Re: Off topic - Desperate and need help on SCD. Considering giving up.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

This sounds like a good time for testing... and maybe another look at

antifungals. The

way the intro diet was created was based on the low odds of a reactive food

(based on my

experience), but maybe there is a reactive food in there in your child's case...

it's not

beyond possibility. In your present diet eggs, and butternut (squash) are

concerns to me,

but before you do any more work since you're seemingly exhausted from working on

diet,

I would do an IGG Food Allergy Test (Great Plains, DD, GS) and an OATs test and

a Stool

Analysis and see what bugs you have an what antifungals would work. If you can

only

afford one test I would do the IGG Food, two tests the IGG Food and OATS.

I've always found something from these tests that turned out to be meaningful.

Then I would rotate to another antifungal if you haven't been on diflucan or

amphotericn B

I would try that.

Lastly, you may want to consider getting in line for a scope from Krigsmans or

Thoughtful

House if your child had the MMR.

These are just the thoughts off the top of my head. I'm always concerned when

people

feel they are moving in the wrong direction and about to give up. I have many

questions

about your child, about the regression (or not), about your vaccinations, about

your

symptoms, about his tongue (white?), his face (red?), his stims, viral levels,

other tests

your DAN! may have run, etc etc. so if you feel like you would like to take the

time to let us

know that may help people to provide a response.

The thing to focus on is that there are logical answers if you look close

enough. I feel your

frustration and I hope you are able to look more closely. Ultimately,

everything you do...

even give up.... will net you some data... going back on the diet that was

working better

will tell you if something in the present diet was reactive... but testing is

the best way...

doing it logically and methodically, but yes, that does require energy which you

seem

short on right now. I know what that's like. I wish I was able to send you a

few minutes of

vacation to catch your breath.

- Stan

>

> Hi,

>

> My daughter has been on SCD since Nov 26. We started with the Intro

> Diet. At the beginning, she was very gassy, stimming increased a lot,

> her tummy got more bloated, tantrum increased a lot and she was always

> hungry.

>

> Her current food list includes: eggs, carrots, chicken, pear sauce,

> pear juice, butternut squash, zucchini.

> Her supplements include: B6 (Supernutera), cod liver oil (Child

> Life), Vitamin C (Whole foods), calcium (Kirkman), probiotics

> (kirkman), MB12 shots.

> Other medication includes: Singulair granules.

>

> After a month, her gassiness has gone down some. She doesn't fart much

> now although she still burps quite a bit. Her tantrum has also gone

> down slightly but is still very high.

>

> However, her self stimming, the size of her belly, her defiance and

> her hunger is still very bad. She was a really sweet girl and was

> improving well BEFORE SCD. With her self stimming so high, she's much

> more autistic on SCD then she ever was!

>

> Does anyone know how long it takes stimming or size of belly or

> tantrum to go down? Even her therapist was disappointed and commented

> that this diet is messing things up.

>

> We are very disappointed and depressed and seriously considering

> giving up. She was doing so well before! We are seeing lots of bad

> things with this diet and NOT A SINGLE GOOD THING. Will it ever get

> better?

>

> Would appreciate ANY advices and feedback from those who have gone

> through this.

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

If any food shows up in the poop it's probably not a good idea to eat it. I

would also

consider digestive enzymes.

Disregard my comment about butternut squash. It's fine.

There is no reason IMO not try an antifungal asap based on these gut symptoms.

I would

also try a probiotic (at different times) and digestive enzymes a half hour

before eating.

Regarding a scope, if you can't get the gut under control, it's not a bad idea.

It's not a bad

idea to get in line since there is a waiting list. By the time it's your turn,

you might have it

resolved and choose to cancel, but there is nothing wrong with getting in line.

Eggs are a common gut leakage offender. We are quite programmed by the media

and

society that we need to have " breakfast foods " in the morning. My son has fresh

spinach

and pear juice mix (from a Jack LaLane juicer - Costco $99.00) and then a turkey

burger

patty (fresh ground) and a walnut muffin (just ground walnut and honey baked).

My son

was reactive to almonds but was clear on walnuts. I've yet to see a child that

was reactive

to walnuts, but I would guess there is a minority of children who might.

