TERM DE>EN Schürzen-, Nacken- und Überkopfgriff

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Hello MTers,

A report describing a patient's ability to move freely following a fracture

includes the expression " Schürzen-, Nacken- und Überkopfgriff sind

durchführbar " . It's clear that these refer to specific arm movements -

I've found " Retroversion des Oberarmes " as a definition of the first - but

is there a " group " expression covering all three in English to match the

German structure?

Any thoughts appreciated, as always.

Purdy

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Did you not get any answers on that one?

I have not researched anything now and could not help you on the first term

but for the other two: couldnt you just use: movements of arm to touch back

of neck (with the hand/ or to grab (?) back of neck..) and to reach above

the head are possible...?? there might be better expressions out there, I

just noticed that at least on MT there were no answers, I wanted to research

and answer earlier today only but its been a crazy day once more so this is

just an attempt (from a native German speaker)

good luck

Isabelle

TERM DE>EN Schürzen-, Nacken- und Überkopfgriff

Hello MTers,

A report describing a patient's ability to move freely following a fracture

includes the expression " Schürzen-, Nacken- und Überkopfgriff sind

durchführbar " . It's clear that these refer to specific arm movements -

I've found " Retroversion des Oberarmes " as a definition of the first - but

is there a " group " expression covering all three in English to match the

German structure?

Any thoughts appreciated, as always.

Purdy

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[Guest guest]

Hi Isabelle,

Thanks for your message; I would have thought that these referred simply to

ability to touch the buttock area and neck and reach above the head, but it

seems that there's more to it than that. From the PT_ list I have got

" lift-off test " for Schürzengriff, while Nackengriff seems to be a deep

squat with the hands on the neck, but I am still drawing a blank on

Überkopfgriff. Since the definitions/translations don't lend themselves to

easy derivation from the German terms, I'm hesitant to hazard a paraphrase

of my own without confirmation. If anyone's able to offer anything further

on the last of these terms, that would be great.

At 09:46 12/06/03, Ipaquet wrote...

>Did you not get any answers on that one?

>I have not researched anything now and could not help you on the first term

>but for the other two: couldnt you just use: movements of arm to touch back

>of neck (with the hand/ or to grab (?) back of neck..) and to reach above

>the head are possible...?? there might be better expressions out there, I

>just noticed that at least on MT there were no answers, I wanted to research

>and answer earlier today only but its been a crazy day once more so this is

>just an attempt (from a native German speaker)

Purdy

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