibly

come up with a better solution for you. Make sure your Mom isn't

rubbing her eyes a lot and that her hands are clean if she does.

Patients with LBD do have eye problems and unfortunately their vision

does suffer, sometimes they can see pretty well sometimes not. Their

depth perception is very bad.

As for the stiffness of the neck for a long time Mom would use a neck

pillow type thing that was filled with rice that you would heat up in

the microwave, you could usually find them at the Mall where they

have those little stands where they sell specialty gifts. Most of

them are scented nowadays and smell horrible try to find one that is

not scented. It was Mom's only form of relief, sometimes we had to do

it off and on all day but it really helped the stiffness.Looking back

at pictures the other day I noticed mom wearing her collar a lot.

Definitely keep up with the neck massages as much as possible it will

help delay it getting worse and brought tremendous relief. It was

really only one the the things we could do to make her life happy.

We would spend hours nightly adjusting her pillow to the slightest

degree over and over again. There was also a cervical collar I can't

remember what it was called but it had a chin thing that helped lift

her chin up. Her neck was so bad by the time she got it she was

unable to wear it. If you think this would work and she could manage

wearing it let me know and I will look it up to see what it was

called.

If you would refer to post #9127 and a couple of previous and future

ones around that time you will see a post from my mom's neurologist

DR Gibbs. He has been looking into this since Oct 2002 and hopefully

by now he may have more information. I know during mom's last months

he started giving Botox injections in her neck which may have helped

if it was started earlier. I am sure he would correspond with your

mom's neurologist and perhaps they will both benefit from comparisons.

I'm sorry I know this post is a bit jumbled I only had 4 hours sleep

last night and I can't really concentrate so hopefully I am making

sense.

Good luck please try the rice collar or some form of heat it should

work wonders and please keep up the massages as much as possible, it

is about all that helps. Take care, Shirley

> Hi Everyone,

>

> My mom is really having lots of problems. But I've noticed in the

> last week her neck has gotten very stiff and turns slightly to the

> left and back. She complains that it hurts. Also her eyes are so

> red, especially the left one, it runs and they look so bad. She

> doesn't seem to focus good on anything. I don't know, she can't

> really tell me.

>

> She has been on the Seroquel 25 mg (2 x day) and Trazodone 50 mg (1-

3

> at bedtime) for one week today. Could this new meds cause this

> problem, because I don't remember her neck being this stiff, it

looks

> like it hurts very badly. I don't want the doctor thinking I call

for

> every little thing, but this is all so new, I don't know.

>

> Anyone have a problem with this??

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

-- you may also want to ask the doc for a script for physical

therapy -- medicare will pay for 8-16 weeks of home visits. Lori

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > My mom is really having lots of problems. But I've noticed in

the

> > last week her neck has gotten very stiff and turns slightly to

the

> > left and back. She complains that it hurts. Also her eyes are

so

> > red, especially the left one, it runs and they look so bad. She

> > doesn't seem to focus good on anything. I don't know, she can't

> > really tell me.

> >

> > She has been on the Seroquel 25 mg (2 x day) and Trazodone 50 mg

(1-

> 3

> > at bedtime) for one week today. Could this new meds cause this

> > problem, because I don't remember her neck being this stiff, it

> looks

> > like it hurts very badly. I don't want the doctor thinking I

call

> for

> > every little thing, but this is all so new, I don't know.

> >

> > Anyone have a problem with this??

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Gerry:

I read somewhere to be vey careful with cold medicines and LBD. Right

at the moment, I can't remember where. Could have been one of the

links in LBDcaregivers.

I remember having humidy prescibed for my children when they were

wheezing. I remember sitting in the bathroom with my daughter and the

steaming shower running while we sat on the toilet. We also used a

cool mist humidifier. Just a thought.

--- Gerry Deverell wrote:

---------------------------------

My Dad has some wheezing in his right lung for which he is going to

be placed on antibioatics. The Hospice nurse also suggested

Robitussin. I just waated to make sure that it is not contraindicated

with LBD. I thought that I read it should not be given with Parkinson.

Does any one know or has anyone had any experience with giving this

cough med?

Thanks,

Gerry

[Guest guest]

Hi Gerry,

Mom had a bad cold last winter and we gave her Robitussin which she did

very well on. I actually got the info that robi was safe from this

site.

Courage

Gerry Deverell wrote:

> My Dad has some wheezing in his right lung for which he is going to

> be placed on antibioatics. The Hospice nurse also suggested

> Robitussin. I just waated to make sure that it is not contraindicated

> with LBD. I thought that I read it should not be given with

> Parkinson. Does any one know or has anyone had any experience with

> giving this cough med?

> Thanks,

> Gerry

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi this is Bettie Harvey,

I was told not to give Harv anything that had an antihistamine and

that included tylenol PM because it contains benadril.

Harv took it one time before we knew about a reaction with LBD

patients and boy did he have a hard time comming out of it. He just

took one!

We can only give him tylenol with nothing in it. His medical Doctor

did say he could take Robitussin with out anything else in it. No

decongestants etc.

Hope that helped,

Bettie

-- In LBDcaregivers , " Tom Guggenbiller " <tgug@e...>

wrote:

> We can not give my mother robitussin or even sudafed.....it causes

the LBD symptoms to worsen in her till it was out of her system.

> Question

>

>

> My Dad has some wheezing in his right lung for which he is

going to be placed on antibioatics. The Hospice nurse also

suggested Robitussin. I just waated to make sure that it is not

contraindicated with LBD. I thought that I read it should not be

given with Parkinson. Does any one know or has anyone had any

experience with giving this cough med?

> Thanks,

> Gerry

>

>

[Guest guest]

How horrifying. Your poor stepson. How terribly sad!

Thank you, I wish the same.

My point is always " do what is in the child's best interests. " Who cares who does it. Just do what is best for them. The child will know, that's the only person that counts anyways. Don't play games on children's time or lives. KWIM?

Ah but this is another topic. I'm glad yours turned around. Sadly I've seen whereby they don't change until the child is an adult. Then the child doesn't want anything to do with them due to not being cared for.

I keep the faith and prayers up. Along with doing what is best for our child on my time. I too hope that " they will come around " one day. Thanks for the good wishes.

Reply-To: miralax

Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:03:35 -0700 (PDT)

To: miralax

Subject: Re: Re: question

That reminds me of how my husband's ex would give my younger stepson the things he is most allergic to, then complain about his behavior (this was especially the case with dairy - he would get beligerent and violent). Even after we spent over $5k out of pocket to treat the allergies. And she would stop the sublingual drops whenever he was there (at this point he was living with us; he eventually moved back in with her).

Then years later all of a sudden we got a call from the allergist's office confirming an appointment SHE made.

Sometimes we (meaning " they " ) wake up too damn late. I hope yours wake up sooner.

[Guest guest]

When I get sick, it tends to be a chest cold, bronchitis, or a sinus infection.

= M-F.

----- Original Message -----

From: a Pereira

>Just going out on a limb here..... has anyone experienced recurrent sinus infections? Or does anyone recall the start of 4S symptons having followed a series of sinus infections?

>Thanks

[Guest guest]

I have a question regarding ARD process.

What rights do I have as a parent if I don’t agree with placement for my son?

My son is 16 and in the 9th

grade. The school wants to send him to another high school with 8 weeks left in

the school year. He has issues with behavior and the transition to another

school site I feel will do more harm then good.

Thanks so much

Tammy