Eggs show up on many IGG Food Allergy tests in our kids... and at very high

levels. It's a

shame, but it can be a difficult protein to digest. It's a marker for me as

well and I was

eating them every day. Once I took them out and reintroduced them a couple

weeks later I

realized it was giving me a constant low level headache. Great for the diet,

bad for the

head sometimes.

Just based on what you're saying about eggs, I would do an IGG Food Allergy Test

and no,

I would not introduce foods just for the sake of seeing if they leak on the

test. I don't

think it's worth doing that.

If it were me, I would take the eggs out right now. I would also do a trial of

MB12 Nasal

Spray if you haven't done that yet. The intestines need MB12 and if you are

depleted the

microvilli will not be able to produce digestive enzymes.

- Stan

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > My daughter has been on SCD since Nov 26. We started with the

> Intro

> > > Diet. At the beginning, she was very gassy, stimming increased a

> lot,

> > > her tummy got more bloated, tantrum increased a lot and she was

> always

> > > hungry.

> > >

> > > Her current food list includes: eggs, carrots, chicken, pear

> sauce,

> > > pear juice, butternut squash, zucchini.

> > > Her supplements include: B6 (Supernutera), cod liver oil (Child

> > > Life), Vitamin C (Whole foods), calcium (Kirkman), probiotics

> > > (kirkman), MB12 shots.

> > > Other medication includes: Singulair granules.

> > >

> > > After a month, her gassiness has gone down some. She doesn't fart

> much

> > > now although she still burps quite a bit. Her tantrum has also

> gone

> > > down slightly but is still very high.

> > >

> > > However, her self stimming, the size of her belly, her defiance

> and

> > > her hunger is still very bad. She was a really sweet girl and was

> > > improving well BEFORE SCD. With her self stimming so high, she's

> much

> > > more autistic on SCD then she ever was!

> > >

> > > Does anyone know how long it takes stimming or size of belly or

> > > tantrum to go down? Even her therapist was disappointed and

> commented

> > > that this diet is messing things up.

> > >

> > > We are very disappointed and depressed and seriously considering

> > > giving up. She was doing so well before! We are seeing lots of

> bad

> > > things with this diet and NOT A SINGLE GOOD THING. Will it ever

> get

> > > better?

> > >

> > > Would appreciate ANY advices and feedback from those who have gone

> > > through this.

> > >

> > > Thank you in advance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

Thanks once again for replying.

Base on our discussion, I am going to implement the following:

1. Remove carrot from her diet

2. Remove egg from her diet

3. Introduce enzyme. Probably Candidase.

4. Get in line for the scope at Thoughtful house.

Since I have yet to introduce anything except boiled food, I will

have to give her soup as breakfast. May be later I will try patties.

She's already drinking fresh squeeze pear juice for breakfast (Jack

LaLane juicer). I did not add vegetables to the juice. Do you think

it is safe to add raw vegetables to her juice while she's having gut

issues? I have yet to introduce nuts. Is it safe to introduce nuts

while she's having bloated tummy and other guts problem?

I understand that antiviral drugs need a prescription. We won't see

out DAN! doctor until much later and I'm not sure if our pediatician

will prescribe an antiviral. Is there any safe, off the counter

antiviral?

She's already on MB12 shots. Probably that contributed to her high

tantrum as well.

I forgot to mention that the dark circles below her eyes got worse

AFTER she got on SCD. Her tummy also got bigger. In her BTVC book,

Elaine mentioned that symptoms can get worse before getting better.

But it has been 5 weeks and I'm not seeing it getting better.

Thank you.

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > My daughter has been on SCD since Nov 26. We started with the

> > Intro

> > > > Diet. At the beginning, she was very gassy, stimming

increased a

> > lot,

> > > > her tummy got more bloated, tantrum increased a lot and she

was

> > always

> > > > hungry.

> > > >

> > > > Her current food list includes: eggs, carrots, chicken, pear

> > sauce,

> > > > pear juice, butternut squash, zucchini.

> > > > Her supplements include: B6 (Supernutera), cod liver oil

(Child

> > > > Life), Vitamin C (Whole foods), calcium (Kirkman), probiotics

> > > > (kirkman), MB12 shots.

> > > > Other medication includes: Singulair granules.

> > > >

> > > > After a month, her gassiness has gone down some. She doesn't

fart

> > much

> > > > now although she still burps quite a bit. Her tantrum has

also

> > gone

> > > > down slightly but is still very high.

> > > >

> > > > However, her self stimming, the size of her belly, her

defiance

> > and

> > > > her hunger is still very bad. She was a really sweet girl and

was

> > > > improving well BEFORE SCD. With her self stimming so high,

she's

> > much

> > > > more autistic on SCD then she ever was!

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know how long it takes stimming or size of belly

or

> > > > tantrum to go down? Even her therapist was disappointed and

> > commented

> > > > that this diet is messing things up.

> > > >

> > > > We are very disappointed and depressed and seriously

considering

> > > > giving up. She was doing so well before! We are seeing lots

of

> > bad

> > > > things with this diet and NOT A SINGLE GOOD THING. Will it

ever

> > get

> > > > better?

> > > >

> > > > Would appreciate ANY advices and feedback from those who have

gone

> > > > through this.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you in advance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan - I have been baking it. Is there another way to cook it

which is easier/better on the digestive system?

Thanks for your help and time.

Martha

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > My daughter has been on SCD since Nov 26. We started with

the

> > Intro

> > > > Diet. At the beginning, she was very gassy, stimming

increased a

> > lot,

> > > > her tummy got more bloated, tantrum increased a lot and she

was

> > always

> > > > hungry.

> > > >

> > > > Her current food list includes: eggs, carrots, chicken, pear

> > sauce,

> > > > pear juice, butternut squash, zucchini.

> > > > Her supplements include: B6 (Supernutera), cod liver oil

(Child

> > > > Life), Vitamin C (Whole foods), calcium (Kirkman),

probiotics

> > > > (kirkman), MB12 shots.

> > > > Other medication includes: Singulair granules.

> > > >

> > > > After a month, her gassiness has gone down some. She doesn't

> > fart much

> > > > now although she still burps quite a bit. Her tantrum has

also

> > gone

> > > > down slightly but is still very high.

> > > >

> > > > However, her self stimming, the size of her belly, her

defiance

> > and

> > > > her hunger is still very bad. She was a really sweet girl

and

> > was

> > > > improving well BEFORE SCD. With her self stimming so high,

she's

> > much

> > > > more autistic on SCD then she ever was!

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know how long it takes stimming or size of belly

or

> > > > tantrum to go down? Even her therapist was disappointed and

> > commented

> > > > that this diet is messing things up.

> > > >

> > > > We are very disappointed and depressed and seriously

considering

> > > > giving up. She was doing so well before! We are seeing lots

of

> > bad

> > > > things with this diet and NOT A SINGLE GOOD THING. Will it

ever

> > get

> > > > better?

> > > >

> > > > Would appreciate ANY advices and feedback from those who

have

> > gone

> > > > through this.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you in advance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That's a great action plan, and you're a juicer... great.

You may want to look the Houstin line of digestive enzymes. Raw veggies

(green), starting

a little at a time, is usually fine. Spinach is my favorate to mix in. Start

slowly. As you

know, a little juice does a long way on vitamins.

Nuts like almonds and walnuts are typically fine once you do an IGG Food Allergy

test.

They are not in my starter diet, but once you get your child tested I think they

are an

important addition. I also put a little walnut milk (which is just fortified

walnut - Whole

Foods) in the juice. It gives it a whipped consistency and there's calcium in

there as well.

About the circles, can you give us a list of foods your child typically eats and

we can see if

there is anything else that might be causing the leakage.

- Stan

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > My daughter has been on SCD since Nov 26. We started with the

> > > Intro

> > > > > Diet. At the beginning, she was very gassy, stimming

> increased a

> > > lot,

> > > > > her tummy got more bloated, tantrum increased a lot and she

> was

> > > always

> > > > > hungry.

> > > > >

> > > > > Her current food list includes: eggs, carrots, chicken, pear

> > > sauce,

> > > > > pear juice, butternut squash, zucchini.

> > > > > Her supplements include: B6 (Supernutera), cod liver oil

> (Child

> > > > > Life), Vitamin C (Whole foods), calcium (Kirkman), probiotics

> > > > > (kirkman), MB12 shots.

> > > > > Other medication includes: Singulair granules.

> > > > >

> > > > > After a month, her gassiness has gone down some. She doesn't

> fart

> > > much

> > > > > now although she still burps quite a bit. Her tantrum has

> also

> > > gone

> > > > > down slightly but is still very high.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, her self stimming, the size of her belly, her

> defiance

> > > and

> > > > > her hunger is still very bad. She was a really sweet girl and

> was

> > > > > improving well BEFORE SCD. With her self stimming so high,

> she's

> > > much

> > > > > more autistic on SCD then she ever was!

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anyone know how long it takes stimming or size of belly

> or

> > > > > tantrum to go down? Even her therapist was disappointed and

> > > commented

> > > > > that this diet is messing things up.

> > > > >

> > > > > We are very disappointed and depressed and seriously

> considering

> > > > > giving up. She was doing so well before! We are seeing lots

> of

> > > bad

> > > > > things with this diet and NOT A SINGLE GOOD THING. Will it

> ever

> > > get

> > > > > better?

> > > > >

> > > > > Would appreciate ANY advices and feedback from those who have

> gone

> > > > > through this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you in advance.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Stan,

Thanks again for the reply.

Could you elaborate on " stabilize the gut " ?

When would you consider it to be stabilized? No gas? Tummy size down?

Lower tantrum?

Should I wait till then to introduce new food?

Regarding juicing, a cancer survivor once told me that green kale,

parsley, spinach are very good for health. I tried kale once and it

actually taste reasonably nice. You might want to try that.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My daughter has been on SCD since Nov 26. We started

with

> > the

> > > > > > Intro

> > > > > > > > Diet. At the beginning, she was very gassy, stimming

> > > > increased a

> > > > > > lot,

> > > > > > > > her tummy got more bloated, tantrum increased a lot

and

> > she

> > > > was

> > > > > > always

> > > > > > > > hungry.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Her current food list includes: eggs, carrots,

chicken,

> > pear

> > > > > > sauce,

> > > > > > > > pear juice, butternut squash, zucchini.

> > > > > > > > Her supplements include: B6 (Supernutera), cod liver

oil

> > > > (Child

> > > > > > > > Life), Vitamin C (Whole foods), calcium (Kirkman),

> > probiotics

> > > > > > > > (kirkman), MB12 shots.

> > > > > > > > Other medication includes: Singulair granules.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > After a month, her gassiness has gone down some. She

> > doesn't

> > > > fart

> > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > now although she still burps quite a bit. Her tantrum

has

> > > > also

> > > > > > gone

> > > > > > > > down slightly but is still very high.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > However, her self stimming, the size of her belly,

her

> > > > defiance

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > her hunger is still very bad. She was a really sweet

girl

> > and

> > > > was

> > > > > > > > improving well BEFORE SCD. With her self stimming so

> > high,

> > > > she's

> > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > more autistic on SCD then she ever was!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Does anyone know how long it takes stimming or size

of

> > belly

> > > > or

> > > > > > > > tantrum to go down? Even her therapist was

disappointed

> > and

> > > > > > commented

> > > > > > > > that this diet is messing things up.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > We are very disappointed and depressed and seriously

> > > > considering

> > > > > > > > giving up. She was doing so well before! We are

seeing

> > lots

> > > > of

> > > > > > bad

> > > > > > > > things with this diet and NOT A SINGLE GOOD THING.

Will

> > it

> > > > ever

> > > > > > get

> > > > > > > > better?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Would appreciate ANY advices and feedback from those

who

> > have

> > > > gone

> > > > > > > > through this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you in advance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for the suggestions.

I considered Ethan's gut in good shape when his stool was firm and formed and

you only

had to wipe him once, when his skin color was normal, his eyes weren't dark and

puffy, his

distended stomach was gone, his tongue was clear of the white coating, and his

OATS test

was reasonably normal for bacteria and fungus.

Now stabilized might mean better with antifungals and diet, firmer stool, no

white tongue

and improved levels of bacteria and fungus... meaning you're winning the battle.

Now all that said, my son is off all meds and pretty nerotypical now and I still

keep him on

the diet. I just don't think it's worth the risk at this point to take him off.

- Stan

>

> Stan,

>

> Thanks again for the reply.

>

> Could you elaborate on " stabilize the gut " ?

> When would you consider it to be stabilized? No gas? Tummy size down?

> Lower tantrum?

>

> Should I wait till then to introduce new food?

>

> Regarding juicing, a cancer survivor once told me that green kale,

> parsley, spinach are very good for health. I tried kale once and it

> actually taste reasonably nice. You might want to try that.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

Thanks for the elaboration.

So stabilized includes:

1 good stool

2 good skin color

3 no dark rings below eyes

4 no distended stomach

5 no white tongue

6 OATS test ok

My girl almost always has firm, formed stool. Constipation is her

problem.

Her skin color seems normal.

Eyes are not puffy though has some dark rings below her eyes.

Distended stomach is her biggest problem.

Has no white coating on tongue. Her tongue is a nice, fresh red.

Still awaiting result of OATS test.

That does give me more specific goals.

But it sounds like it'll take a while. I presume that I don't have to

keep her on current chicken and zucchini and pear until then? I will

not even consider giving her illegal food until much much later. But

I will like to increase her repertoire of food.

One update. After taking her off carrots and eggs (3 days now), the

texture of her stool looks better. Smooth and not pebbly as before.

No bits of food either! Thank you! My husband said " thanks to Stan " .

We are rather excited since she has bits of food in her poop for as

long as I can remember. OK, I better not say too much just in case I

jinx myself.

> >

> > Stan,

> >

> > Thanks again for the reply.

> >

> > Could you elaborate on " stabilize the gut " ?

> > When would you consider it to be stabilized? No gas? Tummy size

down?

> > Lower tantrum?

> >

> > Should I wait till then to introduce new food?

> >

> > Regarding juicing, a cancer survivor once told me that green

kale,

> > parsley, spinach are very good for health. I tried kale once and

it

> > actually taste reasonably nice. You might want to try that.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The distended stomach usually means there is some type of fugus or bacterial

element

going on. Quite often an overgrowth will cause a constant gas pressure that

pushes the

intestines out.

Constipation could be many of the same things that cause diarrhea in some

children. It

will be interesting to see if it resolves with the dietary changes. Other

things that may be

worthwhile to try include MB12 and digestive enzymes.

- Stan

>

> Hi Stan,

>

> Thanks for the elaboration.

> So stabilized includes:

> 1 good stool

> 2 good skin color

> 3 no dark rings below eyes

> 4 no distended stomach

> 5 no white tongue

> 6 OATS test ok

>

> My girl almost always has firm, formed stool. Constipation is her

> problem.

> Her skin color seems normal.

> Eyes are not puffy though has some dark rings below her eyes.

> Distended stomach is her biggest problem.

> Has no white coating on tongue. Her tongue is a nice, fresh red.

> Still awaiting result of OATS test.

>

> That does give me more specific goals.

> But it sounds like it'll take a while. I presume that I don't have to

> keep her on current chicken and zucchini and pear until then? I will

> not even consider giving her illegal food until much much later. But

> I will like to increase her repertoire of food.

>

> One update. After taking her off carrots and eggs (3 days now), the

> texture of her stool looks better. Smooth and not pebbly as before.

> No bits of food either! Thank you! My husband said " thanks to Stan " .

> We are rather excited since she has bits of food in her poop for as

> long as I can remember. OK, I better not say too much just in case I

> jinx myself.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

One good news. Her tantrums seems a little better!

Today, the therapist commented that she is performing much better

than a week ago.

I think it is because of taking eggs and carrots out from her diet.

I gave her some butternut squash and she developed a little bit of

rash. I stopped it for a day, then introduced it again and the rash

seems a little worse. I think I'll stop butternut squash for a week

or two then try again. She is currently eating only chicken, zucchini

and pears. Any suggestion on what to introduce next?

She is already on MB12 shots. Has been for about 5 weeks.

Does MB12 have anything to do with fungus, bacterial and consitpation?

I have just started her on Candidase. Hope that will help with yeast.

Considering digestive enzymes. Any recommendation? Houston?

> >

> > Hi Stan,

> >

> > Thanks for the elaboration.

> > So stabilized includes:

> > 1 good stool

> > 2 good skin color

> > 3 no dark rings below eyes

> > 4 no distended stomach

> > 5 no white tongue

> > 6 OATS test ok

> >

> > My girl almost always has firm, formed stool. Constipation is her

> > problem.

> > Her skin color seems normal.

> > Eyes are not puffy though has some dark rings below her eyes.

> > Distended stomach is her biggest problem.

> > Has no white coating on tongue. Her tongue is a nice, fresh red.

> > Still awaiting result of OATS test.

> >

> > That does give me more specific goals.

> > But it sounds like it'll take a while. I presume that I don't

have to

> > keep her on current chicken and zucchini and pear until then? I

will

> > not even consider giving her illegal food until much much later.

But

> > I will like to increase her repertoire of food.

> >

> > One update. After taking her off carrots and eggs (3 days now),

the

> > texture of her stool looks better. Smooth and not pebbly as

before.

> > No bits of food either! Thank you! My husband said " thanks to

Stan " .

> > We are rather excited since she has bits of food in her poop for

as

> > long as I can remember. OK, I better not say too much just in

case I

> > jinx myself.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

When it comes to fungus, I do not mess around. I typically start with

probiotics and an

antifungal right away. I think getting a baseline of functioning based on a

fungal

controlled intestine is important. Then if you move to something natural you

have

something to compare it to. Fungus is a nasty critter for our kids. Fungus

itself is linked

to autism symptoms. Some children have recovered simply from antifungals. It's

really

important to pay attention to fungus. You can't get much done if fungus is a

constant

problem.

I would not reintroduce squash based on two trials and rashes. Even if there

isn't a rash

next time, it doesn't mean it's OK. If you're lucky enough for the response to

be so

significant that you can notice it... a couple of weeks won't change the fact

that there is a

bad response, even if a rash doesn't appear next time. The rash is SIGNIFICANT

sign of an

autoimmune response... if you don't get it next time, maybe it's just not as

significant, but

there is a lot of other tissue in the body that you can't visually see that

could be effected.

Why take the risk?

I would try other green veggies... (consider buying a juicer too... we juice

veggies every

morning now) and other meats.

If you get an IGG Food Allergy test, you'll have more options of foods that

aren't leaking

(and, of course continue NOT to feed foods that create yeast and bacteria like

grains,

starches, etc.) Having an option for nuts will give you many other dietary

choices.

Digestive enzymes are OK, but I strongly suggest considering an antifungal like

dyflucan

or amphateracin B.

- Stan

> > >

> > > Hi Stan,

> > >

> > > Thanks for the elaboration.

> > > So stabilized includes:

> > > 1 good stool

> > > 2 good skin color

> > > 3 no dark rings below eyes

> > > 4 no distended stomach

> > > 5 no white tongue

> > > 6 OATS test ok

> > >

> > > My girl almost always has firm, formed stool. Constipation is her

> > > problem.

> > > Her skin color seems normal.

> > > Eyes are not puffy though has some dark rings below her eyes.

> > > Distended stomach is her biggest problem.

> > > Has no white coating on tongue. Her tongue is a nice, fresh red.

> > > Still awaiting result of OATS test.

> > >

> > > That does give me more specific goals.

> > > But it sounds like it'll take a while. I presume that I don't

> have to

> > > keep her on current chicken and zucchini and pear until then? I

> will

> > > not even consider giving her illegal food until much much later.

> But

> > > I will like to increase her repertoire of food.

> > >

> > > One update. After taking her off carrots and eggs (3 days now),

> the

> > > texture of her stool looks better. Smooth and not pebbly as

> before.

> > > No bits of food either! Thank you! My husband said " thanks to

> Stan " .

> > > We are rather excited since she has bits of food in her poop for

> as

> > > long as I can remember. OK, I better not say too much just in

> case I

> > > jinx myself.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Stan,

She is already on Kirkman probiotics.

Since the test results are not out yet, my Dan! doctor has not

prescribed anything.

I believe my daughter has yeast and bacteria because she has a puffy

tummy and usually lots of gas.

I started her on SCD since Nov 26. So far, not working very well.

Started her on Candidase 4 days ago. Started with 1/2 capsule, twice

a day then proceeded to 1 capsule, twice a day. About 30 minutes to

an hour before food.

She has a rash on the back of her waist that started on Dec 5, after

about 10 days into SCD. It goes away usually after I apply some

diaper rash cream on it. But returns after a few days.

Could the rash be intolerance to food? I am trying to introduce new

food slowly and am not sure if the rash is due to the food I

introduced or due to yeast die-off from the Candidase or the yeast

and bacteria that is already in her.

Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you.

>

> When it comes to fungus, I do not mess around. I typically start

with probiotics and an

> antifungal right away. I think getting a baseline of functioning

based on a fungal

> controlled intestine is important. Then if you move to something

natural you have

> something to compare it to. Fungus is a nasty critter for our

kids. Fungus itself is linked

> to autism symptoms. Some children have recovered simply from

antifungals. It's really

> important to pay attention to fungus. You can't get much done if

fungus is a constant

> problem.

>

> I would not reintroduce squash based on two trials and rashes.

Even if there isn't a rash

> next time, it doesn't mean it's OK. If you're lucky enough for the

response to be so

> significant that you can notice it... a couple of weeks won't

change the fact that there is a

> bad response, even if a rash doesn't appear next time. The rash is

SIGNIFICANT sign of an

> autoimmune response... if you don't get it next time, maybe it's

just not as significant, but

> there is a lot of other tissue in the body that you can't visually

see that could be effected.

> Why take the risk?

>

> I would try other green veggies... (consider buying a juicer too...

we juice veggies every

> morning now) and other meats.

>

> If you get an IGG Food Allergy test, you'll have more options of

foods that aren't leaking

> (and, of course continue NOT to feed foods that create yeast and

bacteria like grains,

> starches, etc.) Having an option for nuts will give you many other

dietary choices.

>

> Digestive enzymes are OK, but I strongly suggest considering an

antifungal like dyflucan

> or amphateracin B.

>

> - Stan

[Guest guest]

Yes, the rash could easily be food or bacteria/fungus related. I would keep

working on the

gut with antifungals, probiotics and remove the IGG Food markers as well.

- Stan

> >

> > When it comes to fungus, I do not mess around. I typically start

> with probiotics and an

> > antifungal right away. I think getting a baseline of functioning

> based on a fungal

> > controlled intestine is important. Then if you move to something

> natural you have

> > something to compare it to. Fungus is a nasty critter for our

> kids. Fungus itself is linked

> > to autism symptoms. Some children have recovered simply from

> antifungals. It's really

> > important to pay attention to fungus. You can't get much done if

> fungus is a constant

> > problem.

> >

> > I would not reintroduce squash based on two trials and rashes.

> Even if there isn't a rash

> > next time, it doesn't mean it's OK. If you're lucky enough for the

> response to be so

> > significant that you can notice it... a couple of weeks won't

> change the fact that there is a

> > bad response, even if a rash doesn't appear next time. The rash is

> SIGNIFICANT sign of an

> > autoimmune response... if you don't get it next time, maybe it's

> just not as significant, but

> > there is a lot of other tissue in the body that you can't visually

> see that could be effected.

> > Why take the risk?

> >

> > I would try other green veggies... (consider buying a juicer too...

> we juice veggies every

> > morning now) and other meats.

> >

> > If you get an IGG Food Allergy test, you'll have more options of

> foods that aren't leaking

> > (and, of course continue NOT to feed foods that create yeast and

> bacteria like grains,

> > starches, etc.) Having an option for nuts will give you many other

> dietary choices.

> >

> > Digestive enzymes are OK, but I strongly suggest considering an

> antifungal like dyflucan

> > or amphateracin B.

> >

> > - Stan

>